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Beware: ObamaCare’s now reality
New York Post ^ | November 13, 2012 | BETSY McCAUGHEY

Posted on 11/13/2012 10:32:33 AM PST by Ooh-Ah

President Obama’s re-election and Democratic gains in the US Senate end any possibility of repealing the Obama health law. It will roll out as written, imposing major changes soon on you and your family. If you are uninsured because you can’t afford it, help may be on the way. But if you are one of the 250 million Americans with coverage, there are big problems ahead.

If you get your health insurance through a job, you might lose it as of Jan. 1, 2014. That’s when the new “employer mandate” kicks in, requiring employers with 50 or more full-time workers to provide the government-designed health plan or pay a fine. The government plan is so expensive, it adds $1.79 per hour to the cost of a full-time employee. That’s incidental if you're hiring neurosurgeons but a hefty increase for hiring busboys and sales clerks.

Currently, employers in retail and fast-food industries pay less than half that to cover their workers.To avoid thecostly mandate,some employers will push workers into part-time status. Other employers will opt for the fine. Either way, workers lose their on-the-job coverage.

Worse, they risklosingtheir jobs.Even the fine adds 98 cents an hour to the cost of labor, enough to make some employers cut back on their workforce.

As many as a third of employers are considering canceling coverage, according to McKinsey & Co. management consultants. But that doesn’t mean you’ll be uninsured; you won’t have that choice.

When you file your taxes, you will have to show proof that you are enrolled in the one-size-fits-all plan approved by the federal government. It’s mandatory, starting Jan. 1, 2014, or the IRS will withhold your refund....

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: audit; barrycares; healthcare; irs; obamacare

1 posted on 11/13/2012 10:32:38 AM PST by Ooh-Ah
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To: Ooh-Ah

Funny, you are telling everyone this now, Betsy.


2 posted on 11/13/2012 10:35:29 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Ooh-Ah

As if, it would have been different under Romney. We lost the fight against Obamacare in the primary.


3 posted on 11/13/2012 10:37:01 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: Ooh-Ah

We get it Betsey. We’re all wards of the state now...


4 posted on 11/13/2012 10:37:20 AM PST by subterfuge (************ Believe Barry Obama's Propaganda At Your Own Peril **************)
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To: Ooh-Ah


Enjoy your stay.
5 posted on 11/13/2012 10:40:24 AM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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6 posted on 11/13/2012 10:42:13 AM PST by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: Ooh-Ah
DO NOT COMPLY
7 posted on 11/13/2012 10:42:32 AM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: subterfuge

Haven’t had a refund in 20 years.


8 posted on 11/13/2012 10:45:21 AM PST by Renegade
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To: Ooh-Ah
In my book this is worse than taxation without representation, and warrants something drastic to be done if need be.

Regardless of whether or not Obama and his ilk stole this election, there was WAY too much FRAUD happening and that alone is a reason for, if need be extreme and forceful change according to COTUS.

Obama and his cohorts want to move "Forward," they're going to find out what moving forward really means!

9 posted on 11/13/2012 10:45:52 AM PST by sirchtruth (Freedom is not free.)
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To: freekitty

I’ve heard her on TV and on the radio discussing Obamacare a couple of times. I think she’s the only one that bothered to read the damn thing all the way through.


10 posted on 11/13/2012 10:46:47 AM PST by goldi
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To: freekitty

She has been AT THE FOREFRONT of this against Obamacare since the start

I watched her discuss for over an hour all the intimate details of Obamacare, and she said she could easily go on for another 2 weeks straight.

She had not only READ the entire thing, but had a hand-written annotated copy nearly half again as thick because of all the yellow sticky notes in it

The media ignored her


11 posted on 11/13/2012 10:47:44 AM PST by Mr. K (We need a TEA PARTY MARCH ON GOP HEADQUARTERS!)
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To: freekitty
"Funny, you are telling everyone this now, Betsy."

She's selling a new book: "Decoding the Obama Health Law: What You Need To Know" ($5.99, Kindle edition).

I'd suggest you do your darnedest not to get sick. (And that advice comes ABSOLUTELY FREE!)

12 posted on 11/13/2012 10:49:00 AM PST by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: Ooh-Ah
What cracks me up is that the health care industry is full of 20-something BRAINLESS bimbo's who blindly love 0bama. Boy are they in for a rude awakening when the IRS and other agencies audits them INCESSANTLY. And the forms, forms, forms.. Complaints from patients and families.. LOL!! Yeah, you sewed it, you reap it DUMBAZZES!!!! Funny things is, they'll HATE it but will be ignorant of the fact 0bama had anything to do with it.

0bama committed government THEFT of 1/6th of our private sector economy and will UNIONIZE IT. MORE SOLDIERS FOR HIS ARMY.

DO NOT COMPLY!

13 posted on 11/13/2012 10:50:08 AM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: Ooh-Ah
To my way of thinking it's not law until it actually gets enforced. Why in the world are state-governments going to play enforcer and shove down our throats?

Let the Federalies figure out how to enforce this baloney.

