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Are Obama Voters Smarter Than Romney Voters?
Forbes ^ | 11/11/12 | Robert Lichter

Posted on 11/12/2012 8:43:41 AM PST by Clint N. Suhks

A posting on Gizmodo, a technology weblog that is part of the Gawker Media network, has drawn a lot of attention with a post that purports to show that educated people (and by implication smart people) were more likely to vote for Obama. Titled “The Effect of College Education On the Presidential Election“, it consists mainly of a graphic showing that the ten best educated states in the country (as measured by the percentage of residents over age 25 with bachelor degrees) all voted for Obama, while nine of the ten worst educated states voted for Romney.

Gizmodo editor Jose Diaz, who posted this material, comments sarcastically, “Perhaps there’s no correlation. Perhaps it is just a coincidence. Maybe we should ask the next Secretary of Wizardry and Mathemagics, Nate Silver. Whatever the answer is, I just know that I freaking love statistics.”

Unfortunately there’s no magic here, and Diaz is no Nate Silver. This is a classic instance of what statisticians call the ecological fallacy – inferring individual behavior on the basis of aggregated data about a group to which the individual belongs.

As an example of how this works, consider that seven of the ten states with the highest percentage of African Americans voted for Romney, compared to only three that voted for Obama (based on 2009 census data ). Yet no one would infer from this that Romney did unusually well with African American voters.

Similarly, in 2004 the 15 poorest states all voted for George W. Bush, while 9 of the 11 wealthiest states voted for John Kerry. Yet we shouldn’t infer that Democrats are the party of the wealthy; in fact, over 60% of voters nationwide with incomes over $200,000 voted for Bush.

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1 posted on 11/12/2012 8:43:45 AM PST by Clint N. Suhks
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To: Clint N. Suhks

gulible?


2 posted on 11/12/2012 8:45:45 AM PST by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

That’s not fair, since liberalism is faith based without logic and reason. They allow a standard of thinking-if you can call it that- to which they would never apply in their daily decision making.


3 posted on 11/12/2012 8:46:57 AM PST by madameguinot (Our Father's God to Thee, Author of Liberty)
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To: Clint N. Suhks
The average...and median...IQ of Romney voters exceeds those of Osama Obama voters by at least 20 points.
4 posted on 11/12/2012 8:47:04 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Ambassador Stevens Is Dead And The Chevy Volt Is Alive)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

CNN EXIT POLL 2012

College graduate: 53% Romney, 45% Obama
Making $50K -$ 100K: 52% Romney, 47% Obama
Making over $100K: 59% Romney, 40% Obama

Obama voters are neither smarter nor more productive than Romney voters. Obama voters are the moochers, period.

Click exit polls: http://www.cnn.com/election/2012/results/state/OH/president


5 posted on 11/12/2012 8:48:53 AM PST by avacado
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To: Clint N. Suhks

This provides the answer:
http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Obamaphone+lady&mid=306B9F87190C01D53E04306B9F87190C01D53E04&view=detail&FORM=VIRE1


6 posted on 11/12/2012 8:49:02 AM PST by Proud2BeRight
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To: Clint N. Suhks

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Yeah those Obamaphoners and illegals are just hugely smarter than the rest of us

Sheesh . . . what idiots in “JournOlism”


7 posted on 11/12/2012 8:49:19 AM PST by A_Former_Democrat
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To: Clint N. Suhks

No.

If they were smarter, they wouldn’t be 0bama voters.

Just because they got a degree in “blahblahblah Studies” doesn’t make them smarter.


8 posted on 11/12/2012 8:49:46 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

I am pretty sure the obamaphone lady has PHD.


9 posted on 11/12/2012 8:49:48 AM PST by Perdogg (Rep. Tom McClintock (R-CA4) for President 2016)
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To: madameguinot
That’s not fair, since liberalism is faith based without logic and reason

The MSM and leftist say the same thing about the right with this thought:

That’s not fair, since God/Religion is faith based without logic and reason.

Both sides believe the other is stupid. Get over it.

