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We Just Had a Class War. And one side won. (The View from the Left)
New York Magazine ^ | 11/11/2012 | Jonathan Chait

Posted on 11/12/2012 11:44:35 AM PST by mojito

When President Obama took the stage at McCormick Place in Chicago well after midnight, we were all too wiped out with joy or depression or Nate Silver auto-refresh fatigue to pay careful attention to the speech the newly reelected president delivered. The phrase that lingered in most of our sleepy ears was the reprise of his career-launching invocation of the United States as being more than red and blue states. So soaring, so unifying. But those words were merely the trappings of magnanimity draped over an argument that was, at its core, harsher than the one he had regularly delivered during the campaign.

The telling phrase came when Obama turned away from the thank-yous and patriotic hymnals into the guts of his remarks. “Despite all our differences,” he transitioned, “most of us share certain hopes for America’s future.” The key term here is “most,” as opposed to “all”—“most” meaning less than 100 percent and possibly as little as 51 percent. He attributed to most Americans a desire for great schools, a desire to limit debt and inequality: “a generous America, a compassionate America.”

Obama then proceeded to define the American idea in a way that excludes the makers-versus-takers conception of individual responsibility propounded by Paul Ryan and the tea party.

(Excerpt) Read more at nymag.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012analysis; 2012electionanalysis; classwarfare; obama
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To: RKBA Democrat

They presented themselves as 51% at the polls


21 posted on 11/12/2012 12:47:59 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: mojito
Hardly. The war just started 6 days ago.
22 posted on 11/12/2012 12:49:36 PM PST by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: llevrok

When we are children, most of us think about running away from home. But, if you live long enough, it is likely that home will run away from you.


23 posted on 11/12/2012 12:53:37 PM PST by Anima Mundi (You can lead a brain to facts but you can't make it think.)
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To: Tzimisce

http://www.examiner.com/article/multiple-states-petition-obama-to-secede-from-union-start-own-governments?cid=rss

Several of them have — Virginia and Tennessee are the only former Confederate States not petititioning, and Oklahoma and New Mexico, which had secessionist movements (the Five Civilized Nations in Oklahoma seceded as tribes), were still territories.


24 posted on 11/12/2012 12:55:35 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: MrB
They can’t MAKE us produce.

The National Socialists 2 generations ago would beg to differ. They had a nifty slogan, too. "Work makes you free" ("Arbeit macht frei")

25 posted on 11/12/2012 1:04:22 PM PST by Teacher317 ('Tis time to fear when tyrants seem to kiss.)
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To: Verginius Rufus
Obama had a few words which were vaguely conciliatory right after the election.....

Actually, if you read the Chait article, in which Chait parses Barky closely, you see that Obama, as he insists, was more hard-edged and hyperpartisan than ever, and still bringing the class-warfare rhetoric, even in victory -- which in American political tradition is the time for magnanimity and reconciliation.

Of course, America has never had doctrinaire Marxist-Leninist hardguys like Plouffe and Valerie Jarrett and Barky running it before. A bunch of middle-class, hothouse tuff guys trying to prove how "all-that" they are: a bunch of Strelnikov wannabe's, lusting to stand a bunch of "capitalists" in front of a wall </off Zhivago>.

Anyone think it was a coincidence that Holder went out and arrested a bunch of white guys in Texas the next day?

26 posted on 11/12/2012 1:07:04 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: Teacher317

The purpose of those camps was not to produce enough goods and services to subsidize the lifestyles of half the country. It was to humiliate and kill.

Now, I’m not saying that the left wouldn’t love to humiliate and kill all conservatives & Christians,

but such a program would not provide enough capital to support their dependent class.


27 posted on 11/12/2012 1:10:13 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: henkster

You nailed it!!! Good post


28 posted on 11/12/2012 1:15:03 PM PST by BobinIL
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To: mojito

The day that VOTING died in America..
And many became political adults..
Nov. 2012... A political right of passage..


29 posted on 11/12/2012 1:26:09 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: Tzimisce
The state of New York has petitioned to leave the Union.

New York state is more than New York City.

I lived in the Rochester area in the 1970s, and signed a petition for secession from NYC, where all the tax dollars flowed.

