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The independent states of America: Tens of thousands demand to secede from U.S.
The Daily Mail ^ | Monday, November 12, 2012 | Louise Boyle

Posted on 11/12/2012 6:17:01 PM PST by MinorityRepublican

Bid for freedom: People from the states marked in red have lodged petitions asking to break away from the rest of the United States since Obama returned to the White House

Although America carried President Obama confidently into a second term last Tuesday - not everyone is jumping for joy at the prospect of four more years.

Tens of thousands have put their names to secession petitions in 20 states, asking that they peacefully become independent from the rest of the country.

The documents have been lodged on a government website We The People - and Texas has almost enough people behind its petition to warrant an official White House response.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Breaking News
KEYWORDS: 2012; cwii; donttreadonme; elections; secession; statesrights; tyranny; waronliberty; wethepeople
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1 posted on 11/12/2012 6:17:06 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

All of this is very interesting for the political world. It will probably have little effect otherwise but it does qualify as a disturbed and unhappy group of voters. I sure hope that their ideas and actions spread...


2 posted on 11/12/2012 6:22:53 PM PST by Deagle (quo)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Ohio has been added...

http://wh.gov/9Hw3


3 posted on 11/12/2012 6:23:00 PM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2013: Change we can look forward to.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Secession is an American and especially a Texas ideal:

www.freetexasconstitution.org

What it will take to get the ball rolling in Texas is pressure by a few business bigwigs on Gov Perry.


4 posted on 11/12/2012 6:25:04 PM PST by grumpa
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To: MinorityRepublican

The ISA can create a weak federation to handle defense and foreign affairs. This Congress can meet twice a year for one month each, once on budget and once on other matters.

They don’t need their own capital, the capital will revolve annual at state capitals.


5 posted on 11/12/2012 6:25:19 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Very interesting.


6 posted on 11/12/2012 6:25:55 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

7 posted on 11/12/2012 6:28:59 PM PST by Rebelbase (The most transparent administration ever is clear as mud.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

The time has come to separate the wheat from the chaff.


8 posted on 11/12/2012 6:29:38 PM PST by Oklahoma
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To: MinorityRepublican

Good deal, I’m all for it. What else can we do to let that Chicago gangster Communist he isn’t going to have an easy ride. Congress isn’t going to fight for us, its left up to us. We need to make a statement loud and clear. The Comrade will probably just laugh at it...let him laugh.


9 posted on 11/12/2012 6:30:22 PM PST by sasportas
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To: sasportas

I was just on that site and voted. Alabama is well past the amount needed yet the map is showing “grey” ?


10 posted on 11/12/2012 6:36:03 PM PST by imemyself
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To: MinorityRepublican

Should we petition to create a Southern Illinois independent state?


11 posted on 11/12/2012 6:37:15 PM PST by abishai
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To: abishai

12 posted on 11/12/2012 6:40:02 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

Back in the 1980’s I read a series of novels by William Johnstone about “Tri-States”. This was a constitutional government established in western Montana, northern Idaho, and eastern Washington lead by the charismatic Ben Raines.

I cannot recall what the event was that lead to the formation of Tri-states but they were always fighting the “Federal forces” from Washington, DC.

I’m ready. The election was stolen by a marxist muslim and his gang on November 6th. Are we going to continue with business as usual? We won’t if we want to survive.


13 posted on 11/12/2012 6:40:44 PM PST by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED)
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To: MinorityRepublican

CWII a-brewing, perhaps?
If over half the population wants a Marxist government, maybe it is time to split into two nations.


14 posted on 11/12/2012 6:44:00 PM PST by Ignatz (Winner of a prestigious 1960 Y-chromosome award!)
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To: MinorityRepublican

This Russian Proffesor must have been on drugs when he thought that Virginia,West Virginia and states immediately to the South would join up with the northeastern states.Thats dumb.

Their history’s don’t show that at all.So why he thought that i’ll never know and niether will he.


15 posted on 11/12/2012 6:44:41 PM PST by puppypusher (The World is going to the dogs.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Obama responds to the twenty or so states demanding secession.

http://www.google.com/search?q=blue+finger+voters&hl=en&tbo=u&tbm=isch&source=univ&sa=X&ei=v5qeUID4JMnDyQHunIHIAw&sqi=2&ved=0CE0QsAQ&biw=1280&bih=561


16 posted on 11/12/2012 6:45:10 PM PST by Enough is ENOUGH (Let's have the inevitable crash now... The longer we wait, the worse it will be...)
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To: MinorityRepublican

That crap never fails to crack me up. Canada? LOL


17 posted on 11/12/2012 6:46:02 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: MinorityRepublican

I don not believe that Idaho, Utah, of Arizona would ever want to be affiliated with the coastal areas of California, Oregon, or Washington. The eastern portions of those states are dark red while to western coastal areas are deep blue.

Hopefully there will be a big earthquake that will take these areas and make them REALLY deep blue!


18 posted on 11/12/2012 6:47:56 PM PST by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED)
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To: MinorityRepublican

What we may need to do now is start a procession from Idaho, down through Wyoming, Arizona and Texas , and make a clean sweep to the Atlantic.


