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Alert: Immigration sellout underway?
Daily Caller ^ | Mickey Kaus

Posted on 11/12/2012 7:57:21 PM PST by Arthurio

Alert! The entire GOP elite seems to be trying to sell out en masse on immigration. Not only Boehner, but Cantor. And Hannity (who works for pro-amnesty world citizen Rupert Murdoch). Even Krauthammer. …

Maybe these people are convinced the larger GOP project can be saved simply by caving on just this one issue. That seems cracked. The bulk of the Hispanic electorate appears to instinctively vote Democratic, and not just because of immigration. (“[T]his is just a fairly liberal voting block.”) Maybe they can be wooed over to the Republican side over the course of decades. But by then there will be another wave of new, instinctively Democratic illegal immigrants (lured by the Boehner Amnesty) for Dems to appeal to. And the idea that the GOPs don’t have to change any of their other ideas if only they appease this one ethnic group (making up 10% of the electorate) is highly questionable, as David Frum has argued. … There were plenty of other reasons why Romney lost. (If he’d gotten McCain’s share of the Latino vote … he still would have lost.)

The larger point is that “Comprehensive Immigration Reform”–which is supposed to be a simultaneous combination of an amnesty plus enforcement measures–is a terrible idea. It’s a terrible idea if it helps the Republican Party win national elections or if it hurts them..** As with the 1986 “comprehensive” reform, we will get the amnesty but not the enforcement–after the ACLU and Chamber of Commerce are through undermining it in the courts, and the Obama Justice Department is through undermining it in practice. The result will be (as in 1986) a new wave of illegal immigrants, largely unskilled, who will bid down the wages of the Americans and legal immigrants at the bottom of the labor market.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: amnesty; immigration

1 posted on 11/12/2012 7:57:26 PM PST by Arthurio
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To: Arthurio

Of course the GOP will cave. They look forward to 20 million new illegal alien voters pouring over the borders.


2 posted on 11/12/2012 8:00:27 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Arthurio

Yep. They will cave on this and many many things. *sigh*


3 posted on 11/12/2012 8:04:13 PM PST by RIghtwardHo
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To: Arthurio

How could you think otherwise! Of course the GOP will fold just as they will do on Taxes and everything else. Still wonder why we vote for these scoundrels? I sure do!


4 posted on 11/12/2012 8:05:37 PM PST by Deagle (quo)
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To: Arthurio
I wonder if the GOP pundits & moderate politicians will finally shut the hell up after they realize that all they've accomplished with their 'hispanic outreach' program is another 10, 20, 30 million clients of the state & loyal democrat voters and put all but the local offices buried deep in red states totally out of their reach evermore.

Probably not.

5 posted on 11/12/2012 8:07:06 PM PST by skeeter
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To: GeronL

The way I see it, the Democrats want the votes, while the GOP wants to keep their business interests happy with cheap labor (see: the founder of Central Market, who is a Republican and a big amnesty advocate).


6 posted on 11/12/2012 8:07:12 PM PST by Rastus
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To: Deagle

“Still wonder why we vote for these scoundrels?”

Yes. I wonder why we PAY THEIR SALARIES!


7 posted on 11/12/2012 8:11:09 PM PST by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: Rastus

Big Business loves Democrats, maybe the GOP should check where these corporations donate their “charity”?


8 posted on 11/12/2012 8:11:36 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Arthurio

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLgTX3AsnE0&feature=youtu.be


9 posted on 11/12/2012 8:14:51 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: GeronL

“They look forward to 20 million new illegal alien voters pouring over the borders.”

And will be absolutely shocked when 95% of them vote for Democrats. The GOP leadership is the walking definition of stupid.


10 posted on 11/12/2012 8:15:11 PM PST by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: Arthurio

The GOP and Rove have concluded that to gain power, the future lies
with illegals, not conservatives.. The keyword in my post is power,
Not principal.


11 posted on 11/12/2012 8:15:29 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: Arthurio

I tire of just how stupid some people are, the republican leadership NEVER cave, EVER, they are ALL members of the New World Order which will bring in the one world government. They will do whatever their masters demand, and we are not their masters.

So, be quite, do what you are told, you are only slaves to the collective.

Soon they will require our firearms, many will comply. Some will need to be re-educated at FEMA camps, those who refuse to change will disappear.

It is happening here!


12 posted on 11/12/2012 8:15:49 PM PST by stockpirate (Democrrats stole the election via fraud, we will never have a free election again.)
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To: Arthurio

Why have two parties at all?


