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Senators propose comprehensive immigration changes
GOP USA ^ | 11/13/2012 | Michael Salcedo

Posted on 11/13/2012 11:15:22 AM PST by IbJensen

Two senators on opposite sides of the aisle are proposing comprehensive changes to the immigration laws that would include a pathway to citizenship for the estimated 11 million illegal immigrants now in the United States.

Democrat Chuck Schumer of New York and Republican Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, who promoted similar proposals on separate Sunday news shows said that no path to citizenship would be available until the country's borders were secure.

Only then could those in the U.S. without authorization "come out of the shadows, get biometrically identified, start paying taxes, pay a fine for the law they broke," Graham told CBS' "Face the Nation." "They can't stay unless they learn our language, and they have to get in the back of line before they become citizens. They can't cut in front of the line regarding people who are doing it right and it can take over a decade to get their green card." A green card grants permanent residency status - a step toward citizenship.

Schumer told NBC's "Meet the Press" that he and Graham have resumed talks on immigration policy that broke off two years ago and "have put together a comprehensive detailed blueprint on immigration reform" that has "the real potential for bipartisan support based on the theory that most Americans are for legal immigration, but very much against illegal immigration."

Graham, however, made no mention of working with the chairman of the Senate Judiciary subcommittee on immigration, refugees and border security.

Immigration policy, largely ignored during President Barack Obama's first four years in office, has re-emerged as a major issue as Republicans seek ways to rebound from their election performance. More than 70 percent of Hispanic voters supported Obama, who has been more open than Republicans to comprehensive overhaul of immigration laws.

Three days after Tuesday's election, House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, said it was time to address immigration policy. He urged Obama to take the lead in coming up with a plan that would look at both improved enforcement of immigration law and the future of the estimated 11 million people living in the country illegally. Boehner, however, did not commit to the citizenship issue.

Graham said that the "tone and rhetoric" Republicans used in the immigration debate of 2006 and 2007 "has built a wall between the Republican Party and Hispanic community," causing Hispanic support to dwindle from 44 percent in 2004 to 27 percent in 2012.

"This is an odd formula for a party to adopt, the fastest growing demographic in the country, and we're losing votes every election. It's one thing to shoot yourself in the foot, just don't reload the gun. I intend not to reload this gun when it comes to Hispanics. I intend to tear this wall down and pass an immigration reform bill that's an American solution to an American problem," he said.

Both senators said the overhaul would include developing a secure document to assure employers they're hiring people authorized to work in the country, and allowing legal immigration for needed workers at all skill levels. The path to citizenship would require immigrants to learn English, go to the back of the citizenship line, have a job and not commit crimes.

Graham said the overhaul would have to be done in such a way that "we don't have a third wave of illegal immigration 20 years from now. That's what Americans want. They want more legal immigration and they want to fix illegal immigration once and for all."

In exit polls on Tuesday, The Associated Press found 65 percent favored offering most illegal immigrants workers in the United States a chance to apply for legal status, more than double the number who said most should be deported. Even among Republicans, the party associated with crackdowns on illegal immigration, about half favored a path toward staying in the U.S.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: aliens; goodbyeusa; gramnesty; illegals; schumer
The Republican Party is dead while the Democrat Party is busily engaged in commiting suicide. Perhaps out of the ashes something good may actually happen. Let the economy free fall over the economic cliff and let those who pay no income taxes now see what it's like to have their pockets picked while being mugged by Uncle Hitler!

The American people have essentially with this re-election of obama, assured that the Republican party will never win another national election. We now have a one party system for another four years due to this.

To quote an anonymous writer who posted recently on another conservative web site that in order to have a conservative get elected to a national office (president), “It would be easier to nail horse shoes on a whale’s behind and enter it in the Kentucky Derby!”

1 posted on 11/13/2012 11:15:30 AM PST by IbJensen
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To: IbJensen

From “both sides of the aisle”, my ass.