14 posted on 11/13/2012 10:50:56 AM PST by Idaho_Cowboy (Ride for the Brand. Joshua 24:15)
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To: freekitty
People were told all this for he last 2 years.

Most didn't care.

15 posted on 11/13/2012 10:53:21 AM PST by what's up
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To: freekitty

Yeah, well, she had to read the bill first to find out what’s in it, right? Even the Supreme Court justices admitted they didn’t read the whole statute!


16 posted on 11/13/2012 10:56:07 AM PST by browniexyz
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To: Mr. K

Ms. McCaughey is the former lieutenant governor of New York and was all over the Clintons when they tried to pass Obamacare in 1993 “in 100 days”! Our form of government depends on an educated populace—which America no longer has, and that’s why the fascists can do what they will with us!


17 posted on 11/13/2012 10:58:31 AM PST by browniexyz
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To: Ooh-Ah

Benefits from communists King Obama’s America. Free to free loaders.


18 posted on 11/13/2012 11:01:06 AM PST by Logical me
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To: Ooh-Ah
It’s mandatory, starting Jan. 1, 2014, or the IRS will withhold your refund....

What if you don't have a refund for them to withhold?

19 posted on 11/13/2012 11:06:12 AM PST by girlscout
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To: Ooh-Ah

I just found out that my Tricare Prime is going away as soon as April. This was held until after the election and released essentially on veterans day. I am going to be kicked to tricare standard, my costs will go up significantly on doctor visits and prescriptions. This has gotten no press that I know of in the nation media. I would advise all military retirees to look into this ASAP. There may be a chance that congress could stop this but I have no faith in boner. Welcome to the first phase of kicking military retirees onto the national health service.


20 posted on 11/13/2012 11:08:43 AM PST by strongbow
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To: freekitty

She was talking about it before they passed it. No one was listening on the dem side. She is one of the rare ones who actually read the bill.


21 posted on 11/13/2012 11:11:41 AM PST by secret garden (Why procrastinate when you can perendinate?)
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To: goldi
I’ve heard her on TV and on the radio discussing Obamacare a couple of times. I think she’s the only one that bothered to read the damn thing all the way through.

She's a former lieutenant-governor of New York and an insurance expert. She's the one who caught the Death Panels -- she found the provisions in the Obamacare bill and read them out over the air on Fred Thompson's radio show.

Sarah Palin later named the panels, the enabling legislation for which was later found pre-packed in the TARP bill passed months and months earlier. (How 'bout that for shifty action?)

I swear Obama's small group can't be responsible for all this -- there is a Politburo somewhere writing this stuff!

"Health care is the keystone of the arch of Soviet power." -- V.I. Lenin

22 posted on 11/13/2012 11:19:21 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: Ooh-Ah

I posted this on the Rush thread when he was discussing this article:

Wow! $1.79 per hour per employee is damn expensive. $1.79 x 40 hours x 47.5 weeks = $3,401 per year per employee.

Now let’s do a quick extrapolatoin in the cost of a car....

On average 3 levels in the supply chain
10-12,000 parts per car
On average there is 12-15 direct labor heads per shift per part
1.25 Indirect to support them
A typical company produces 40K cars a week in the US

(12 DL + 15 Ind) x 3 supply levels x 10,000 parts = $810,000 / (40,000 / 3 shifts) = $810,000 / 13,334 = $61 per car

That does not seem like much, but the reality is that this particular company only makes a profit on average of $600 per car. So, this equates to more than 10% of their profits that are already at a paltry 3-4%!

Additionally, this particular company already pays an average of $1,200 per car in tax. The reality is that this is a 5% tax increase on manufacturers!


23 posted on 11/13/2012 11:19:34 AM PST by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: Ooh-Ah

Thanks again, all of those who reelected King Barack.


24 posted on 11/13/2012 11:20:03 AM PST by windsorknot
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
If only our oppressors had to visit the homes of their victims as in centuries past to collect taxes. We do not have the option anymore of blowing the brains out of tax collectors who demand the food from our tables.

No, in this modern and caring, more compassionate Amerika, if one does not comply, outrageous penalties and interest charges commence immediately. The result is the same, ruination of society and our republic.

25 posted on 11/13/2012 11:29:17 AM PST by Jacquerie (Obama voters don't know what they lost, because they never learned what they had.)
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To: lentulusgracchus

She’s also a medical doctor.


26 posted on 11/13/2012 11:33:15 AM PST by goldi
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To: Ooh-Ah; All

If you think healthcare's expensive now, just wait until it's free.


27 posted on 11/13/2012 11:34:36 AM PST by carriage_hill (uila)
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To: strongbow
I just found out that my Tricare Prime is going away as soon as April. . . . Welcome to the first phase of kicking military retirees onto the national health service.

I really hope that does not happen. We have been very happy with Tricare Prime since I retired. My state rep and both senators will be hearing from me tomorrow. I'd do it now, but have to get ready to go to my part time job in a few minutes.

28 posted on 11/13/2012 11:39:40 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (0 bummer inherited a worse economy in 2012 than he did in 2008.)
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To: freekitty

She has been saying it for years ever since Obamacare was passed. Betsy has been warning people about the real impact of Obamacare. She is an expert in the field. I am surprised that you haven’t heard her on TV and radio telling the public how bad Obamacare will be.