13 posted on 11/12/2012 8:15:57 PM PST by Tzimisce (Will there be anything to fight for in 2016?)
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To: Arthurio

Fact, we would not have a Hispanic voter problem if our voting system was not corrupt. It’s the illegal Hispanic’s that are voting Dem that’s the problem. Clean out the corruption ...PROBLEM SOLVED.

And if it’s not corrected before 2014, we’ll lose the House of Representatives too. Then what??


14 posted on 11/12/2012 8:17:23 PM PST by Ms Mable
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To: Arthurio

A conservative third party is the only answer. Why? Because if the Republican party splits between conservatives and corporatists, the Democratic Party will soon splinter shortly thereafter, and there are many more interest groups housed under the Democrat tent. Then, like Europe, we’ll have multiple parties with conservatives being the largest.


15 posted on 11/12/2012 8:18:35 PM PST by paglia444
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To: Arthurio

Stupid GOP.

Always trying to beat the Stupid Dems in the Darwinian Race to Oblivion.

You cant fix Stupid, they say.


16 posted on 11/12/2012 8:19:20 PM PST by Gasshog
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To: Rastus

Kind of a funny comment - have you seen where Apple has most of their business overseas (ie. very low paid workers) - for cheap labor and tax purposes? I’m sure that almost all businesses you could name do the same. Wonder why?

Could it really be that only the Republican businesses are looking for cost reductions? Could it be that Democrats also do the same? Could this be a non-issue when comparing parties?

Sometimes I just think that it does not matter any more. Too many idiots believe both the MSM or the politicians of their flavor. We have no chance - it’s all about who can promise the most to the most. Might as well just give up and apply for government benefits.


17 posted on 11/12/2012 8:20:13 PM PST by Deagle (quo)
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To: Arthurio

Ronald Reagan actually gave Latinos amnesty, but this didn’t exactly sew up their vote. It won’t now either.


18 posted on 11/12/2012 8:26:33 PM PST by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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To: Deagle

Well, perhaps I should say the chief benefit the Republicans see is cheap labor, because they aren’t going to get their votes. They may think they will.


19 posted on 11/12/2012 8:27:17 PM PST by Rastus
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To: Arthurio

I wouldn’t mind them selling out if they put in ironclad laws:
Create a Path to Citizenship for all Illegal Immigrants past and future with these requirements:
1. Non-Citizens will not be Eligible for any government assistance
2. Illegals have a 10 year waiting period to become a citizen, but they will be issued a Yellow Card Work Permit during this 10 Year Waiting Period.
3. After becoming a citizen, they will have to wait another 5 years and pay a fine prior to being able to collect government benefits.
4. Government Assistance Restrictions apply to anyone who is claimed as a dependent of an illegal immigrant.
5. You can not claim dependents that live outside the United States if you are an Illegal Immigrant.

What else would you want on the wish list? With this, they should get literally anything they want. All they have to do is ask, no need to make it acceptable to the Dems, in fact ..... all the better.


20 posted on 11/12/2012 8:28:02 PM PST by dila813
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To: dila813

Arthurio, all of those conditions will be challenged in the NInth Circuit and struck down. You do realize this? Then we’re stuck with the immigrants and none of the conditions. The courts won’t let us revoke amnesty, and neither would the Democrats.


21 posted on 11/12/2012 8:29:44 PM PST by paglia444
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To: Arthurio

The offer should be exactly as Rush said:

“OK...you guys can ALL come in and be totally LEGAL, but ya can’t vote for 25 years...”

—Screeeech..! Crash...!—

My addition: And ya can’t collect any time of social spending.

Seriously —let’s call their bluff..! They do NOT really want to simply take these people in —they DO NOT want that.

They want something ELSE, and it’s not compassion.


22 posted on 11/12/2012 8:34:47 PM PST by gaijin
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To: umgud

I’ve said it again and again. We’re NEVER going to win the majority of the THIRD WORLD. Why? Because countries like Mexico have governments that don’t even provide basic security to their people, making the prospect of cradle-to-grave care in the USA even more attractive. Illegals do not need to be “won over”. They need to be DEPORTED. If they want a better life, here’s an idea. Get into Mexican politics, begin a populist movement, and try and clean up your crappy country so that people WANT to live there. Instead of breaking the law to achieve the ‘American dream’, why not try to build the ‘Mexican dream’?

