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CALIFORNIANS HAND OVER THEIR PIN NUMBERS TO DEMOCRATS
human events ^ | november 12, 2012 | Steven Greenhut

Posted on 11/12/2012 2:38:47 PM PST by lowbridge

The big news: It looks like voters have handed two-thirds legislative majorities to the Democrats. The state Senate is a sure thing, and final counting will likely yield supermajority control of the Assembly to the Democrats, thanks, in part, to North Orange County voters’ ousting of Assemblyman Chris Norby.

Currently, the only thing standing between California residents and an endless series of bumps in sales taxes, income taxes, gasoline taxes and business taxes has been the constitutional requirement that raising taxes requires a two-thirds vote.

Republicans in California don’t stand for much, but they have mostly stood together in opposition to tax increases. Likewise, Democrats – including the handful of “moderates” – have been unified in their promotion of higher taxes as the answer to California’s problems. Now the Democrats will have their way, early and often.

“It’s time to start anew and to live within our means but at the same time invest in the cornerstone of our future and of our economy, and that’s education,” Senate President Pro Tem Darrell Steinberg, D-Sacramento, told CBS News. “I certainly don’t mean to suggest to my colleagues that the first thing we do is go out and raise more taxes,” he said.

Maybe not the first thing, but certainly the second and third things, if Steinberg runs the Senate the way he has up until now. Gov. Jerry Brown and other high-ranking Democrats assured the public that there will be no tax frenzy. As a headline put it, they “vow restraint,” but don’t believe them. Look at the bills the Legislature passed even when tax increases were not assured.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: california
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1 posted on 11/12/2012 2:38:52 PM PST by lowbridge
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To: lowbridge

If footing the bill for sex changes is showing restraint I’d hate like hell to see what fast and free is.


2 posted on 11/12/2012 2:41:13 PM PST by ShadowDancer ("Don't expect to build up the weak by pulling down the strong.")
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To: lowbridge

Have I mentioned how glad I am that I moved to Texas this year? Of course, as more out-of-work leftists seeking better economic climes infect the state, it’ll only remain red for so long.


3 posted on 11/12/2012 2:43:07 PM PST by william clark (Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: lowbridge

see what happens when you let free loaders make choices..more free loading


4 posted on 11/12/2012 2:44:52 PM PST by dalebert
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To: lowbridge
Illinois is the same way. Democrats now have veto proof majorities in BOTH the IL House and IL Senate. Our "Governor" is a GINO (Governor In Name Only.) He's no longer needed to sign anything. The IL State Legislature can vote anything they want into effect without fear of repriasal.

God help us all.

5 posted on 11/12/2012 2:47:48 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: lowbridge

Pity for the decent few left in CA but a quickened downfall will speed recovery.


6 posted on 11/12/2012 2:47:48 PM PST by soycd
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To: lowbridge

On the border between California and Arizona are fruit inspection stations, to insure that no infested California fruit are permitted across the border to damage Arizona’s fruit industry.

I wonder how these could be used to keep out refugees from California, seeking to export their bizarre, demanding, and foolhardy politics, while fleeing the results of their handiwork.


7 posted on 11/12/2012 2:48:51 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (DIY Bumper Sticker: "THREE TIMES,/ DEMOCRATS/ REJECTED GOD")
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To: lowbridge

I eagerly await the day California goes bankrupt and comes to the US taxpayer for a bailout. I’d love to see that state descend into absolute chaos and unrest, if only to educate the American people about what they chose last Tuesday. Only if the American people see the consequences of atheistic communism up close and personal will they retreat from the abyss.


8 posted on 11/12/2012 2:50:00 PM PST by crusader71
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To: lowbridge
In a just world Jerry Brown would stand trial for almost single handidly destroying what was once the greatest state in the union.

Union slut. I wonder whats in it for him.

9 posted on 11/12/2012 2:54:34 PM PST by skeeter
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To: lowbridge

California will have to build an “iron curtain” now to keep businesses from leaving.


10 posted on 11/12/2012 2:56:15 PM PST by Huskrrrr
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To: soycd
Pity for the decent few left in CA but a quickened downfall will speed recovery.

