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The Amnesty Delusion. Leave the Pandering to the Democrats.
National Review ^ | 11/13/2012 | The Editors

Posted on 11/12/2012 6:42:12 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 11/12/2012 6:42:17 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Nominate Marco Rubio. Problem solved. /s


2 posted on 11/12/2012 6:46:10 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: SeekAndFind

I can’t believe that National Review actually published this editorial. They are so much more sensible than the wobbly “conservatives” at The Weakly Standard.


3 posted on 11/12/2012 6:46:51 AM PST by WashingtonSource
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To: WashingtonSource

NR is usually more libertarian.... did reality slap them upside the head?


4 posted on 11/12/2012 6:48:45 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL
NR is usually more libertarian.... did reality slap them upside the head?

NR was strongly opposed to the 2007 GWB/McCain amnesty push.


5 posted on 11/12/2012 6:56:13 AM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Common sense from some part of the Republican establishment? Hard to believe after so much nonsense from so many. I wonder if they really mean it?


6 posted on 11/12/2012 6:58:50 AM PST by Will88
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To: Liz; AuntB; Tennessee Nana; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; NFHale; Impy
The amnesty signed into law by the charismatic and popular President Reagan did not bring Hispanic voters into the Republican party; Republican congressional leaders who believe that sending one to President Obama would redound to their benefit are engaged in a defective political calculus. Nor are Hispanics the only group of voters to consider. Blue-collar whites do not appear to have turned out for Republicans in the usual numbers last week. Support for amnesty will not bring them back. If the policy advanced the national interest, that consideration might not matter. It does when supposed political advantage is the argument for the policy.

The Republican party and the conservative movement simply are not constituted for ethnic pandering, and certainly will not out-pander the party of amnesty and affirmative action. Republicans’ challenge is to convince Hispanics, blacks, women, gays, etc., that the policies of the Obama administration are inimical to their interests as Americans, not as members of any collegium of grievance. That they have consistently failed to do so suggests that Republican leadership is at least as much in need of reform as our immigration code.

7 posted on 11/12/2012 7:02:55 AM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Nominate Marco Rubio. Problem solved. /s


You didn’t read the article. Author says GOP should not do Illegal Alien Amnesty. Rubio is pushing DREAM Act Illegal Alien Amnesty....and has “reached out” to the Dems on Amnesty

Rubio is no conservative. Amazes me that people do no research on what these people stand for


8 posted on 11/12/2012 7:03:25 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (Insanity is ever believeing Karl Rove is a conservative)
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To: SeekAndFind
There are many steps we can and should take toward improving our national immigration regime. It should be easier for those with job offers — particularly highly skilled, English-speaking professionals — to gain long-term residency in the United States and to embark on a path to citizenship if they so choose.

Good editorial except for the above statement. We don't need to increase legal immigration from the current 1.2 million a year, most of whom are poor, uneducated, and unskilled. In fact, we should reduce the number to about 300,000 and go to a merit-based system.

Also, we have 23 million Americans looking for fulltime employment. Do we really need to import more foreign workers? There are about 2 million people here now on temporary work visas. Business wants cheap labor, but importing them from abroad hurts American workers.

Our immigration policy is not connected to our job needs. During the decade ending in 2010, which saw the highest number of legal immigrants ever to enter this country, 13.9 million, we saw an actual decrease i the total number of jobs for the same period.

•Since President Obama took office, 67 percent of employment growth has gone to immigrants (legal and illegal).

• There were 1.94 million more immigrants (legal and illegal) working in the third quarter of 2012 than at the start of 2009, when the president took office. This compares to a 938,000 increase for natives over the same time period.

• Most of the immigrant growth in employment was the result of new immigration, rather than immigrants already in the country taking jobs. Some 1.6 million new immigrant workers arrived from abroad since the start of 2009 — we estimate 70 to 90 percent entered legally.

• Immigrants made employment gains across the labor market. In occupations where immigrant gains were the largest, there were 2.2 million unemployed natives.