The GOP-E is about to lose at least 1/3 of their entire base. IDIOTS!!!!!!!!!!!1


23 posted on 11/12/2012 8:36:04 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: umgud

I’ve said it again and again. We’re NEVER going to win the majority of the THIRD WORLD. Why? Because countries like Mexico have governments that don’t even provide basic security to their people, making the prospect of cradle-to-grave care in the USA even more attractive. Illegals do not need to be “won over”. They need to be DEPORTED. If they want a better life, here’s an idea. Get into Mexican politics, begin a populist movement, and try and clean up your crappy country so that people WANT to live there. Instead of breaking the law to achieve the ‘American dream’, why not try to build the ‘Mexican dream’?

The GOP-E is about to lose at least 1/3 of their entire base. IDIOTS!!!!!!!!!!!1


24 posted on 11/12/2012 8:37:28 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: Rastus

Sorry, no dice... You sir have been stigmatized by both the media and the Democrats. That’s okay though, it usually only lasts a generation or so.

Seriously, you either are not being serious or you have been brainwashed a bit somewhere along the line. Do you really see Republicans as looking for cheap labor but not the same for Democrats or Democratic businessmen? Are you really sure about that? Do you not think that folks running a business do not look for labor expenses as a major part of their job? Don’t you actually think that politics has very little to do with it?

Let me tell you a secret..heh. All businesses try to reduce labor costs and moving overseas is a tried and true remedy. Why - well, just look around at the labor union costs. Could that be a problem?

Actually, you are one of the few that at least come out and identify yourself without understanding the problem (yes, that means you are a bit uneducated - certainly in the field of finance). Not a great thing but at least you had the courage to state your case. It was certainly not presented with any authority but you did at least have the conviction to put it in the public arena. Now you have to live with it!


25 posted on 11/12/2012 8:40:57 PM PST by Deagle (quo)
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To: Arthurio; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; NFHale; Impy; ...
Alert! The entire GOP elite seems to be trying to sell out en masse on immigration. Not only Boehner, but Cantor. And Hannity (who works for pro-amnesty world citizen Rupert Murdoch). Even Krauthammer.”

Was Hannity against amnesty in 2006 under GWB ? Any of these a surprise?

Given GWB success at this in 2007 expect another GOP meltdown leaving everyone mad at them again.

26 posted on 11/12/2012 8:57:37 PM PST by sickoflibs (How long before cry-Bohner caves to O again? They took the House for what?)
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To: gaijin

They would take that and then once they’re all in, they would find a judge to opine that it is an unconstitutional violation of their civil rights to deny them the franchise, and Chief Justice Roberts will agree!


27 posted on 11/12/2012 9:02:20 PM PST by Behind the Blue Wall
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To: dila813

Add:
All employers must pay illegal workers the going union pay scales and provide all benefits and health insurance.


28 posted on 11/12/2012 9:08:42 PM PST by oldbill
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To: hosepipe
This is all you need to know.
29 posted on 11/12/2012 9:23:10 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpAOwJvTOio)
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To: Arthurio

We can send them an engraved invitation to US citizenship and it will still be 20 million new Dem voters.


30 posted on 11/12/2012 9:28:37 PM PST by jch10 (7th generation Floridian)
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To: Ms Mable

I believe you are on to something. 2014-2016 could spell the end.


31 posted on 11/12/2012 9:51:07 PM PST by sanjuanbob
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To: Arthurio

The only strategy the Republican leadership knows — preemptive surrender.


32 posted on 11/12/2012 10:03:55 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: paglia444

Well, Add another condition, if for any reason any section of this law is stuck down, all illegal immigrants citizenship and work visas are revoked.

My point though, is really if the Democrats want this so bad, then make sure it is a poison pill.


33 posted on 11/12/2012 10:23:57 PM PST by dila813
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To: Arthurio

there are no jobs so no they won’t take jobs. what they will take is every government handout they can.


34 posted on 11/12/2012 11:44:49 PM PST by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: GeronL

Uhh... They’re already here.


35 posted on 11/13/2012 12:13:08 AM PST by Eagles6 (DNC 2012 Convention: Celebrating infanticide and sodomy. Denying God.What could possibly go wrong?)
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To: Viennacon
Yep. I believe that Bush didn't send them back was fear of civil war in Mexico because they couldn't provide for the influx of new mouths to feed, coupled with loss of the country's greatest source of income, remittances from the US.

