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Motor Trend's Car of the Year: Tesla Model S [All Electric]
CNN ^ | November 12, 2012 | Peter Valdes-Dapena

Posted on 11/13/2012 6:20:23 AM PST by SoFloFreeper

Motor Trend magazine has named the Tesla Model S its Car of the Year. The magazine's staff selected the all-electric plug-in luxury car out of a field of 11 finalists that included models such as the Ford Fusion, Porsche 911 and Hyundai Azera.

It is the first time the magazine's Car of the Year award has ever gone to an all-electric car.

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Don't know much about cars.. What do the rest of you think?
1 posted on 11/13/2012 6:20:30 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

OK, who paid who off and/or, did Bammy twist someone’s arm?


2 posted on 11/13/2012 6:23:16 AM PST by Nowhere Man (Whitey, I miss you so much. Take care, pretty girl. (4-15-2001 - 10-12-2012))
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To: SoFloFreeper

Car of the Year is like Time’s Person of the Year. It’s become a joke with clear political motivations. So a car that’s barely sold and has a range of 120 miles for $59k is better than the new Ford Fusion? No.


3 posted on 11/13/2012 6:23:52 AM PST by paul544
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To: Nowhere Man

Doesn’t it catch on fire occasionally for no reason?


4 posted on 11/13/2012 6:24:24 AM PST by TigerClaws
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To: SoFloFreeper
Don't know much about cars..

Neither does Motor Trend.

5 posted on 11/13/2012 6:24:59 AM PST by ILS21R
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To: SoFloFreeper
Did you ever own, or give as a gift, a model train set?

Multiply every problem (the most important was a firm foundation NObody could touch), by about 20.


THAT'S the electric car in modern society ... unless modern society is now a genteeler kind of humanity.

Big block eights mean testosterone ... LOTS of it.

Take away the big 8 and you castrate a man.

6 posted on 11/13/2012 6:25:27 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: TigerClaws

C’mon... Motor Trend doesn’t care about your car blowing up. They want to be socially responsible. 2011 Car of the Year: Chevy Volt. Nuff said.


7 posted on 11/13/2012 6:27:00 AM PST by paul544
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To: SoFloFreeper

I think they should send a bunch of these wonderful vehicles to Long Island to replace all the cars that were lost to Sandy. They would be perfect because there has been a shortage of gas .... just plug them in and .... oh wait .....


8 posted on 11/13/2012 6:27:26 AM PST by MissMagnolia ("It is when a people forget God that tyrants forge their chains" - Patrick Henry)
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To: SoFloFreeper

It makes an okay hobby car. Time off of the line is exceptional. This is Motor Trend, not Consumer Reports. After some early transmission issues this one seems to perform better and more reliably than the Volt, and is more reliable than the higher performance Fisker Karma.

It couldn’t possibly be used as a first car, but for those who have the dough, it could be a fun third car.


9 posted on 11/13/2012 6:28:11 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Teslas run on sunlight...

http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-09-25/tesla-fires-up-solar-powered-charging-stations


10 posted on 11/13/2012 6:28:38 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Cut the cable today!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

OK but I’d still take the 911.


11 posted on 11/13/2012 6:30:35 AM PST by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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To: Fresh Wind
Teslas run on sunlight...

..and moonbeams! (... and don't forget the unicorns!)


12 posted on 11/13/2012 6:31:40 AM PST by WVKayaker ("Mitt Romney couldn't keep up with lies and spin of Barack Obama" - Sarah Palin 10/24)
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To: showme_the_Glory

I own one.
It’s more fun than just about anything on 4 wheels.


13 posted on 11/13/2012 6:32:20 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (In the game of life, there are no betting limits)
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To: SoFloFreeper

The problem with the culture pushing alternative energy too soon, before it is ready, is that when it does become relevent the poison pill has already been swallowed.


14 posted on 11/13/2012 6:33:19 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: SoFloFreeper
At $100 grand, this car will be in every driveway, carport and garage! /S

(Don't forget the $7500 credit (our money) for this commoner's car!)

15 posted on 11/13/2012 6:33:34 AM PST by Bushbacker1 (I miss President Bush! 2012 - The End Of An Error! (Oathkeeper))
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To: SoFloFreeper
Magazines go down hill when the biggest advertiser controls the content of the projected information (i. e. Microsoft and Ziff Davis). It kills the publication. Now the government controls them.
16 posted on 11/13/2012 6:34:46 AM PST by bmwcyle (Women reelected Obama)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Some thinks never change....


17 posted on 11/13/2012 6:35:40 AM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's bankruptcy: 2016)
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To: SoFloFreeper

“Model S ranges from $50,000 for a car that can go 160 miles on a charge to almost $100,000 for a richly equipped model that can go 300 miles. It went into production this summer, and by the beginning of October Tesla said it had sold about 250 Model S sedans.”

This is a politically correct choice with no basis in reality. The sales of “about” 250 cars were probably to rich liberals who don’t even drive it.