It is a myth that somehow things will get better after the inevitable collapse.

We won't rebuild better out of the proverbial ashes.

After the crash, we will still have the same cast of characters, all with their hands out. The unions will still own the politicians, who will still be elected democrats voted in by the majority of freeloaders.

11 posted on 11/12/2012 2:58:45 PM PST by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
I wonder how these could be used to keep out refugees from California, seeking to export their bizarre, demanding, and foolhardy politics, while fleeing the results of their handiwork.

Its not CA refugees you need to worry about. If you slammed the door closed today your pandering politicians from your hometown will still eventually bring the inner piggy out in a plurality of your neighbors, too. 51% is all they need.

The traits that prohibited taking that which does not belong to you have been collectively reduced to nothing.

12 posted on 11/12/2012 3:01:05 PM PST by skeeter
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To: lowbridge

This will cause tens of thousands to flee from california to red states like Texas. Unfortunately they will continue to vote for liberals which will turn the states blue. Anyone leaving Cali. for another should be prohibited from voting for 10 years.


13 posted on 11/12/2012 3:05:39 PM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (Its finally happened. The parasites can out vote the productive. Welcome to bankruptcy.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
The inspection stations are when you enter California, passed one yesterday on I40, California & Arizona Border
14 posted on 11/12/2012 3:06:27 PM PST by Dstorm (Palin 2016)
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To: william clark
Have I mentioned how glad I am that I moved to Texas this year? Of course, as more out-of-work leftists seeking better economic climes infect the state, it’ll only remain red for so long.

It wont help you for long. I predict that within 16 months we are all forced to bail out Kommifornia and Il(l) under the pretense of a bond swap with the Fed. We will all be forced to pay the high price of these disgusting liberal petri dishes.

15 posted on 11/12/2012 3:09:23 PM PST by RobertClark (Inside every "older" person is a younger person wondering what the hell happened?)
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To: Brooklyn Attitude

Finishing up projects on my house right now. I wasn’t planning to sell until I retired in four years, but it will be on the market probably in February. I figure with the Dems in complete control it won’t be long before I am required to house at least one illegal, two welfare mommas and put up a statue of a California Condor on my lawn.


16 posted on 11/12/2012 3:10:47 PM PST by sixgunjer
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
On the border between California and Arizona are fruit inspection stations, to insure that no infested California fruit are permitted across the border to damage Arizona’s fruit industry.

Actually, the inspections stations are to inspect agricultural products inbound to CA, not outbound. I have many trucks in them on a daily basis. I have to pay drivers a premium just to get them to drive into that god forsaken hell hole - they all hate it!

17 posted on 11/12/2012 3:17:03 PM PST by RobertClark (Inside every "older" person is a younger person wondering what the hell happened?)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

I wonder how these could be used to keep out refugees from California,

As a soon to be refugee~~~I assure you that if we pick Arizona we will contribute and vote for conservatives only!
Love America, and bitterly fight the evil left~~
Not all Ca. refugee’s are toxic~:)


18 posted on 11/12/2012 3:17:55 PM PST by Isabel2010
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To: RobertClark; william clark
"It wont help you for long. I predict that within 16 months we are all forced to bail out Kommifornia and Il(l) under the pretense of a bond swap with the Fed. We will all be forced to pay the high price of these disgusting liberal petri dishes."

I agree. I am not sure how he will do it, but Obama will find a way to make the rest of us pay for California and other bankrupt concentrations of his supporters.

19 posted on 11/12/2012 3:20:02 PM PST by Truth29
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To: william clark

The ONLY reason I haven’t moved to Texas already is I want a job there before I relocate.

Know anyone looking for a sharp wafer fab engineer?


20 posted on 11/12/2012 3:21:43 PM PST by null and void (America - Abducted by Aliens...)
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To: skeeter

Jerry Brown looks like Ronald Reagan if you compare him to the democrats who run the state assembly and the state senate. The assembly and the senate have tried to pass bills that will unionize baby sitters. Whatever the unions want the unions will get. Look for the sales tax to get extended to cover services as well all retail sales of non food items. Of course, it will be for the children.


