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Posted on 11/12/2012 10:21:38 AM PST by Sub-Driver

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To: dfwgator

Correct. Why vote for the imitator if you can vote for the real thing?


51 posted on 11/12/2012 10:54:01 AM PST by MissesBush (The Fourth Estate has Become a Fifth Column)
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To: dforest

That’s what happened when the “melting pot” became a “tossed salad.”


52 posted on 11/12/2012 10:54:01 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: ottbmare

>>This does not mean compromising or changing our principles. It means explaining them instead of ignoring these groups. It means doing what Paul Ryan wanted to do: going into these communities and telling people there why conservatism is good for them.

Actually, it does mean compromising or changing our principles. You can’t explain anything like the value of hard work to people who greet you with “show me da money”. You can’t fight the media in nation where the unemployed can afford cable TV.

How can you win over people who vote for skin color and free stuff? How can you make conservatism work under a system where labor is taxed to pay entitlements to the non-working? How can you be pro-life while encouraging abortion? Why do we have to struggle to promote blacks and hispanics as candidates just to prove how “big tent” we are?

Freedom to live as you see fit should be our Big Tent. But most Americans do not want to live free. They just want free stuff and they want someone else to work for it. That’s the hard fact of life in the 21st century USA.

The Dems won, so all we’re left with is “Burn Baby, Burn!”


53 posted on 11/12/2012 10:54:21 AM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: dforest
He says great things at times, but he doesn’t always mean them.

Tell us, then, who on the campaign trail really did mean everything they said and the experience to do it?

54 posted on 11/12/2012 10:56:15 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: fwdude
They chose a RINO like you.

That's news, when did they chose Newt? Fill us in.

55 posted on 11/12/2012 10:58:12 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name

Well, gee, maybe none of them, including Newt.


56 posted on 11/12/2012 10:58:31 AM PST by dforest
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To: Sub-Driver

On the view?

What a whore


57 posted on 11/12/2012 10:59:55 AM PST by wardaddy (i want Santa to make Quentin Tarantino into a negro for Christmas)
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To: newheart; Melas

Should the GOP turn for its leadership to the likes of Christine Todd Whitman, Lowell Weicker, Susan Collins or Dick Riordan?


58 posted on 11/12/2012 11:00:44 AM PST by Fiji Hill (Deo Vindice!)
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To: Sub-Driver
The GOP did wrap it arms around the TeaParty, and they sure did everything possible to help Sarah Palin. s/
59 posted on 11/12/2012 11:02:10 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Sub-Driver

I suspect Mr. Gingrich and I have a different view of what “inclusive” means.

His probably means “let’s play the pander game and get demographic X to like us more.”

My definition is “let’s make a better effort to get our true message out to demographic X instead of the usual distortions of the MSM or the opposition party (which are often one and the same.) “


60 posted on 11/12/2012 11:03:00 AM PST by DemforBush (100% Ex-Democrat.)
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To: circlecity

These damn fools are so stupid they will lose seats in 2014 and really get their asses kicked in 2016 when they run more of the conservatives off.

GOP continue your leftward liberal lurch that started in 1988,see what happens. You lost 3 million votes already in four years.


61 posted on 11/12/2012 11:03:27 AM PST by sarge83
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To: Java4Jay

OMG! What a retard statement! We now know how you determine who is best to lead our country. Some shouldn’t be allowed to vote.


62 posted on 11/12/2012 11:05:00 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: Sub-Driver
He sure knows how to speak and sound acceptable to whoever he is in front of, doesnt he?

Be it a debate, Greta, on a couch with Pelosi or these hags, he knows how to speak to his audience, which tells me he should just go away or, stop pretending to know what is best for the party.

63 posted on 11/12/2012 11:06:13 AM PST by capydick (''Life's tough.......it's even tougher if you're stupid.'')
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To: Fiji Hill; Melas
Should the GOP turn for its leadership to the likes of Christine Todd Whitman, Lowell Weicker, Susan Collins or Dick Riordan?

Of course not. It just might not be a good idea to brand everyone who disagrees with us as idiots if we are trying to convert them.