Has anyone ever seen a Tesla on the road? The car was built with taxpayer money and no intelligent person would pay for it with their own money. I believe the company is going bankrupt while the company owners pocket taxpayer subsidies.


18 posted on 11/13/2012 6:38:48 AM PST by detective
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To: Nowhere Man

This is one of Obama-lover Elon Musk’s projects, taxpayer-subsidized, like his SpaceX stuff.


19 posted on 11/13/2012 6:39:31 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Tell us more! How long have you had it, do you have the S model, how long does it take to charge, acceleration,etc


20 posted on 11/13/2012 6:42:35 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: SoFloFreeper
It is the first time the magazine's Car of the Year award has ever gone to an all-electric car.

which almost no one can afford and here in the west will not even make it between towns on one charge.

21 posted on 11/13/2012 6:45:07 AM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: SoFloFreeper

The Tesla Model S that burst into flames when flooded with salt water? That Tesla?


22 posted on 11/13/2012 6:48:26 AM PST by 5thGenTexan
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To: Mamzelle

‘02 911 Carerra coupe. Seal gray/black leather. AC, sunroof, 18” mags.
16,700 miles when I bought it from an American Airlines pilot this past spring.

320 horsepower (I’m doubtful it makes 320 since 91 octane is all that is available here) but it still has plenty of scat. Rear tires had been replaced at about 12,000.

I’d been looking for a very good example without 4 WD and no turbo. Original owner looking at his airline job turning upside down and had to sell his dream car.


23 posted on 11/13/2012 6:51:57 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (In the game of life, there are no betting limits)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Since it’s one of the most expensive cars out there, then no. It’ll go 160 miles on a charge which is better than other electric cars but still has the same problems. As with any “your mileage may vary”, I wouldn’t trust it getting me much more than 100 miles down the road and then without the lights or A/C turned on. Sure it seats as many people as an SUV if those 7 people didn’t weigh more than 90 pounds each. Ok, I’ll play... me, my better half, the 4 kids and dog are headed over the hills and through the woods to grandmother’s house for Christmas and granny lives 1000 miles away. So, say we have to stop 9 times to recharge it and it takes 3.5 hours to charge with a special docking doo hickey, how many days will it take before Suzy breaks down into a flood of tears, Billy shoves Betty Ann out the door as we’re going 85 (um, 93 to keep up with the traffic on Texas’ new high speed highway). Little Kerry gets bored and pulls the dog’s tail 56 times causing the dog to bite him on the 57th time. And my better half found a divorce attorney at the 4th recharge stop when the special docking doo hickey broke upping the recharge time to 8 hours.


24 posted on 11/13/2012 6:51:57 AM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

If it’s a good car and a good idea, it will sell.

I have a family member that wanted to buy solar panels, very liberal. I basically told him if they were such a good idea, they would be on every other house here in FL, so I’m not sure they’d be profitable in the north.

Here in the sunshine state very few houses have them, which makes me think they just aren’t as wonderful as touted.

I have a family member who is a mechanic, he’s intrigued by these cars, but wonders how safe they really can be. They carry a HUGE amount of electricity, much more than people realize. The PC correctness of the media makes him concerned that even if bad things happen they may not be printed.


25 posted on 11/13/2012 6:54:15 AM PST by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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The Tesla Model S that burst into flames when flooded with salt water? That Tesla?

No, it was Fiskers that burst into flames. That's not to say that a Tesla wouldn't do that, but I'm not aware of any than have been flooded.

26 posted on 11/13/2012 6:54:25 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Cut the cable today!)
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To: nascarnation

That is just as funny as can be.


27 posted on 11/13/2012 6:56:29 AM PST by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Are we talking about a Porsche?


28 posted on 11/13/2012 6:58:07 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: SoFloFreeper; All

http://jalopnik.com/5887265/tesla-motors-devastating-design-problem


29 posted on 11/13/2012 6:59:19 AM PST by detective
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To: Mamzelle

Yup.


30 posted on 11/13/2012 7:04:32 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (In the game of life, there are no betting limits)
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To: I still care; Alberta's Child
Solar panels--interesting discussion...

It all depends on how you look at them. If you pay a lot in income taxes, the tax credit is handsome. If you're handy, you can do a lot of the installation yourself and save thousands.

Where I think people get off the mark is when they say things like "it'll take years to make back your money." That is certainly true.

Lets just use $25K as a variable up-front cost by way of illustration. What else are you going to do with the money? Suppose you buy blue chip stock X that pays dividends. You don't get a tax credit for that. Right off the bat, you are out, say, by way of illustration $10K. Your investment in the panels is really $15K.

You have to pay taxes on that dividend. Do you worry about how long you will take to "make back your money" on stock X?

The dividend on X is less than what you start getting every month from not having to pay for home electricity. And you don't have to pay tax on that, so you are really "making" 25% more every month.

Now, if you had to pay for electricity, you must pay for it with after-tax dollars. Add another 25%. (all these figures are just for illustration.)

You are always going to want to be comfortable in your own home, so you might look at it as a retirement investment.