21 posted on 11/12/2012 3:28:01 PM PST by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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To: skeeter
In a just world Jerry Brown would stand trial for almost single handidly destroying what was once the greatest state in the union.

Single handedly? No way. What about the stupid CA voters who elected the socialist toady -- twice! And the greedy unions and big-government political leeches that powered him into office! Brown and Obama are both puppets manipulated by hidden but powerful anti-American interests.

22 posted on 11/12/2012 3:33:46 PM PST by Bernard Marx
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To: Bernard Marx

I’m sure Chauchesku wasn’t singly responsible for trashing Romania, either.


23 posted on 11/12/2012 3:50:36 PM PST by skeeter
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To: crusader71
I eagerly await the day California goes bankrupt and comes to the US taxpayer for a bailout.

If California defaults, they won't go to the US taxpayer, they will go to Obama.

Does that sharpen the picture a little for you??

24 posted on 11/12/2012 3:50:53 PM PST by DustyMoment (Congress - another name for white collar criminals!!)
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To: lowbridge

25 posted on 11/12/2012 4:04:54 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

Triple-dipper


26 posted on 11/12/2012 4:07:57 PM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: skeeter

The poster is correct. In CAL Brown is a moderate. The dems now have a super majority in CA assembly and senate and I think that means they can do any thing they want. Constitutional amendment, raise taxes etc.


27 posted on 11/12/2012 4:11:41 PM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: morphing libertarian
I don't see Brown as moderate or liberal. I see him as an agent of the unions.

Everything he ever endeavors to do is to their benefit.

I wonder whats in it for him.

28 posted on 11/12/2012 4:20:46 PM PST by skeeter
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To: crusader71

Yea, right. When it’s bad enough, the Feds will just transfer the balance to their sheet and let CA run wild again...


29 posted on 11/12/2012 4:26:15 PM PST by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: skeeter

I think in general he is liberal. Jesuit education.

Sometimes he surprises.

I guess he is in the unions pocket. He signed the bill setting up the unions.


30 posted on 11/12/2012 4:34:55 PM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Yep, I’ve thought of this too, I will never step foot in California ever again, I have fond memories of it during the eighties and that’s how I want to remember it, I’d rather go to Mexico than that bastion of self-hating whites and libtards!


31 posted on 11/12/2012 4:50:35 PM PST by IslamE (epiphany)
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To: umgud
It is a myth that somehow things will get better after the inevitable collapse.

I expect our business capital will be mostly gone by that point and that high taxes will remain, preventing a recovery.

32 posted on 11/12/2012 4:51:41 PM PST by Max in Utah (A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.)
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To: lowbridge

This is good news for the rest of the country. Better they get the pin numbers from Californians than from those of us in the rest of the country — which is what would have been coming next.


33 posted on 11/12/2012 4:53:07 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: lowbridge

Steinberg will look you in the eye and lie to your face.


34 posted on 11/12/2012 4:55:15 PM PST by SCalGal (Friends don't let friends donate to H$U$, A$PCA, or PETA.)
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To: morphing libertarian
He gave them collective bargaining. You can mark the accelerating decline of the state from the passing of that bill.
35 posted on 11/12/2012 4:56:15 PM PST by skeeter
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To: SoFloFreeper

Need to change that to 51%.


36 posted on 11/12/2012 5:12:12 PM PST by US_MilitaryRules (Unnngh! To many PDS people!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

My mistake. In cali it is 60%.


37 posted on 11/12/2012 5:15:22 PM PST by US_MilitaryRules (Unnngh! To many PDS people!)
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To: Uncle Chip
No it's not...

From the article:
A lot more taxpaying Californians are going to start exploring housing options in Dallas and Houston, now that California voters have figuratively handed over to the Democrats the PIN numbers to their bank accounts.

There's nothing good about this especially if you're in Texas.

38 posted on 11/12/2012 5:16:15 PM PST by paul544
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To: soycd

Pity for the decent few left in CA but a quickened downfall will speed recovery.