19 posted on 11/12/2012 6:48:58 PM PST by Quickgun (I came here screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I can go out that way if I have to)
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To: MinorityRepublican
If that Russian feller thinks Idaho is going to be a part of the California Republic he's been hitting the vodka way too hard. And I note that the one thing he didn't provide for was a state or three who didn't intend to be under anybody's influence but their own.

It's probably a little hyperbolic at this moment to consider the country fissuring this way, but considering the widespread corruption, election fraud, union bullying, and strident propaganda that has allowed certain urban areas to dictate the rest of the country's leadership, I don't think it's much of an exaggeration to state that the country already has broken up. This is not a President or an administration that has the slightest intention of healing anything; their strength is through hatred and divisiveness. And we have four more years of this to go before the same team ramrods Hillary through for eight more.

20 posted on 11/12/2012 6:50:23 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: MinorityRepublican

Re #12 —

LOL... , yes I’m sure that is a “Russian Professor’s” prediction of how any secession would go.


21 posted on 11/12/2012 6:51:51 PM PST by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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To: 43north
Hopefully there will be a big earthquake that will take these areas and make them REALLY deep blue!

Well, God already did a pretty good job on New Jersey...It's a start.

22 posted on 11/12/2012 6:52:53 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month)
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To: Ignatz
"If over half the population wants a Marxist government, maybe it is time to split into two nations. "

Nah, just give em the cities. That's where they all breed.

23 posted on 11/12/2012 6:57:08 PM PST by Tula Git
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To: MinorityRepublican

I just have one question: Can we deport the bleeding heart libs?


24 posted on 11/12/2012 6:59:45 PM PST by Txngal
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OK, Virginia...

Really, Western and Southern VA are as different from Northern Virginia and the Tidewater as Alabama and Massachusetts. They should split off.


25 posted on 11/12/2012 7:00:18 PM PST by amishman
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To: amishman
I think the speculation was a sort of divvying up the spoils. There might not be all that much concern about contiguity of like populations if foreign countries were just trying to get theirs.

If they know what's good for them, though, they'll make New Scotland out of the Appalachians from northern Alabama all the way up to Pennsylvania and throw in the foothills on either side to boot, lol.

Talk about a hornet's nest under such a scenario.

26 posted on 11/12/2012 7:07:53 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: MinorityRepublican

How the Heck did the People's Republic of New York get colored red?


27 posted on 11/12/2012 7:09:28 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: MinorityRepublican

This is stupid. Most of us were here mocking Democrats who were threatening riots if Romney won. Now we have people saying we need to sucede from the Union since Obama won?!?! We need to grow up and work to find better candidates. This was hardly a mandate, We held serve solidly in the house so people realize they don’t want a banana republic. Are we in trouble with four more years of Obama? Yes, but we need to take advantage of the coming two bad years to win back the Senate and explode our majority in House.


28 posted on 11/12/2012 7:10:19 PM PST by shoedog
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To: amishman

Funny that Oregon is red.


29 posted on 11/12/2012 7:11:30 PM PST by angry elephant (Endangered species in Seattle)
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To: MinorityRepublican

And why should any of us pay any attention to what this Rusky thinks? What makes him an expert? What does he know about how we think in our different states? The following is more like the truth:

Idaho, Utah, and Arizona would distance themselves from this Rusky’s “Californian Republic.” Nevada and NM probably wouldn’t mind.

Liberal Minnesota and Illinois, and perhaps Michigan, wouldn’t be too happy in his Central North-American Republic.

Missouri, Kentucky, Tennessee, both Virginia’s, NC and SC, undoubtedly would rather identify with the southern states Republic.


30 posted on 11/12/2012 7:13:08 PM PST by sasportas
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To: MinorityRepublican

New york? Really? d:^/


31 posted on 11/12/2012 7:13:59 PM PST by Chuckster (The longer I live the less I care about what you think.)
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To: Billthedrill
And I note that the one thing he didn't provide for was a state or three who didn't intend to be under anybody's influence but their own.

Which state(s) that would be that not only want to be independent but are also singularly strong in military sense, to ensure that they are left alone?

Note that if a state (say, TX) is strong enough to defend itself then it is also strong enough to annex the neighbor - which is the same problem, just seen from the other end.

I don't think it's much of an exaggeration to state that the country already has broken up

Politically - yes. But in terms of control, the country is as solid as ever. Perhaps it is even more cohesive, with expanded rights of the federal government and with reduced rights of states.

The real dissolution begins only after the central government loses power. That may happen for a number of reasons, but financial troubles are the likeliest cause. At some point the strongman in Washington will be unable to provide food to the millions of people who depend on the government. Within a week those millions will be very hungry and very unhappy, to put it mildly.

It will be China, most likely, who will pull the trigger. They will do that when they sufficiently divest their dollar reserves. The rest they will use as a pretext for claiming ownership of everything in the USA, at an opportune time, when the nuclear forces are defanged by the civil war, hunger, and by special ops teams.

