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Major Post Election Events Are About To Change Americans' Lives Forever.
Decision Point ^ | November 12, 2012 | Dr Joe Duarte

Posted on 11/12/2012 6:29:59 PM PST by entropy12

The Financial Markets Have Yet To Begin Factoring In What Lies Ahead

The stock market may have found a temporary bottom as investors try to step away from the election and focus on the economy. The problem is that despite the election being over, the two dynamics are more interdependent now than they were before the Obama wins.

The really big picture is that daily life and the financial markets are now becoming one single entity. The days where markets were focused on factoring in the future are now past, at least for now. And making matters worse, we don't see any evidence that the market has quite caught up to reality fully yet.

What few seem to understand is that the United States is now a truly divided country. Republicans are not happy about the outcome of the election. They aren't sure why they lost, but they know that they lost because of something that they did. The question is whether they want to change their ways or dig in further while they try to convert larger numbers into joining their ranks, or whether they want to explore totally different avenues of adjusting to the new reality of their lives, higher taxes, government mandates, and a centrally run economy.

Interestingly, few Democrats are truly giddy. They won the election. But now they truly hold the country's future in their hands. A large portion of the public truly believes that Democrat policies will right the ship. They might. And yet they might not. So now it's all real. The pressure is really on. The Democrats are on their own. Few Republicans will help them. The divisions will widen.

(Excerpt) Read more at decisionpoint.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: business; democrats; elections
The democrats can not blame Bush-43 in 2016. Now they hold the proverbial tiger by the tail. If life for most Americans is not better in 2016, the tiger will devour the democrats in 2016, if not sooner in 2014. I don't think the free loaders are going to rejoice in 2016 since there simply is no money to keep expanding benefits. I hope and pray Americans are smarter than Greeks. But I won't hold my breath.

This no time to give up our conservative beliefs. Obamanomics will not improve the economy unless he follows in Clinton's steps. He won't, he is much more of an ideologue. Although for political savvy's sake which wins elections, republicans must avoid dumb statements, such as made my Todd Akin and Richard Mourdock. Those 2 were likely republican senate seats which are now democrat. We need to win elections if this country can be turned around. As the ABBA group sings, "Winner take all, loser must fall".

1 posted on 11/12/2012 6:30:07 PM PST by entropy12
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To: entropy12

They will blame Bush. The question is, will the same Obama voting idiots fall for it still? Ah, YEAH!


2 posted on 11/12/2012 6:35:25 PM PST by deadrock
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To: entropy12

They will blame Bush. They will blame Republicans. They will blame Racism. They will blame greedy Corporations and ricch people.

Nothing will change.

They will never blame themselves.


3 posted on 11/12/2012 6:35:29 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL; DEADROCK

They will always, of course blame Bush & republicans for all their failures. That is a given.

However after 8 years of economic and moral funk, a large sliver (5-10%) of the electorate might see the light. Otherwise we have gone beyond point of no return. In 2016 with another democrat president and congress we will have become Greece.

The pain and suffering Greeks are experiencing right now should be publicized front and center so the masses can learn something.


4 posted on 11/12/2012 6:40:30 PM PST by entropy12 (3 new SCOTUS appointments by Obama will ensure killing of unborn for next 30 years)
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To: entropy12

We’re in the rip-roaring “Obama recovery” and not able to break under the trillion a year deficit barrier.

This isn’t going to end well.....


5 posted on 11/12/2012 6:42:13 PM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's bankruptcy: 2016)
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To: entropy12

Make the destinction Republican v Conservative. Conservatives are not wondering what happened. They do not question it and they do NOT think they did anything wrong. If you don’t remember this, search Mark Levin, for starters.

Even O’Fielly had a piece on this mid-show today re: traditional Americans.

Republicans are John Boehner, Newt, and verious handwringers claiming shock or capitulationg. We are watching a major cover up about Benghazi while listening to people (or turning them off) state Hillary should go next for pres, not to a congressional hearing to explain her involvement.

Conservatives are not doing this. They are going to the Constitution which is all and only what these aforementioned people are sworn to uphold and their cynicism and secret agendae don’t count, as much as expectations are lowered.they have sworn to GOd to protect and defend this country for people to be free to worship Him and they are accountable. And that’s where to go when the money runs out, as it is not a document which depends on materialism (that’s Marxism).