10 posted on 11/12/2012 8:51:03 AM PST by deadrock
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To: Clint N. Suhks

yea course they;re smarted, they put our side on the defense, they know our side has no balls thus they push their radical agenda and rig elections and they’re much smarter about doing election fraud.

our side is smarter on the issues and common sense, our side knows and understands what is going on.

Their side the average Dem voter is abotu as smart a a goldfish with a mental disease


11 posted on 11/12/2012 8:51:56 AM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Clint N. Suhks
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12 posted on 11/12/2012 8:51:59 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

There is a difference between being educated and being intelligent just as there is a difference between intelligent and wise. Every single Obama voter is educated beyond their intelligence (educated morons), doesn’t matter if its 5th grade or post grad. Beyond that there are no wise people voting for democrats.


13 posted on 11/12/2012 8:52:09 AM PST by Breto (The Establishment party is killing our country)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

I’d like to see the chart graph for the number of high school drop outs that voted for Obama.


14 posted on 11/12/2012 8:52:17 AM PST by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

MERRY CHRISTMAS...MY FIRST CARD OF THE YEAR..
Christmas
I love Christmas lights. They remind me of the people who voted for Obama.
They all hang together; half of them don’t work, and the ones that do,
aren’t all that bright.
For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not
understand, no explanation is possible.


15 posted on 11/12/2012 8:52:47 AM PST by madameguinot (Our Father's God to Thee, Author of Liberty)
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To: Clint N. Suhks
"A man's admiration for absolute government is proportionate to the contempt he feels for those around him." -- Alexis de Tocqueville
16 posted on 11/12/2012 8:52:49 AM PST by Baynative
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To: Clint N. Suhks

No.


17 posted on 11/12/2012 8:53:47 AM PST by TXBlair (What the crap is wrong with you, America???)
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To: DEADROCK

We spend way too much time navel gazing over what the media says about us and not enough time acting.


18 posted on 11/12/2012 8:55:30 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Clint N. Suhks
......Titled “The Effect of College Education On the Presidential Election“, it consists mainly of a graphic showing that the ten best educated Indoctrinated states in the country (as measured by the percentage of residents over age 25 with bachelor degrees) all voted for Obama, while nine of the ten worst educatedindoctrinated states voted for Romney.

Who is really smarter? Those who wish for someone else to care for them because they're too incompetent to care for themselves, or those who are self accountable and self regulating?

It depends on the meaning of "educated", the same way Clinton debated the meaning of the word "Is."

19 posted on 11/12/2012 8:57:13 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Clint N. Suhks
Proof:

Obama phones

20 posted on 11/12/2012 8:57:48 AM PST by Cincinatus (Omnia relinquit servare Rempublicam)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

Obama voters become brilliant, intellectual geniuses the very second they pull the lever for the messiah.

It’s true because the press and the school systems have said so.

IMHO


21 posted on 11/12/2012 8:58:57 AM PST by ripley
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To: DEADROCK

No, the existence of God is logical. Ipsum esse.


22 posted on 11/12/2012 8:59:15 AM PST by madameguinot (Our Father's God to Thee, Author of Liberty)
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To: cripplecreek
We spend way too much time navel gazing over what the media says about us and not enough time acting.

Agreed. Also, I never seem to see articles entitled "Are Liberals More Likely to Molest Children?". (we all know they are btw)
23 posted on 11/12/2012 9:01:48 AM PST by SpaceBar
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To: Cincinatus

If you on fool stamps you get 0bamaphone!


24 posted on 11/12/2012 9:03:29 AM PST by Clint N. Suhks (St.Peter:"Upon this rock, I will build my church" 0:"If you've got a church, you didn't build that!")
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To: madameguinot

Love it! With all respect, please consider that golden quote borrowed!


25 posted on 11/12/2012 9:03:40 AM PST by Badabing Badablonde (New to the internet? CLICK HERE)
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To: Clint N. Suhks
Obama, Jarret and Asselrod have assembled a Brown Shirt Coalition that would make Heinrich Himmler would be proud of. The pseudo intellectual, impressionable young, under educated and thuggish criminal element.