Appalachia begins in the southern part of NY. Wayne County, on Lake Ontario, has some of the poorest people I've ever seen in this country. Back before cell phones, cars would slide off the roads in blizzards. It was not unheard of for people to DIE in their cars because they could not see a building 100 feet away in the snow. The "Big City" in western NY is Toronto.
30 posted on 11/12/2012 1:27:19 PM PST by Nepeta
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To: mojito

Many people like myself will look to reduce their exposure to taxes. My overall goal is to to stop the feeding of the beast. Producing just enough to satisfy our new smaller limited lifestyle. And don’t come to me for a job, I am not hiring.


31 posted on 11/12/2012 1:27:41 PM PST by D Rider
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To: mojito

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YC_DRzZyCcM&list=UUBABsFdW6BWDykitKZAt8vg&index=2&feature=plcp


32 posted on 11/12/2012 2:34:18 PM PST by IslamE (epiphany)
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To: mojito

It’s amazing that Chait managed to remove the super-suction type hold his lips had on Obama’s posterior to write this article. Truly incredible.


33 posted on 11/12/2012 2:36:13 PM PST by driftless2
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To: mojito

The youth and everyone else faces pay cuts, cuts in scheduled hours and increasing unavailability of good jobs. How did the Left win, really? Maybe the guys at the top won but no one else.


34 posted on 11/12/2012 3:15:51 PM PST by Crucial (Tolerance at the expense of equal treatment is the path to tyranny.)
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To: Nepeta

You think you’re going to leave the union with New York City in your boundaries?


35 posted on 11/12/2012 7:36:30 PM PST by Tzimisce (Will there be anything to fight for in 2016?)
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To: mojito
A pity, really. Chait had a few good points but is so trapped in stereotype that he can't really think. This, for instance:

Obama’s goal was to prove to the GOP that their rigid defense of the richest one percent was political poison and to force them to bend.

I challenge him to produce a single shred of evidence that this ridiculous propaganda point had any basis in reality. It didn't, and it wasn't the basis of any political traction other than within the ranks of the already true believers.

But yes, a culture war was and is still being conducted against everything the conservatives can be accused of holding dear. Some of it will be broadly regretted when lost - freedom of speech, for example. This is not a cultural war between makers and takers so much as a war between controllers and their slaves, between statist progressives and everyone else they think ought to live according to their dictates. Here I celebrate Chait for his candor if not for his sound thinking:

Of course, what the people want is all fairly beside the point now. What matters in Washington is power and leverage—two things that accrued dramatically in Obama’s favor last week. But it’s not irrelevant that American voters had a chance to lay down their marker on the major social divide of our time: whether government can mitigate the skyrocketing inequality generated by the marketplace.

In short, in Chait's view the people have voted for government redistribution of wealth, or at least can be portrayed as having done so, and after that it really doesn't matter what they want anymore. Yes, this is undisguised state socialism. And Mr. Chait intends to effect it through coercion.

We need to start remembering names. Because the class war hasn't been won because the loudmouthed Left has declared it so.

36 posted on 11/12/2012 7:56:03 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: WOSG

“Money quote:

“The harsh truth that fend-for-yourself economic libertarianism is a worldview mainly confined to the shrinking, aging white electorate is a reality Republicans prefer not to acknowledge.”

He also says that latinos were not voting for Obama over immigration, but because they support big government.

If Obama is right then everyone must know America’s best days are far-behind her. There is no way a people who will not individuality work hard will be prosperous. Folks that wait around for others to carry their weight and place blame and expectation upon others shoulders for their failings & success will see little success and much failings.

This is the case all around the world where this ideology is tried. It can be no different here, that is simple human nature tried and tested.


37 posted on 11/13/2012 12:24:48 AM PST by Monorprise
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To: Monorprise

One day these leftist minority will wake up and realize that the America their forefathers came to to have a chance at real freedom and prosperity is now no different than the land they left behind because of what they foolishly abandoned.

At that point it is likely to be too late even for them who remember as they too will be too old and comparatively wealthy(due to the growing number of unproductive poor) to be taken seriously by the socialist doctrine, instead they will be the new targets.

If Obama is right about theses people & their desired “change”, America & freedom is perhaps irrecoverably dead. There is too much built up wealth in this land for them to gorge themselves on before they are past the point of no return(from a generational education perspective).


38 posted on 11/13/2012 12:34:17 AM PST by Monorprise
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