64 posted on 11/12/2012 11:07:37 AM PST by newheart (The greatest trick the left ever pulled was convincing the world it was not a religion.)
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To: LegendHasIt

I don’t believe you!


65 posted on 11/12/2012 11:07:37 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: Sub-Driver

Hey gingman impress us all call out the rats on VOTER FRAUD, yeah I thought so. Someone shut the windows the crickets are to loud since nov 6


66 posted on 11/12/2012 11:07:54 AM PST by ronnie raygun (bb)
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To: texaschick
They had speakers who were black, women, black women, hispanic men, hispanic women. If animals could talk they would have had a time slot too.

ANYONE but Patriot Conservative Sarah.

67 posted on 11/12/2012 11:09:49 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: Sub-Driver

Newt, until the conservatives address voter fraud for one, and stop being stupid little pussies for two, they are going to get their asses kicked all day long.

Knock it off, this is war and we are bleeding out of arteries on the field.


68 posted on 11/12/2012 11:10:00 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: dfwgator

Liberals have turned the WH into the outhouse, and the melting pot into the chamber pot!


69 posted on 11/12/2012 11:11:19 AM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Sub-Driver
You want to be inclusive?

Well here is how you do it from my POV:

1. Promote economic growth nationwide
A. Energy
i. drill baby drill
ii. mine baby mine
iii. build nuclear plants
B. Minimize Regulation
i. Limit the EPA
ii. Limit Labor regulation
iii. Repeal Obamacare
iv. Repeal Frank Dodd
v. Repeal all banking laws passed under Obama
vi. Do not tax Americans abroad
C. Decrease taxes on all businesses
D. Decrease taxes on dividends and interest income
E. Decrease Long Term Capital Gains Tax
2. Cut Spending
A. Rejigger Welfare and Medicaid
B. Rejigger Social Security for example
i. Defined Retirement income greater than or equal to $50,000, you may not collect until 70

C. Dispose of the following Agencies and Departments

i. EPA
ii. Education
iii. Energy
iv. Agriculture
v. Homeland Security
a. privatize TSA
vi. Health
vii. FDA, FCC, FTC, FERC
viii. New Tax Code that eliminated the IRS

That dear Newt, Rove, Boehner, etc is how you become all inclusive. Why the heck couldn’t you guys talk about this you jerks?

70 posted on 11/12/2012 11:16:18 AM PST by Chgogal (Obama murdered the SEALs.They "were hung out to dry, basically exposed like a set of dog balls,...")
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To: Java4Jay

Does the phrase “it will be a cold day in Hell” mean anything to you?


71 posted on 11/12/2012 11:16:18 AM PST by princeofdarkness ( Nobama. No more. No way. November 2012.)
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To: Just mythoughts

Exactly! Just like they are down in FL supporting Allen West!


72 posted on 11/12/2012 11:17:06 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: Sub-Driver
Some of you guys on this thread are so one track minded.

He is saying we need to put more focus/more ground work in minority neighborhoods of the Latinos and AA in our party because it does look like the white boys party. Even I feel that way..We need to modern ourselves and find new younger people for out front like Palin and Rubio -we need new blood. as long as you kick and scream, throw off on people every day...we are going to have problems of losing. There is no national leader for the Republicans yet alone for the conservative moment. GW Bush is almost toxic due to the way in which the media has done things (and he caused some of the blame to be there) Newt has to be wondering what went wrong. Glad he can talk so we can work through this. People are in shock because they thought the Marxist was so dangerous, he would lose. Now, this..trying to figure out the problem. Part of it was the candidate. We cannot be a party for one issue. Neither party will force the illegals here now to leave. Can't you accept that. All of the years--they won't do it.

73 posted on 11/12/2012 11:17:51 AM PST by Christie at the beach (I like Newt.)
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To: newheart; Fiji Hill

You convert with truth not pandering!


74 posted on 11/12/2012 11:20:13 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: Sub-Driver

Michael Savage had newt’s number a long time ago.