USA, a great idea, good luck keeping it.

26 posted on 11/12/2012 9:10:20 AM PST by gov_bean_ counter (Hope and Change has become Attack and Obfuscate.)
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To: Clint N. Suhks
Are Obama Voters Smarter Than Romney Voters?

Sure. Just ask them.

27 posted on 11/12/2012 9:15:11 AM PST by bankwalker (In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.)
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To: Clint N. Suhks
Let's put it this way....

Which group is most apt to survive the coming Oboma economic meltdown? Those who depend on free handouts that won't be there? College professors who have noting but big words and a pencil to defend themselves? Or those who know how to repair an engine, know how to hunt, have the foresight to understand the value of faith, and have the desire to live and be free?

Nuff said. In the end, the lefts own propaganda that states only the strongest and smartest survive, will eventually be proven right by their own demise.
(Ironic, isn't it?)

28 posted on 11/12/2012 9:16:55 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: bankwalker

That’s most of the appeal, comrade.
The communists have always used this as a recruiting tool.

“All the smart/intellectual/’scientific’ people are marxists, and if you want to be considered smart, you’ll believe like we do.”


29 posted on 11/12/2012 9:18:58 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Clint N. Suhks
Rich states and poor people vote democratic
Poor states and rich people vote republican

Rich states have higher educational levels, fewer dropouts, fewer below poverty level, less pollution, etc, etc.

30 posted on 11/12/2012 9:19:09 AM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Clint N. Suhks

Are Obama Voters Smarter Than Romney Voters?

"Dat's right! Romney? He sux!"


31 posted on 11/12/2012 9:19:10 AM PST by COBOL2Java (The GOP-e said "Beat a Marxist with a Liberal!" What a colossal blunder.)
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To: showme_the_Glory

Imagine how many Germans believed Hitler was smart!


32 posted on 11/12/2012 9:23:09 AM PST by existentially_kuffer
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To: Clint N. Suhks

At least one problem with the degree = smarter theory. If one was to look through the catalog of any major university you would find pages and pages of degrees, most of them utterly useless. The handful of “real” degrees (science and engineering) go towards a very small percentage of college grads. The rest are a bunch of indoctrinated lemmings.


33 posted on 11/12/2012 9:25:08 AM PST by chaos_5
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To: Clint N. Suhks

Give an 8th grade civics test to your average D&R voters and then see who is better INFORMED.


34 posted on 11/12/2012 9:27:18 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: avacado
Obama voters are the moochers, period.

Yep. He promised them all kinds of new freebies and new "rights."
When the SHTF Oboma will be safely tucked away in a bunker, so why should he care? His ego "won."

35 posted on 11/12/2012 9:38:41 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Clint N. Suhks
The longer you stay in college, the more you know about nothing of importance.


36 posted on 11/12/2012 9:40:50 AM PST by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: madameguinot

re: “MERRY CHRISTMAS...MY FIRST CARD OF THE YEAR...I love Christmas lights. They remind me of the people who voted for Obama. They all hang together; half of them don’t work, and the ones that do, aren’t all that bright. For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not
understand, no explanation is possible.”

Love it!! Thank you for sharing that.


37 posted on 11/12/2012 9:41:03 AM PST by rusty schucklefurd
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To: Clint N. Suhks

Considering the debt required to get that college degree, Obama voters in that catagory believed that Obama will ‘forgive’ their debts.
FREE College (for them and their kids)
Soon enough they will get what they pay for!


38 posted on 11/12/2012 9:41:59 AM PST by griswold3 (Big Government does not tolerate rivals.)
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To: griswold3
“Much of what is called ‘education’ is little more than an expensive isolation from reality”- T.Sowell.
39 posted on 11/12/2012 9:48:47 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

A college education is not necessarily an index depicting higher intelligence. This is due to “equal opportunity;” leftist brainwashing in colleges; a real “dumbing down” of course content in the non-technical courses; grade inflation etc. etc.