That can be said of Illinois.

there is one thing certain. They won’t be able to blame it on the conervatives.


39 posted on 11/12/2012 5:35:02 PM PST by chainsaw ("Two ways to conquer and enslave a nation. One is by the sword. The other is by Obama")
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To: lowbridge

California is about to boom once again. Didn’t you hear they passed high-speed rail?


40 posted on 11/12/2012 5:42:22 PM PST by Tea Party Terrorist (Your tattoo looks stupid.)
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To: Tea Party Terrorist

“Didn’t you hear they passed high-speed rail?”

How forward-thinking of them. I think I saw an episode about that new-fangled railroad thingie on “Little House On The Prairie”. Way cool, California.


41 posted on 11/12/2012 5:55:07 PM PST by MayflowerMadam
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To: skeeter
If you mean Nicolae Ceausescu you're mixing apples and oranges. Brown's a small-timer in comparison and lacks complete dictatorial control. He's still an elected official and must answer in some small part to the voters, even us conservatives.

Some of the worst problems in CA come from illegal immigration. While I'm sure Brown is sympatico with the illegals, we found out with Prop. 187 that the Federal Judiciary is too, and they make the rules. Frankly, big agriculture interests in CA that demand low-paid workers are a huge part of that problem. Even if Brown were sent packing we'd still have the illegals as well as a near-communist legislature. As I said before, Brown's just a puppet. Ceausescu wasn't; he was a tyrant.

42 posted on 11/12/2012 5:59:09 PM PST by Bernard Marx
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To: Huskrrrr

Calif. has already kicked around the idea of an “Exit/Departure Tax”

“A ballot proposal is underway in California that would amend the State Constitution with a Wealth Tax. Specifically, this is an additional tax to be levied against high valued property, and high income (between 36.5% - 54.3% one-time tax) should a resident die, OR DECIDE TO LEAVE THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.”

I heard last week that they’re discussing making it retroactive. We beat cheeks outta there in 2010, and we’re wondering how retroactive it’ll bel.

Google this: california exit tax — and you’ll get some interesting hits.


43 posted on 11/12/2012 6:00:29 PM PST by MayflowerMadam
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To: Bernard Marx

I was attempting to be funny.


44 posted on 11/12/2012 6:04:47 PM PST by skeeter
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To: MayflowerMadam
Calif. has already kicked around the idea of an “Exit/Departure Tax”

The Constitution guarantees the right of free passage and immigration, of American Citizens, among the several states. The Supreme Court has used that to strike down laws aimed at placing a burden on those moving into a state. I have not researched it, but I expect that the Federal Courts would strike down a measure that placed a burden on moving out of a state.

45 posted on 11/12/2012 6:09:34 PM PST by Pilsner
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To: MayflowerMadam
Calif. has already kicked around the idea of an “Exit/Departure Tax”

The Constitution guarantees the right of free passage and immigration, of American Citizens, among the several states. The Supreme Court has used that to strike down laws aimed at placing a burden on those moving into a state. I have not researched it, but I expect that the Federal Courts would strike down a measure that placed a burden on moving out of a state.

46 posted on 11/12/2012 6:09:34 PM PST by Pilsner
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To: william clark

Texans are different for a reason, its a culture. While illegals and yankees wander in there is something about the culture that will make some opinions change. Welcome to Texas, enjoy the freedom but never take us for granted. We will have our say about the Democrats taking anything over.Again welcome.


47 posted on 11/12/2012 6:20:01 PM PST by JohnD9207 (Isn't freedom worth fighting for?)
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To: skeeter

California Uber Alles

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UW8UlY8eXCk


48 posted on 11/12/2012 6:44:15 PM PST by hout8475
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To: MayflowerMadam

Why am I not surprised?


49 posted on 11/12/2012 6:59:49 PM PST by Huskrrrr
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To: skeeter

Guess I don’t have much of a sense of humor when it comes to Ceausescu.


50 posted on 11/12/2012 7:08:54 PM PST by Bernard Marx
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