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Twisting the Internal Polling Knife
Townhall.com ^ | November 12, 2012 | Guy Benson

Posted on 11/12/2012 5:24:35 PM PST by Kaslin

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To: bereanway

Yup....one of the guys who NAILED this election is a fellow Freeper called jackmercer who’s work you can look up in 2 minutes. Nate Silver killed it. All the best polls this year caught it. How many Romney voters do you think live in the inner-city.....almost zero I expect. Want to bet Romney’s numbers in the inner-city are the same as McCain & Bush ?


21 posted on 11/12/2012 6:45:44 PM PST by LongWayHome
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To: SoFloFreeper
Yes, well, NO ONE really expected a D+6 electorate. Not even the Obamugabe team...you could tell in the waning days of the campaign they were huddling, sending their ignorant prompter reading stooge to safe havens, in an effort to rally the base...they also seemed to have stopped believing their internal pollsters, if you look at their behavior.

You're absolutely right. Zero's antics really makes it seems like he thought he was behind. And the low rally attendance and lack of yard signs sure made it look like he was behind.

Either the Dems play a really deep game, pretending to be weak when they are strong in order to make Romney complacent. Or they really believed same things Romney's camp did and it just happened that the level of fraud matched what the polls predicted.

22 posted on 11/12/2012 6:48:11 PM PST by MN Mitch
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To: ncalburt

i agree with you, but people are addicted to being played by the Saul Alinsky rules, which Fox news reinforces by encouraging Republicans to blame each other rather then face the obvious, that Democrats are systmatically using voter fraud, and they stole this election with early voting, too easy to throw votes out and ballot stuffing. Makes me wonder what the real purpose of Fox News is, to destract the voters and make us feel that we have a voice, while the Democrats steal our elections. These people hate the United States, they are drunk on political correctness, for them, this is about revenge.


23 posted on 11/12/2012 7:12:56 PM PST by rodeo-mamma
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To: Kaslin

It is very easy to have confidence in fabricated data.


24 posted on 11/13/2012 2:04:19 AM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Kaslin
Before I start praising Obama’s internal pollsters, I want to see their predictions on turnout.

Did they predict Obama would drop 7 million votes from 2008, and still win?

I doubt it.

Did they predict Romney would get 1 million less than the completely incompetent John McCain?

I doubt it.

25 posted on 11/13/2012 2:06:26 AM PST by zeestephen
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To: Bigjimslade

It really explains why they couldn’t steal the House. They couldn’t manufacture enough fraud votes in those smaller districts.


26 posted on 11/13/2012 2:08:15 AM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

We don’t have a semblance of a Republic NOW. The election we couldn’t afford to lose was 2008. We did.


27 posted on 11/13/2012 2:11:23 AM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: LongWayHome
"Those certain precients you are talking about are in inner-cities that are 100% minority....what’s the surprise ?"

The surprise is (a) when they vote 110-120%, and (b) the opponent gets 0.

28 posted on 11/13/2012 5:09:06 AM PST by StAnDeliver (Own It.)
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To: Arthurio
The big tactical mistake was waiting until October to campaign in earnest. By then, peoples’ opinions had already hardened.

No, the really big mistake was made by the big money who backed a predictable Luser again, thinking they could just roll the opposition like 2004 -- out-Rove them.

That, and shoving to the sidelines the one candidate who could have brought out the millions of conservatives who just stayed home -- Sarah Palin.

So people in the East would have hated her -- who cares? They voted for Obama anyway.

Donna Brazile, who worked in a couple of presdential campaigns for the Dems, told her ABC Sunday-morning roundtable buds last January that Romney was the weakest possible GOP candidate (which btw is why Axelrod went out of his way to job Herman Cain), and that every time Romney had a good primary night, Obama had a better one. She knew.

29 posted on 11/13/2012 11:44:15 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: bereanway

Republicans don’t fight back. Why shouldn’t they lose? And why don’t we question Republicans’ willingness to lose? 2.5M McCain voters stayed home this year — six times the size of Obama’s win in the vote. The big question, aside from the modeling screw-up, is why we all believed a Romney support by R’s that wasn’t there. I believe the most distressing view: R’s believe a crash is coming and want it hung around Obama’s neck.


30 posted on 11/13/2012 12:25:32 PM PST by pabianice (washington, dc ..)
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To: Kaslin
If most Republicans did not want Romney and settled, how on earth can we expect the D's and the I's to like him?

He played it safe did not take it to Obama because he was afraid, just another Bush1, Dole and McCain, will the establishment party ever learn? He evidently was sooooo nice he had no clue who he was dealing with, the Chicago mob.

31 posted on 11/13/2012 2:22:05 PM PST by thirst4truth (www.Believer.com)
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To: pabianice
The big question, aside from the modeling screw-up, is why we all believed a Romney support by R’s that wasn’t there. I believe the most distressing view: R’s believe a crash is coming and want it hung around Obama’s neck.

Not judging the accuracy of the theme about GOPsters abandoning their man to let Obama hang -- I kinda don't think so, given the Supreme Court and Obamacare stakes, not even mentioning the threat that Obozo will now ram through the sovereignty-alienating U.N. treaties the Senate has refused to ratify, or even consider, ever since the Clinton administration -- I just wanted to mention that the idea of a crash impending and Republicans wanting a Democrat to be in charge when it arrives (reverse Hoover) was also current in 2007, as a way of explaining meagre Republican early-money giving.

The theory was that Hillary's presidency was a foregone conclusion, which was fine with the Republican masters of the universe, who wanted her standing there when the financial avalanche arrived at the bottom of the hill.

Then Hank the Shank and Helicopter Ben knifed Lehman Brothers, and the avalanche arrived before Mr. Bush could get out of the way, and we've had to listen to that "it's all Bush's fault" crap ever since. How embarrassing.

32 posted on 11/13/2012 7:50:28 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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