9 posted on 11/12/2012 7:21:30 AM PST by kabar
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To: SeekAndFind

This is certainly helpful. More please.


10 posted on 11/12/2012 7:25:47 AM PST by Behind the Blue Wall
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To: ilovesarah2012

The Mexicans Come from a Socialist Country they are Democrat Trained expecting Handouts Just like Mexico. They are Not really Practicing Catholics less than 1% go to weekly Mass in mexico City Less than 5 % in the Rest of the Country per 2010 retired Archbishop from Acapulco.

They Go to Guadalupe festivities in December Quincenas and Baptisms but they are Not Catechized so really don’t Practice. They are all Public School educated, Priest in Mexico are not wearing Collars.

It Gets worse Mexicans and central Americans hate Cubans and Pr’s Rubio has No Management experience like Obama and is Too Young.

The Scary part is the Catholic Church through its support system of Mexican Anchor babies is creating a Boom of out of wedlock Moms giving birth without a husband. They are guaranteed a life of Poverty and all the Welfare cost is on US CITIZENS. Don’t believe me my Parish has 25 such women and the Outreach Program does not Catechize these women.They also do not Participate at Sunday mass.

Hispanics are a demographic skewed to Democrats.

Marco Rubio is a Nice Guy but little Track record and what skeletons?


11 posted on 11/12/2012 7:25:47 AM PST by philly-d-kidder (AB-Sheen"The truth is the truth if nobody believes it,a lie is still a lie, everybody believes it")
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To: SeminoleCounty

Hence my /s.


12 posted on 11/12/2012 7:25:47 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: SeekAndFind

Locking the door after the horse got out.

Hispanics stuck Obama right up our backside so Republicans want to reward them for it.

DUH!!!


13 posted on 11/12/2012 7:27:07 AM PST by Venturer
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To: WashingtonSource

This editorial is the truth.

Bush got Hispanics to vote for him because he had been Governor of TX, spoke Spanish and had interacted with them, but also because he was a big spender. Not because he wanted amnesty. The more we bring in, the more they will vote for Democrats. From what I saw Tuesday, it is the same with most recent immigrants.


14 posted on 11/12/2012 7:30:48 AM PST by Belle22
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To: philly-d-kidder
Marco Rubio is a Nice Guy but little Track record and what skeletons?

Not natural born, thus ineligible to be President or Vice President. Also favors amnesty--surprise!

15 posted on 11/12/2012 7:31:04 AM PST by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: SeekAndFind

Amnesy is the fastest way to a third party.


16 posted on 11/12/2012 7:36:10 AM PST by Sybeck1 (When do the vodka rations start?)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Driven by “desperation” to illegally invade out borders?
Oh please——its not “desperation”—it’s pure greed.

HYPHENATE PRICE TAG-—the price we are paying so that vote-crazed Obama and other desperate pols can get re/elected.

NOTE Oftentimes the conniving pols bury these programs within other programs making them difficult to find. Americans have been hammered with govt propaganda that it was the Iraq war and the war on terror that is bankrupting the US. Here’s the real reasons:

1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year by state governments.
Verify at: http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServer?pagename=iic_immigrationissuecenters7fd8

2. $22 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens.Verify at: http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.HTML

3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens. Verify at: http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.HTML

4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary & secondary education for children here illegally and [usually] cannot speak a word of English. Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANscriptS/0604/01/ldt....0.HTML

5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies (or as Terry Anderson says “JACKPOT” babies!)Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANscriptS/0604/01/ldt.01.HTML

6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens. Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/%20TRANscriptS/0604/01/ldt.01.HTML

7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens. Verify at: http://transcripts.CNN..com/TRANscriptS/0604/01/ldt...01.HTML

8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare & socialservices by the American taxpayers. Verify at: http://premium.cnn..com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01..HTML

9. $200 Billion dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens. Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRI

13. In 2006, illegals sent $45 BILLION in remittances to their countries of origin.

Verify at: http://www/..rense.com/general75/niht.htm

14. The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One million sex crimes committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States. Verify at: http: // www.drdsk.com/articleshtml

The total cost is a whopping $ 338.3 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR WHICH WOULD BE ENOUGH TO STIMULATE THE ECONOMY FOR THE CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTRY. Are we THAT Stupid?WAKE UP AMERICA!!!!!!!!!