6 posted on 11/12/2012 6:44:30 PM PST by stanne
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To: entropy12

When you can get elected by having the federal government give out free cell phones with your name attached, and expand food stamp recipients by 65%, it doesn’t matter what happens in the real world. The candidate with the best handouts in the last 6 months gets elected. If this were high school (aiming high here) handing out treats to everyone on election day would get you elected. Welcome to Obama’s Amerikka.


7 posted on 11/12/2012 6:47:13 PM PST by Avid Coug
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To: stanne

True Conservatives are never the problem. The problem is democrats are in power 1) Presidency 2) Senate. What percentage of House are true conservatives? My wild guess is 25% at the most.

In real life, people in power have all the power. Election losers have zero power to change anything. As the lefties expand their numbers among the elected, things will get worse, not better.


8 posted on 11/12/2012 6:50:49 PM PST by entropy12 (3 new SCOTUS appointments by Obama will ensure killing of unborn for next 30 years)
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To: entropy12

So what is this writers path to change our path. No “taker” group is going
to give up anything. And politicians know that. Add in a divided gov and
it will not change. The Gov keeps kicking the can down the road. The road
is about to run out.
I wish I could share his optimism, but the facts don’t support it.

Since these DC hacks are unwilling or incapable of dealing with the tough
Choices, the only outcome left is a collapse.


9 posted on 11/12/2012 6:51:07 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: Avid Coug
we have to realistically question whether we'll ever have real, free elections again...

hopefully, thru due diligence, we can win at local and state levels...its our ONLY hope....

10 posted on 11/12/2012 6:52:38 PM PST by cherry
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To: entropy12

Just saying, there is a distinction between conservatives and republicans and it should be kept when reading this article.


11 posted on 11/12/2012 6:53:10 PM PST by stanne
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To: entropy12

The Republicans and all conservatives must start campaigning now for the 2016 elections. The Democrats already are. Start rubbing in every failure, every frustration, every scandal, and be relentless. Buy the ad time and be relentless every year. Follow the Dem’s own Alinsky rules and constantly portray them as inhuman, cartoonish characters who are to blame for everything, and deserve everyone’s scorn. Sound harsh? The Dem’s have been doing it for years.


12 posted on 11/12/2012 6:54:18 PM PST by Avid Coug
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To: Avid Coug

What you described is exactly what happened in Greece. SO long as there are lenders to lend you money, handouts get expanded. But the bubble can only grow so big. It explodes every time.

The pain and suffering in Greece right now is what we have to look forward to unless things change.


13 posted on 11/12/2012 6:54:20 PM PST by entropy12 (3 new SCOTUS appointments by Obama will ensure killing of unborn for next 30 years)
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To: entropy12

Watch The Economic Presentation in 8 Parts here:
http://barnhardt.biz/


14 posted on 11/12/2012 6:54:58 PM PST by elpinta (Jer. 10:23 - It really holds true!)
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To: tennmountainman

The write has no cure. The ONLY cure can only come from Americans. But before that happens, unfortunately we might have to experience Greece like conditions first. Spain is on track to follow Greece. Italy will follow Spain. France will follow Italy.

In the meanwhile, the formerly socialist countries of Eastern Europe, Russia, China, India, Brazil, etc have made a turn towards capitalism.


15 posted on 11/12/2012 7:00:02 PM PST by entropy12 (3 new SCOTUS appointments by Obama will ensure killing of unborn for next 30 years)
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To: entropy12

Time will not stop the Dems from blaming Bush. The only thing that will? Explaining to people that liberalism, not bushism, got us into this mess.

The longer the lie is allowed to stand, and not be challenged, the stronger it will become. This economy will be blamed on Bush til someone challenges it.

And thanks to Rove for allowing the Bush name to be trashed from 2001 thru 2008, no one will touch it now. Of course, this is Bush’ fault too, all that new tone stuff.

www.gone2012book.com


16 posted on 11/12/2012 7:03:33 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright ("WTF?: How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost....Again")
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To: stanne

I find this entire fiasco of an election, a pseudo-president for the past 4 years, elected representatives who do nothing more than guarantee their own retirement/health benefits to be full of sh*t.