Well guess what? We're on the verge of civil war here stemming partially from the debt accrued by taking care of these parasites

36 posted on 11/13/2012 12:36:13 AM PST by Eagles6 (DNC 2012 Convention: Celebrating infanticide and sodomy. Denying God.What could possibly go wrong?)
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To: Eagles6

Amnesty will kill off the Republican Party for years to come. The odds of recovering from it will be minimal.


37 posted on 11/13/2012 5:18:39 AM PST by flaglady47 (When the gov't fears the people, liberty; When the people fear the gov't, tyranny.)
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To: dila813

No deals. Illegals are criminals. You don’t get a reward for being a criminal.


38 posted on 11/13/2012 7:11:42 AM PST by MaxFlint
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To: All
We must factor in Mexican agit/prop put out by La Raza and the Fifth Column---numerous groups infiltrating the US---- organized to push the Third World agenda.

The conniving, wily latinos know their extortionate demands will be met----but only when vote-crazed politicans clobberd by pressure groups----accede to Mexican demands.

Mexico is pushing north at a furious space---salivating for reconquista and lusting after foreign aid billions---throwing its "pressure groups" over the border--- financing and coaching their fifth column invasion of US borders.

The wailing and whining propaganda-----"just here for a better life, to do jobs Americanos won't do"---is designed for bleeding heart sap-happy liberals.....and vote-crazed US politicians.

===================================================

HYPHENATE PRICE TAG---the price we are paying so that vote-crazed Obama and other desperate pols can get re/elected.

NOTE Conniving pols bury these programs within other programs making them difficult to find. Americans have been hammered with govt propaganda that it was the Iraq war and the war on terror that is bankrupting the US. Here’s the real reasons:

1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year by state governments.
Verify at: http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServer?pagename=iic_immigrationissuecenters7fd8

2. $22 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens.
Verify at: http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.HTML

3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens.
Verify at: http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.HTML

4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary & secondary education for children here illegally and [usually] cannot speak a word of English.
Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANscriptS/0604/01/ldt....0.HTML

5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies (or as Terry Anderson says “JACKPOT” babies!)
Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANscriptS/0604/01/ldt.01.HTML

6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens.
Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/ %20TRANscriptS/0604/01/ldt.01.HTML

7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens.
Verify at: http://transcripts.CNN..com/TRANscriptS/0604/01/ldt...01.HTML

8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare & socialservices by the American taxpayers.
Verify at: http://premium.cnn..com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01..HTML

9. $200 Billion dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens.
Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRI

10. In 2006, illegals sent $45 BILLION in remittances to their countries of origin.
Verify at: http://www/..rense.com/general75/niht.htm

11. The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One million sex crimes committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States.
Verify at: http: // www.drdsk.com/articleshtml

The total cost is a whopping $ 338.3 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR WHICH WOULD BE ENOUGH TO STIMULATE THE ECONOMY FOR THE CITIZENS OF OUR COUNTRY.

PLUS!

1. The Earned Income Credit...money people get back on their taxes that they NEVER paid into in the first place! Illegal aliens, most of which pay zero in net taxes, enjoyed $4.2 billion from the Additional Child Tax Credit (ACTC) last year. That’s more than the annual revenue from the selected oil tax deductions and corporate jet deductions combined!
Verify at: http://www.redstate.com/dhorowitz3/2011/09/02/illegal-aliens-receive-4-2-billion-in-additional-child-tax-credits/

2. The cost of prosecuting and making SURE the “rights” of illegals are protected by US laws madefor US citizens. In 2009, the U.S. Justice Dept filed nearly 92,000 pro-immigrant-related criminal cases in the federal courts. The record-breaker accounted for more than half of all new federal prosecutions, according to data maintained at Syracuse University.
Verify at: http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/search?q=federal+court+cases

39 posted on 11/13/2012 7:19:50 AM PST by Liz ("Come quickly, I'm tasting the stars," Dom Perignon)
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To: Arthurio

If you are a republican you can always count on one thing. Your leadership will sell you down the river at the drop of a hat to maintain their own cushy jobs.


40 posted on 11/13/2012 7:29:54 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Arthurio

Amnesty for votes,the logic must be if the crime rate increases we can hire more police that way we put more people to work.
It looks like we no longer have a gov we only have greed.


41 posted on 11/13/2012 7:55:08 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: flaglady47

Exactly. We have to let our representatives know that if they vote for this their cushy jobs are over .


42 posted on 11/13/2012 2:21:54 PM PST by Eagles6 (DNC 2012 Convention: Celebrating infanticide and sodomy. Denying God.What could possibly go wrong?)
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