PLUS!

1. The Earned Income Credit...money people get back on their taxes that they NEVER paid into in the first place! Illegal aliens, most of which pay zero in net taxes, enjoyed $4.2 billion from the Additional Child Tax Credit (ACTC) last year. That’s more than the annual revenue from the selected oil tax deductions and corporate jet deductions combined!Verify: http://www.redstate.com/dhorowitz3/2011/09/02/illegal-aliens-receive-4-2-billion-in-additional-child-tax-credits/

2. The cost of prosecuting and making SURE the “rights” of illegals are protected by US laws madefor US citizens. In 2009, the U.S. Justice Dept filed nearly 92,000 pro-immigrant-related criminal cases in the federal courts. The record-breaker accounted for more than half of all new federal prosecutions, according to data maintained at Syracuse University. Verify at:

http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/search?q=federal+court+cases


17 posted on 11/12/2012 7:37:33 AM PST by Liz ("Come quickly, I'm tasting the stars," Dom Perignon)
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AND THIS----Mexico is pushing north at a furious pace---throwing its "pressure groups" over the border---salivating for reconquista---to takeover the SW--- financing and coaching their fifth column invasion of US borders.

The wailing and whining invaders' propaganda-----"just here for a better life, to do jobs Americanos won't do"---really "gets" bleeding heart sap-happy liberals.....and vote-crazed US politicians.

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RECONQUISTA HISTORY Mexican-born actress DOLORES DEL RIO---was accused of being part of a conspiracy hatched circa 1925 by Mexican nationale Enrique Estrada to takeover Baja California. Enrique Estrada Reynoso (1890–1942) was a Mexican General, politician, and Secretary of Mexican National Defense.

Estrada was arrested in 1926 by the FBI under the leadership of by Special Agent Edwin Atherton. Estrada was heading a large convoy of armored vehicles and armed men east of San Diego, California. He was jailed in the United States for 21 months.

Atherton had been alerted by an informant and a Mexican official residing in Baja, Clifornia (Mexican for "lower California"). Atherton was noted for having worked on the 1924 capture of a neo-revolutionary army of Mexican nationals marching to takeover lower Californa which was under the leadership of General Enrique Estrada. The capture took place at Engineer Springs on the California border.

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WIKI Sometimes informally referred to as Baja California Norte to distinguish it from both the Baja California peninsula, of which it forms the northern half, and Baja California Sur, the adjacent state that covers the southern half of the peninsula. While it is a well-established term for the northern half of the Baja California peninsula, however, its usage would not be correct, because Baja California Norte has never existed as a political designation for a state, territory, district or region.

In 1804, the Spanish colony of California was divided into Alta ("Upper") and Baja ("Lower") California at the line separating the Franciscan missions in the north from the Dominican missions in the south. In 1848, Alta California is annexed by the United States.

The population is composed of Mestizos, mostly immigrants from other parts of Mexico, and, as with most northern Mexican states, a large population of Mexicans of European ancestry, and also a large minority group of East Asian, Middle Eastern and indigenous descent. Additionally, there is a large immigrant population from the United States due to its proximity to San Diego and the cheaper cost of living compared to San Diego.

There is also a significant population from Central America. Many immigrants moved to Baja California for a better quality of life and the number of higher paying jobs in comparison to the rest of Mexico and Latin America.

18 posted on 11/12/2012 7:38:35 AM PST by Liz ("Come quickly, I'm tasting the stars," Dom Perignon)
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To: SeekAndFind

ANNEX MEXICO!!!/sarc


19 posted on 11/12/2012 7:39:54 AM PST by Sybeck1 (When do the vodka rations start?)
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To: WashingtonSource

This editorial is well to the right of Sean Hannity at this point.


20 posted on 11/12/2012 7:40:17 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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