NOTHING but more cr*p from politicians.

Where ARE our leaders?

WHAT is being done?

Rhetoric and more rhetoric...

NOTHING.


17 posted on 11/12/2012 7:05:31 PM PST by lyby ("Mathematics is the language with which God has written the universe." ~ Galileo Galilei)
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To: Avid Coug

what is rather ironic is those phones are BUSH phones.


18 posted on 11/12/2012 7:07:17 PM PST by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: entropy12

The GOP in the House should step aside and give Obama his entire economic agenda. Let the tax cuts expire and watch the chips fall where they may.

The voters wanted this socialistic mess. They are clamoring for the government to take charge of their lives. So, let`s give it to them... all of it.


19 posted on 11/12/2012 7:24:09 PM PST by ScottinVA (I've never been more disgusted with American voters.)
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To: elpinta
Watch The Economic Presentation in 8 Parts here:

http://barnhardt.biz

Highly recommended. I watched the whole thing last night. You can also get it straight from Youtube.

20 posted on 11/12/2012 7:32:21 PM PST by Disambiguator (Choose wisely.)
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To: Disambiguator

Whoops, time for a new tagline.


21 posted on 11/12/2012 7:44:05 PM PST by Disambiguator (America chose...poorly.)
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To: Avid Coug
You have succinctly written the post of the month. I agree with you 110+%. The democrats start the day after the election and are relentless. They get in front of the camera and heap scorn on anything that moves. It is completely factless, but it doesn't matter.

Who can forget Pelosi holding her news conferences on Fridays after the monthly unemployment numbers are released and with great indignation talk about the continuing high unemployment and misery in the country and what few jobs are created are hamburger flipper jobs. Of course, unemployment was at 4.5%.

The democrats do it with a straight face and with the help of the media. They are patient, it took 6 years of constant attacks on Bush, but they finally succeeded. They are relentless, humorless and are on a mission and nothing stops them.

Republicans can't wait to either say nothing or make small talk and mention how the democrat politicians are really warm once you get to know them.

I'm certain the democrats talk amongst themselves how the republicans never catch on.

22 posted on 11/12/2012 7:58:46 PM PST by Dave W
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To: Disambiguator
I've got the shirt...


23 posted on 11/12/2012 8:09:42 PM PST by null and void (America - Abducted by Aliens...)
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To: ScottinVA

That may turn out to be the only smart strategy by GOP. Better to endure pain for 4 years than 8 or 16 years or more.


24 posted on 11/12/2012 8:27:22 PM PST by entropy12 (3 new SCOTUS appointments by Obama will ensure killing of unborn for next 30 years)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

How do you challenge the folly of the left when MSM will not broadcast it? 90%+ of MSM critters are lefty liberals.

But there are ways to get in the face of MSM, it just takes big brass ones. Only Newt and Cain showed some of it, but both did not win primaries.


25 posted on 11/12/2012 8:32:34 PM PST by entropy12 (3 new SCOTUS appointments by Obama will ensure killing of unborn for next 30 years)
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To: tennmountainman

Unfortunately you are right. Wiemar Germany, Soviet Russia, Mao’s China, Nehru’s India, Peron’s Argentina, etc etc all went through the pain and finally realized folly of socialism and have now made a turn towards capitalism.


26 posted on 11/12/2012 8:35:17 PM PST by entropy12 (3 new SCOTUS appointments by Obama will ensure killing of unborn for next 30 years)
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To: entropy12

We can’t control the MSM, but we can control whether or not we fight hard or not. We largely have not in most elections. In those where we have, we win. History is crystal clear on that.

BTW you’ll like this:
www.gone2012book.com


27 posted on 11/12/2012 8:37:00 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright ("WTF?: How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost....Again")
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To: tennmountainman

-— the only outcome left is a collapse. -—

Yup. So how will that play out? I’ll be watching Greece, Spain and Italy.


28 posted on 11/12/2012 8:38:16 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: entropy12

They can and they will to their groupies and the groupies will believe it.


29 posted on 11/12/2012 8:39:40 PM PST by sport
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To: entropy12
They can and they will to their groupies and the groupies will believe it.