75 posted on 11/12/2012 11:21:50 AM PST by SpaceBar
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To: Sub-Driver

If you are black or Hispanic and even moderately conservative you will go right to the front of the candidate line in any state in the union.


76 posted on 11/12/2012 11:26:50 AM PST by DManA
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To: MissesBush

I’m with you. The MSM was bad in 1980 but they are even worse today. They have made no bones about whose side they are on.Plus the demographics are what they are. Mitt Romney could have run the best Conservative campaign in the world, but the results would have been the same. The takers are quickly outnumbering the producers.

I do believe some fraud was involved, but not to the extent that it could have changed the outcome of the election. If there is evidence of fraud let’s find it and present it. Otherwise, it’s sour grapes.


77 posted on 11/12/2012 11:27:46 AM PST by princeofdarkness ( Nobama. No more. No way. November 2012.)
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To: Christie at the beach
GW Bush is almost toxic due to the way in which the media has done things

Of course, it's the media. Lies and bias from them and then voter fraud. Until they point the finger at where it belongs - they are spinning their wheels and I have them on mute.

78 posted on 11/12/2012 11:28:28 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: Bryanw92
You can’t explain anything like the value of hard work to people who greet you with “show me da money”. You can’t fight the media in nation where the unemployed can afford cable TV.

That's true. We are never going to get the votes of the lazy and selfish. But there are a lot of members of minority groups who are not lazy and selfish. Some of them are middle-income or even upper-middle income and they work hard.
I was just listening this morning to a black woman who calls in to a local conservative talk show. She is a regular caller, a mother of five, former military, very religious. She described her recent effort to educate another friend, a black man. She was driving in a car listening to talk radio, which he'd never heard before, and she talked to him about some of the things that we conservatives know. He said, "How do you know all this stuff? Where did you hear it?" He had never heard Fox, or Rush, or Mark, or Chris Plante, because he had been told the standard line that they're all evil racists. When she informed him of the truth, he was stunned and admitted that he would never have voted for Obama if he'd known those things.

Of course there are many, many blacks who would vote for a black man like Obama no matter what sort of atrocity he committed. But there are others who are just uninformed, and if you can show them how it's not in their interests to have a man like Obama in office and tell them what his positions are, they do change their minds. I've seen it.

Why do we have to struggle to promote blacks and hispanics as candidates just to prove how “big tent” we are?

But it's not a struggle to promote blacks and Hispanics. If they are worthy and they embrace our beliefs, like Mia Love, they're welcome to run for higher office. Why should they be excluded? Is the GOP just a white guys' party? We are big tent. Conservative principles do work for everyone of every ethnic or racial or social backgrounds. we really are going to become extinct if we don't have everyone on board. The issue is just to stick to our principles and make sure that minorities understand that those principles are good for everyone.

I agree with you that there is no way to inspire the takers, except by the fear of hunger. Hunger is the motivation for most people to get off their backsides and work, after all. It's certainly my motivation. You may not ever get the ghetto to vote GOP.

79 posted on 11/12/2012 11:29:30 AM PST by ottbmare (The OTTB Mare)
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To: dforest

So you voted for some one who doesn’t mean what they say. So it was anyone but Newt. Gotcha.


80 posted on 11/12/2012 11:31:44 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name

>Tell us, then, who on the campaign trail really did mean everything they said and the experience to do it?

akin and mourdock came close. All they omitted was the promise to build maternity wards to hold the rape victims until they birthed rather than putting them in a holding cell.


81 posted on 11/12/2012 11:33:19 AM PST by soycd
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To: paglia444
It already is inclusive. Didn’t he watch the convention?

That's right! Those ILLEGALS are ILLEGAL and they just want MORE Freebies! Well the GOLDEN GOOSE is dead.

82 posted on 11/12/2012 11:34:35 AM PST by timestax (Why not drug tests for the President AND all White Hut staff ? ? ?)
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To: Sub-Driver
People on FR that were punting for Newt...

Where are you now you a-holes? You castigated us for pointing out Newt's "sitting on a bench with Nan" photo-op... You said we were being unreasonable. You said he REALLY WAS a "conservative"...