2 posted on 11/13/2012 11:17:53 AM PST by TheLawyerFormerlyKnownAsAl
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To: IbJensen
"No path to citizenship would be available until the country's borders were secure"?

That would take minefields and machine gun nests, ain't gonna happen!

3 posted on 11/13/2012 11:20:43 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: IbJensen

Stop the madness.

Knee jerk legislation by Linda jerk.


4 posted on 11/13/2012 11:24:02 AM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: IbJensen

Lindsgay, you aren’t going to get their vote or our vote, you stupid, little fool.


5 posted on 11/13/2012 11:26:28 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: IbJensen

Spare us the dog & pony show & just pull the trigger.


6 posted on 11/13/2012 11:32:43 AM PST by skeeter
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To: TheLawyerFormerlyKnownAsAl

Lindsay = Traitor


7 posted on 11/13/2012 11:33:11 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker ((God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.))
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To: IbJensen

Will they pay back taxes?
Will this amnesty include visa overstayers and those following the schedule of their tourist|laser|student visa but working in violation of it’s terms?
What TOEFL score will constitute ‘learning the language?’


8 posted on 11/13/2012 12:14:59 PM PST by posterchild (Remember that thou art dust, and to dust thou shalt return.)
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To: posterchild

“No path to citizenship would be available until the country’s borders were secure”

We were made the same promise in 1986. Why should we believe the federal government now?


9 posted on 11/13/2012 12:17:05 PM PST by altsehastiin
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To: IbJensen

9% unemployment, and they want amnesty, traitors, the law is meaningless, the next time the police pull you over tell them they are violating your civil rights, the foundation of this nation, the law, is being circumvented so the family and friends of foreigners can come too, the Gauls have been given the keys, Jesus will keep the fires of hell warm with politicians!


10 posted on 11/13/2012 12:20:53 PM PST by IslamE (epiphany)
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To: IbJensen; alarm rider; Alex1977; at bay; Babsig; BILL_C; bnelson44; ColdOne; DesScorp; G.Love; ...
This queer SOB POS absolutely must be primaried in 2014. Enough already!!

Uber RINO Lindsey Ping
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Just FReepmail me.

More.

11 posted on 11/13/2012 12:43:13 PM PST by upchuck (We are not finished yet. But when nobama chooses some more SCOTUS judges, we will be. For ever.)
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To: IbJensen

They can both jump short piers.


12 posted on 11/13/2012 12:48:58 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: IbJensen
"No path to citizenship would be available until the country's borders were secure"

Okay, I can agree to that. Here's the deal. We seal the border. Period. After, say, three years of having a sealed border and proving it is truly sealed, we'll begin to figure out a "path to citizenship" for the illegal invaders already here. While doubling the guard on the border.

13 posted on 11/13/2012 12:49:16 PM PST by upchuck (We are not finished yet. But when nobama chooses some more SCOTUS judges, we will be. For ever.)
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To: IbJensen
Two senators on opposite sides of the aisle...


14 posted on 11/13/2012 12:51:11 PM PST by COBOL2Java (The GOP-e said "Beat a Marxist with a Liberal!" What a colossal blunder.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Barry will declare the borders secure, so it must be that it will be so.

And all this talk about ‘getting in the back of the line’ is BS: the back of the line is Mexico or Peru or wherever they are from.

Any of these ‘comprehensive’ immigration reforms allows illegals to continue living here all along, while more educated immigration applicants who would pay money into the public coffers, rather than siphon it out generation after generation, are made to cool their heels abroad.


15 posted on 11/13/2012 1:40:08 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: IbJensen

Lindsay Graham...no surprise there...


16 posted on 11/13/2012 3:16:43 PM PST by HiJinx (Bring back public hangings!)
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To: upchuck

The voters of South Carolina obviously don’t share your extremist views on immigrants. And where is proof that Sen Graham is gay?


17 posted on 11/14/2012 12:01:23 PM PST by Sarabaracuda (Comprehensive Immigration Reform NOW!)
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