Solar panels are a fantastic deal, at least until 2016 when the credit wears out. And the panels are sinking rapidly in cost.

I think you don't see them in FL because solar panels are a big upfront expense for those with a long term vision. We know that there aren't many people like that around. And solar panels work very well in cold weather.

31 posted on 11/13/2012 7:08:59 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: paul544

And Osama Bin Laden was Time’s Choice in 2001.


32 posted on 11/13/2012 7:08:59 AM PST by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

I thought you had a Tesla.


33 posted on 11/13/2012 7:09:50 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: I still care

Oh, and I am NOT green. I don’t buy into that co2 crap. But can you think of a better investment in retirement if you expect to stay in your home? A *safe* investment, since the electricity generated does not vary with the market.


34 posted on 11/13/2012 7:15:26 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Mamzelle

Naah !


35 posted on 11/13/2012 7:20:26 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (In the game of life, there are no betting limits)
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To: nascarnation

The Vega was a pretty good car after you replaced the engine and transmission with one out of a wrecked Camaro.


36 posted on 11/13/2012 7:25:21 AM PST by logitech (Who's here so vile, that will not love his country? If any speak, for him I have offended)
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To: logitech

LOL assuming it was in a desert climate.
Mine had the fenders and cowl rust thru in 18 months in Cleveland.

Front brake problems.
Head gasket blew.
Rear differential bearings failed.
Valve stem seals got hard, sucked oil like crazy.


37 posted on 11/13/2012 7:28:33 AM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's bankruptcy: 2016)
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To: detective
I have never seen a Telsa on the road. I have only seen a single Volt and I drive a minimum of 66 miles a day on the freeway. I am beginning to see the new Ford Fusion (37MPG) and the Ford C-Max (47MPG).
38 posted on 11/13/2012 7:28:45 AM PST by Gabrial (The nightmare will continue as long as the nightmare is in the Whitehouse.)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Good cars...the ones that don't spontaneously erupt into flames. Oh! and if you have an extra hundred thou laying around!!
39 posted on 11/13/2012 7:32:18 AM PST by ontap
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To: SoFloFreeper

This is nothing but PC nonsense... its a fun toy, but as others have stated, it costs 60k and can only go 120 miles at best before needed to be plugged back in.

This is not remotely the best care of the year.. this was political correct nonsense.


40 posted on 11/13/2012 7:33:49 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: nascarnation

I remember the Vega. Not a bad-looking car, but an engineering disaster. Plus they rusted quickly.

Funny how you don’t see many on the road today.


41 posted on 11/13/2012 7:35:18 AM PST by Disambiguator (America chose...poorly.)
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To: Gabrial

Someone in my area apparently bought a Leaf recently, I’ve seen it several times.

One of the ugliest cars ever made. It has a big graphic on the side proclaiming its “zero emission” claim.

Liberals are so stupid, they actually believe that.


42 posted on 11/13/2012 8:01:11 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Cut the cable today!)
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To: SoFloFreeper
How cute of them to choose something that can no longer be produced because the battery producer has gone belly up.

MT has been pushing electric and hybrid for some time now. I no longer bother to read it.

43 posted on 11/13/2012 8:05:07 AM PST by Pecos (Double tap: the only acceptable gun control)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Well, at least it’s American made and the govt is not subsidizing them.


44 posted on 11/13/2012 8:43:23 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog; All

Wrong.. We are subsidizing it..


45 posted on 11/13/2012 9:35:01 AM PST by KevinDavis (And you, be ye fruitful, and multiply; bring forth abundantly in the earth, and multiply therein.)
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To: nascarnation

L M A O !!!!!!!!


46 posted on 11/13/2012 9:45:27 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker ((God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.))
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To: nascarnation

Yeah. Never leave home without a couple quarts of oil.


47 posted on 11/13/2012 10:01:10 AM PST by logitech (Who's here so vile, that will not love his country? If any speak, for him I have offended)
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To: KevinDavis

I see they got a $10 million grant from Kalifornia (like they can afford it).

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-10-11/tesla-gets-10-million-california-grant-for-electric-suv


48 posted on 11/13/2012 10:23:08 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
It’s more fun than just about anything on 4 wheels

I imagine it is a real thrill to own and drive just for fun.

However, how is it just for transportation?

Is it economical?
Is it insurable?
Is it comfortable?
Is it comfortable for a family?
Is the battery chargeable elsewhere than at home?
Is financing available?
Is it suitable for car-pooling?

In addition, the most important question of all. Will it get you laid? If so, is there room in the car?

49 posted on 11/13/2012 1:06:40 PM PST by MosesKnows
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To: MosesKnows
It is a Porsche 911 Carerra coupe.
Two seats. Room for two sacks of groceries behind the seats.
26 miles per gallon on premium gasoline. No electric motor. No charger needed.
Reasonably comfortable. Z rated tires are noisy.
No nookie.
50 posted on 11/13/2012 1:37:20 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (In the game of life, there are no betting limits)
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