All of it, utter BS.

This is why we can't have nice things.

83 posted on 11/12/2012 11:37:32 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: SpaceBar

And I had Savage’s number a long time ago, also. 1-hot-air


84 posted on 11/12/2012 11:38:40 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: princeofdarkness
The takers are quickly outnumbering the producers.

That's 100% correct !

85 posted on 11/12/2012 11:38:56 AM PST by timestax (Why not drug tests for the President AND all White Hut staff ? ? ?)
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To: Sub-Driver

How about INCLUSIVE OF CONSERVATIVES??????!!!!!


86 posted on 11/12/2012 11:39:13 AM PST by goodnesswins (What has happened to America?)
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To: Sub-Driver

Explain Mia Love’s defeat, then we’ll talk “inclusive”.


87 posted on 11/12/2012 11:40:01 AM PST by Tex-Con-Man (<-------currently working through post-election anger issues.)
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To: Sub-Driver
I would partially agree.
We need to be the default choice as the best path for prosperity and freedom for non Caucasian US citizens.

Right now they don't see us as that. Simple demographics say that has to change.

88 posted on 11/12/2012 11:40:18 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland (Encourage all of your Democrat friends to get out and vote on November 7th, the stakes are high.)
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To: Dead Corpse
He was much better than Romney who lost.

You have the answers... you run next time..

89 posted on 11/12/2012 11:43:57 AM PST by Christie at the beach (I like Newt.)
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To: soycd

:)


90 posted on 11/12/2012 11:44:41 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: Dead Corpse
This is why we can't have nice things.

Well, you got your nice things with obama! What is your b*^ching about? We told you so!

91 posted on 11/12/2012 11:48:33 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name

“You convert with truth not pandering!”

Well said. But you also alienate with insults. The reality is that conservatives have almost always done a lousy job at articulating the truth. Instead, they/we resort to an “us and them” mentality which serves only to divide, and frankly I think that is all Newt was referring to when he said the word “inclusive.”

Here is the clearest picture of the problem I know of:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2958657/posts


92 posted on 11/12/2012 11:48:48 AM PST by newheart (The greatest trick the left ever pulled was convincing the world it was not a religion.)
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To: newheart
Instead, they/we resort to an “us and them” mentality which serves only to divide,

It's the Rats that made it about "us and them."

93 posted on 11/12/2012 11:50:02 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Christie at the beach
I would have done better. There is this little thing called "principles". I have them...

Newt apparently doesn't.

94 posted on 11/12/2012 11:51:27 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Sub-Driver

I mean we had a Black as RNC Chair, what good did that do?


95 posted on 11/12/2012 11:51:32 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: presently no screen name
My first choice was Cain.

For those of you Newt fans... How's that workin' out for ya'?

Jackass...

96 posted on 11/12/2012 11:53:05 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: SpaceBar
->>Michael Savage had newt’s number a long time ago.

He plays all over the field. Don't trust him. I would take Newt sitting by nancy anyday vs Romney writing Obamacare and saying he was proud of Romneycare. Duh. So, that's why I supported Newt when he was still in the game. His reforms that he did while Speaker were conservative so this hatred for Newt isn't there for me.

97 posted on 11/12/2012 11:53:20 AM PST by Christie at the beach (I like Newt.)
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To: dfwgator
It's the Rats that made it about "us and them."

Takes two to tango. Even the word "Rats" gives away your position.

98 posted on 11/12/2012 11:53:55 AM PST by newheart (The greatest trick the left ever pulled was convincing the world it was not a religion.)
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To: Melas
Why should he shut up? He’s right.

Sure, lets just go after the idiots that voted for the one. Then we can have 2 parties of idiots. Shut up Newt.

99 posted on 11/12/2012 11:54:41 AM PST by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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To: newheart
frankly I think that is all Newt was referring to when he said the word “inclusive.”

So do I. He knows they excluded us as they did Sarah, for example. Sowell, AS USUAL, is right on! Thanks for the link, I miss that thread.

100 posted on 11/12/2012 11:57:46 AM PST by presently no screen name
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