40 posted on 11/12/2012 9:50:25 AM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

How many Obama voters have a degree in “You want fries with that?”


41 posted on 11/12/2012 9:50:28 AM PST by ebshumidors
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To: Clint N. Suhks
Mensa puts my IQ at 160+. All of O'Bunghole's supporters combined don't approach that. The vapid, mouth-breathing inbreds.

;-\

42 posted on 11/12/2012 9:51:01 AM PST by Gargantua ("Barbie O'Bunga ~ America's First Fly-Strewn, Maggot-Gagging Fag President")
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To: gov_bean_ counter
Obama, Jarret and Asselrod have assembled a Brown Shirt Coalition that would make Heinrich Himmler would be proud of. The pseudo intellectual, impressionable young, under educated and thuggish criminal element.

Acutally let me correct you and I have a point here. Ernst Rohm was the head of the SA in pre-war Germany, the Brownshirts. It was made up of much of the rabble of post WWI Germany. Petty criminals, out of work blue collar types, socialists, dropouts..basically Obama's ground troops. But if history teaches us a lesson and why I corrected yours. Himmler was head of the SS, an elite highly educated force which Hitler enlisted to liquidate the SA when the brownshirts became not so uselful. When Obama has no use for the rabble, well you do the history.

43 posted on 11/12/2012 9:53:45 AM PST by pburgh01
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To: Clint N. Suhks

False syllogism. One of its premises assumes that a college degree makes one smarter.


44 posted on 11/12/2012 10:04:00 AM PST by A'elian' nation (Political correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred. Jacques Barzun)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

Fine. Lets have a national combination general knowledge/IQ test day. Republican voters will outperform Democrat voters handily.


45 posted on 11/12/2012 10:11:37 AM PST by driftless2
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To: Clint N. Suhks

Not from what I observed during the election.

In my state we use an optical-scanning machine to read the ballots as they’re cast. Most of the time, the ballot goes through the machine and is automatically deposited into a locked compartment. Once in a while, someone will make marks on the ballot where there shouldn’t be, or marks more than one candidate for an office, in which case the machine spits the ballot back out, and we have to look and see what’s wrong so we can instruct the voter on how to correct it.

This election, there were an inordinate number of rejected ballots. I mean a ridiculous number, it seemed like every 3rd person was messing up their ballot, and the mistakes were more creative than I’d ever seen in previous elections. We had people circling the name and putting asterisks by it, we had people who, instead of connecting the ends of the arrows across, would connect them diagonally, making it look like a match-up test. Lots of people tried to mark more than one canditate per office, we even had 2 different voters who tried to vote for 6 different presidents on their ballot. And, I tried not to notice this, I really did, but every single messed-up ballot was done by an Obama voter.

Every. Single. One.

I’m sorry, but anyone who thinks Obama voters are smarter than everyone else has never had to work in a polling place.


46 posted on 11/12/2012 10:13:47 AM PST by Ellendra (http://www.ustrendy.com/ellendra-nauriel/portfolio/18423/concealed-couture/)
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To: DuncanWaring
"Obama voters"

I'm willing to bet my life's savings that the most ignorant voters are easily Obama voters. Just talk to my three lib sisters, and you'll come to that conclusion.

47 posted on 11/12/2012 10:14:05 AM PST by driftless2
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To: Clint N. Suhks

Smart enough to know that they can vote themselves more obamaphones and other benefits paid for by ROMNEY VOTERS.


48 posted on 11/12/2012 10:21:11 AM PST by I want the USA back (Socialism works until it runs out of other peoples' money.)
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To: pburgh01

Thank you for the correction. Something I should have known.


49 posted on 11/12/2012 10:56:32 AM PST by gov_bean_ counter (Hope and Change has become Attack and Obfuscate.)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

It’s like Reagan said, “Well, the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn’t so.”


50 posted on 11/12/2012 11:13:36 AM PST by bopdowah ("Unlike King Midas, whatever the Gubmint touches sure don't turn to Gold!')
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