29 posted on 11/13/2012 11:48:45 AM PST by kabar
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To: kabar

Like lambs to the slaughter.


30 posted on 11/13/2012 11:50:16 AM PST by Toespi
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To: Renegade

I paid 30% in taxes during the year last year and STILL had to pay 10 grand. And this year won’t be any better.


31 posted on 11/13/2012 11:52:57 AM PST by subterfuge (************ Believe Barry Obama's Propaganda At Your Own Peril **************)
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To: girlscout
What if you don't have a refund for them to withhold?

Then they'll send the New Black Panther Party to muss ya up.

32 posted on 11/13/2012 11:54:29 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts ('Need' now means wanting someone else's money. 'Greed' means wanting to keep your own...)
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To: lentulusgracchus

Actually the Death Panels are genius for the Dems:

By reducing life expectancy, you improve the financials for SocSec and Medicare

AND

Hasten the death of old white people who are more Republican in their voting.


33 posted on 11/13/2012 11:56:32 AM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's bankruptcy: 2016)
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To: CSM
The reality is that this is a 5% tax increase on manufacturers!

Good analysis...but in reality, this is a tax increase on consumers. Obamacare just goes on and on when it comes to taxes...

34 posted on 11/13/2012 12:36:15 PM PST by Lou L (Health "insurance" is NOT the same as health "care")
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To: Ooh-Ah

I owed the IRS a little once. They were keeping my refunds. I made sure I didn’t get a refund for years.


35 posted on 11/13/2012 12:48:10 PM PST by Terry Mross (I haven't watched the news since the election. Someone ping me if anything big happens.)
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To: Ooh-Ah

Question: How will proof be provided for those filing electronically? Or is this another thing they didn’t count on.


36 posted on 11/13/2012 12:49:18 PM PST by Terry Mross (I haven't watched the news since the election. Someone ping me if anything big happens.)
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To: girlscout

It will be handled like any other debt to the IRS, except the IRS agents who come to your door will be shirtless or dressed like Jill Kelley.


37 posted on 11/13/2012 12:53:24 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture™)
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To: Terry Mross

A few years back I owed the IRS twice as much as I had in the bank. They invaded my bank account and took everything I had. Yes, they can go into your bank accounts with no warning.


38 posted on 11/13/2012 12:55:38 PM PST by Musket (It's very simple:<i>your quoted text pasted here</i><p> produces Quoted Italic with paragraph break)
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To: freekitty; All
Funny, you are telling everyone this now, Betsy.

Where have ya been freekitty, she was at the for-front, her and Dr.David Janda, they both read it and tried to warn us...

BTW, Dr. Janda's video that went viral about the Death Panels?....

Funny thing, Dr. Dave got audited last year by the IRS....

Shades of things to come Comrades...

Not to nit-pick, but the sales tax on homes is for above 250k in earnings...

P.S. My CPA gnome tells me their parent organization AIPCA (via newsletter ?) notes that next year between Obamacare and what may happen to the tax code this will cost the average tax payer $3000. Folks, the liberals and Obama OWN THIS, just wait until they start squirming...

39 posted on 11/13/2012 1:13:38 PM PST by taildragger (( Tighten the 5 point harness and brace for Impact Freepers, ya know it's coming..... ))
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To: Musket
A few years back I owed the IRS twice as much as I had in the bank. They invaded my bank account and took everything I had. Yes, they can go into your bank accounts with no warning.

And this was written into Obamacare as well. Not to mention the surrendering of your 4th amendment rights to your medical documents...

40 posted on 11/13/2012 1:15:51 PM PST by taildragger (( Tighten the 5 point harness and brace for Impact Freepers, ya know it's coming..... ))
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To: Lou L

True, plus you get to blame the evil corporation for increasing their prices!


41 posted on 11/13/2012 1:20:59 PM PST by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: DannyTN

“As if, it would have been different under Romney. We lost the fight against Obamacare in the primary.”

That’s a crock and you know it. Geez....


42 posted on 11/13/2012 2:29:40 PM PST by flaglady47 (When the gov't fears the people, liberty; When the people fear the gov't, tyranny.)
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To: freekitty
Betsy McCaughey has been on this beat since Hillarycare. She may know more about it than anyone else in the world.
43 posted on 11/13/2012 5:59:52 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: girlscout
What if you don't have a refund for them to withhold?

Then they will send you a statement of what you owe. If you still don't pay, they will send you a statement of what you owe plus penalties and interest. If you still don't pay, then after maybe a couple more rounds you will get a registered letter from a "special agent" of the IRS, which means criminal proceedings are imminent, and you had better get a lawyer. Expect that to cost one helluva lot more than the initial assessment, even if you don't end up having to go to prison.

See how it will work, now?

44 posted on 11/13/2012 6:07:46 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: hinckley buzzard

She certainly has switched back and forth between the parties.


45 posted on 11/13/2012 6:57:56 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: taildragger

I have been told this. She has switched parties several times. Wonder whats up with that.


46 posted on 11/13/2012 7:06:13 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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