33 posted on 11/12/2012 7:14:17 PM PST by Greysard
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To: MinorityRepublican

The Texas petition has exceeded 25,000 signatures and so will receive an official response from the White House.


34 posted on 11/12/2012 7:19:00 PM PST by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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Oh, yeah, and did you everybody catch what this Rusky did with Alaska? He has it going back to Alaska. Hey, I live here! This Rusky only hopes that would happen, they have been making waves about taking it back for some time now.

We here in Alaska have common ground with those of the Midwest or Southern group of states.


35 posted on 11/12/2012 7:21:02 PM PST by sasportas
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To: sasportas

Correction: he has Alaska going back to Russia


36 posted on 11/12/2012 7:22:19 PM PST by sasportas
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To: shoedog

The United States will never see an honest election again..With the libmedia all in the bag for socialism, we are through with honest elections.


37 posted on 11/12/2012 7:25:48 PM PST by maeng ( l)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Todays this is seen as a nutty gadfly joke. But i predict it’s a fight in reality in 20 years. The trend all around the world is breakups. USSR, Balkans, etc. It’s been nonstop for the last 20 years.

When the East Coast Ivy establishment continually ignores and belittles the red states, when they “rule” as an elite of our “betters”, then they are rife with corruption and dishonesty, when they aggressively use laws and regulations to attack red state industries,,,, a separation is in the cards.


38 posted on 11/12/2012 7:27:20 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: DesertRhino
Todays this is seen as a nutty gadfly joke. But i predict it’s a fight in reality in 20 years.

What was it Gandhi said?

First the ignore you.
Then, they laugh at you.
Then, they fight you.
Then, you win.

39 posted on 11/12/2012 7:28:42 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: MinorityRepublican

I want out.

I don’t want to be a part of this disaster. :(


40 posted on 11/12/2012 7:32:13 PM PST by Tzimisce (Will there be anything to fight for in 2016?)
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To: MinorityRepublican

State Constitutional Convention File.


41 posted on 11/12/2012 7:32:42 PM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: MinorityRepublican

I can’t see any of the States south of the Mason-Dixon line, except for Maryland and Delaware, would want to join the EU.


42 posted on 11/12/2012 7:35:57 PM PST by Nowhere Man (Whitey, I miss you so much. Take care, pretty girl. (4-15-2001 - 10-12-2012))
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To: 43north

I love the “Ashes” series. A little OT but I’d like to put in a good word for Jerry Ahern’s “The Survivalist” too.


43 posted on 11/12/2012 7:38:09 PM PST by Nowhere Man (Whitey, I miss you so much. Take care, pretty girl. (4-15-2001 - 10-12-2012))
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To: shoedog

I know what you mean but it’s gonna be rough when there are more takers than we can shake a stick at? also to new takers will be receiving and voting by the time your describing.......Mark Belling stated yesterday that yes we usually show up just as much or more in midterm elections but it’s getting tougher at the rate the taker numbers are growing.

For example look at N.E. IL Nov. 6 results, look at the Dem victories there, we are in for some real shit after what happened.


44 posted on 11/12/2012 7:41:48 PM PST by BrianE ("Dead at 25 buried at 65 the average American" - Benjamin Franklin 1776)
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To: Ignatz
If over half the population wants a Marxist government, maybe it is time to split into two nations.

It runs that deep. I knew a guy for 40 years since I was 6 in 1972. We went to school from pre-first grade to high school. He's one of those that sees Obama as a ghod. Needless to say, 40 years down the drain now.
45 posted on 11/12/2012 7:41:51 PM PST by Nowhere Man (Whitey, I miss you so much. Take care, pretty girl. (4-15-2001 - 10-12-2012))
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To: dfwgator

Good quote. Very true. And i would prefer we restore the old USA, but i believe are beyond salvation.
And it’s very sad that the USA we all knew could face such a fate. But maybe, it’s not so bad. Instead of one intact revolutionary socialist/athiest/homosexual, anti-capitalist nation, we could preserve the ideals of the Old USA in the states that still believe in a constitutional republic.

In the end, it isn’t the red states that are trying to leave. This is simply a recognition that the blue states and federal government -have left us-.


46 posted on 11/12/2012 7:42:42 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: dfwgator

“What was it Gandhi said?

First the ignore you.
Then, they laugh at you.
Then, they fight you.
Then, you win.”

That’s exactly what will happen here.


47 posted on 11/12/2012 7:44:37 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Too bad I live in Commiefornia, the majority of people living here love Socialism..I want nothing to do with Obama or his radical agenda but I live here so either I move or Im screwed


48 posted on 11/12/2012 7:44:49 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Again, the history shows that migrations happen when splits occur. You will need some boots, a taste for BBQ, Shiner beer, and you should become very familiar with Jerry Jeff Walkers ¡Viva Terlingua! album.

And a proper pistol.


49 posted on 11/12/2012 7:56:12 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: 43north

Nuclear and biological war between Russia, China and US ... the series went on too long (over 30 books), but the first 5 or so were awesome !


50 posted on 11/12/2012 8:01:11 PM PST by martiangohome
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