If the Americans were smarter than the Greeks, the muslim would not be occupying the White House.

30 posted on 11/12/2012 8:41:36 PM PST by sport
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To: DEADROCK

They are going to blame the obstructionist Republican House.

Crap, they blamed the Republicans all during the 1st 2 years when they had super majority and they couldn’t even get all the Dems to vote for their crappy agenda.


31 posted on 11/12/2012 9:17:29 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: entropy12

How do you challenge the folly of the left when MSM will not broadcast it? 90%+ of MSM critters are lefty liberals.

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Start one person at a time on your block, in your neighborhood, just be a good neighbor and work in a little refutation and information of the real facts as you go. Don’t do it all at once. Pick an issue a week or so.

Sit down and make a list up of 250 names of people you know. Pick 25 to start with. Once they are on board, get them started too.

If this is going to be done, it will have to be at the grassroots level going up so that people are better informed.

If you have a few hours per month, run and become a precinct captain. You’ll get to vote for GOP leadership and people will ask your opinion with respect to candidates.

Maybe write letters to your newspaper. Listen to Reagan’s speeches - they have a great answere as to why the nanny state doesn’t work, and all with a positive attitude.


32 posted on 11/12/2012 9:33:03 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

The movie “Idiocracy” seems not so fictional now.


33 posted on 11/12/2012 9:40:40 PM PST by bicyclerepair ( >-> Zombies eat brains. >-> 50% of FL is safe.)
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To: elpinta

Post that every day. I watched all 8 yesterday and they each were more intense as they went on. Well worth the time. Smart lady gives a lot of good information about the financial cliff that we went off 30 years ago. We’re just getting ready to splat like a bug on a windshield.
SJB


34 posted on 11/12/2012 10:26:10 PM PST by sanjuanbob
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To: bicyclerepair

The movie “Idiocracy” seems not so fictional now.

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Everday feels like a fictional nightmare to me. Trouble is it’s real.


35 posted on 11/12/2012 10:40:13 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: entropy12

“If life for most Americans is not better in 2016, the tiger will devour the democrats in 2016, if not sooner in 2014.”

I fear you are wrong, chum. The tiger will devour us all.


36 posted on 11/12/2012 10:42:23 PM PST by RinaseaofDs (United States of America - the Empty Oak on the Hill)
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To: cherry
we have to realistically question whether we'll ever have real, free elections again...

As long as we have voting machines, secret ballots and no paper trails, we will get whomever they choose.

37 posted on 11/13/2012 12:39:15 AM PST by itsahoot (Any enemy, that is allowed to have a King's X line, is undefeatable. (USS Taluga AO-62))
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To: RinaseaofDs

Human nature says that the mob will first attack those who tried to tell it “No”. Then it will turn on its masters.

Most human interactions are similar to what an average three year old does. Don’t expect logic to trump emotion.

Try to change one person at a time. But be aware that making them recognize what is going on may provoke an angry reaction.

Most don’t want to know.


38 posted on 11/13/2012 8:50:26 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: entropy12
If we're wrong, and the election turns into a Clinton era boom, we would have no trouble with being wrong.

Clinton had his feet held to the fire and passed welfare reform and cut capital gains rates. Demoncrats are running wildly in the opposite direction.

39 posted on 11/13/2012 9:11:22 AM PST by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: tennmountainman
Since these DC hacks are unwilling or incapable of dealing with the tough Choices, the only outcome left is a collapse.

The choices then become either Greece or Argentina.

40 posted on 11/13/2012 9:20:43 AM PST by COBOL2Java (The GOP-e said "Beat a Marxist with a Liberal!" What a colossal blunder.)
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To: entropy12
They might. And yet they might not. Conservatism is the only answer and the only remedy that has never been truly tried.
41 posted on 11/13/2012 9:22:13 AM PST by Colonel_Flagg ("Don't be afraid to see what you see." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: entropy12
A large portion of the public truly believes that Democrat policies will right the ship. They might. And yet they might not.

They won't. They never have. And they never will.

Conservatism is the only remedy, and the only remedy that has never been truly tried.

42 posted on 11/13/2012 9:24:14 AM PST by Colonel_Flagg ("Don't be afraid to see what you see." -- Ronald Reagan)
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