Skip to comments.Petraeus's infidelity was his own affair
Posted on 11/13/2012 5:49:34 PM PST by SeekAndFind
What business is it of any of us or his supervisors in Congress that David Petraeus had an affair?
The former general was forced to resign as director of the CIA after the FBI discovered that he had been romantically involved with his biographer Paula Broadwell for four years. Adultery may not be agreeable to many in our increasingly moralising climate, but we should leave judgment and punishment to those on whom his acts directly impact: his wife of 38 years and his family. His personal dalliances (or as he diplomatically called them in his apology, his "mistakes") are not a matter for public concern. His position was not to serve as a role model. His role as director of the CIA was to provide direction for collecting, evaluating and correlating national intelligence for the US. There is no prerequisite for a squeaky-clean lifestyle behind the public scenes.
Yes, he occupied a public post. But he has a right to a private life, private interests and private judgment calls. Yes, the affair came to light during an investigation by the FBI into a potential security breach, but the investigation concluded there was no breach and the "classified information" that Broadwell allegedly came into contact with is not thought to have come from Petraeus.
Sure, it wasn't wise of him to grant his paramour access to his personal Gmail account (apparently so they could send messages to each other). But this should be of no concern to us other than amusement at the results of his naive trust in his mistress. She went on to use it to send catty "back off" messages to another woman she suspected was a love rival. She should have known better. Drama is the last thing any high-profile married lover wants in his mistress.
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Do we really need to explain how an affair is always an issue when it comes to national security and defense?
Are they really that dense?
Security 101: Don’t put yourself in a position to be blackmailed.
That’s why it matters.
Adultery may not be agreeable to many in our increasingly moralising climate....
Huh? What an idiot!
The problem is that he did tell his paramour some things that were classified. The rules apply to military and intelligence officers not because their organizations are prudes, far from it, but because such affairs put them in compromising positions.
Ref. Article 134, Uniform Code of Military Justice:
He knew the rules and the expectations placed on him by the American people every time he put that uniform on, and yet he began his adultery before leaving the Army and now faces possible prosecution.
Circling the wagons around the loathsome antisemite, the Stalinists are...
No it isn’t his business. First, if any of his subordinates were having affairs (yes, he was doinking her when he was a general), he would have hammered them under the UCMJ.
Then as General or CIA leader, he is exposed to blackmail. If my kid is applying to medical school “X”, and i happen to discover the admissions director is having a full-on affair, think after a little talk we my kid gets a rejection letter?
Last, he is a corrupt POS. When he and McChrystol removed hamburgers and pizza from the men on base camps he was spending the evenings with his fawning biographer “comfort woman”. Also, Petraeus HIMSELF put out the new rules forbidding fire support if there was ANY POSSIBILITY of a civilian being hurt. He condemned grunts to hunkering down under machine gun fire with no hope of help from air or Arty.
But he was back in the base, getting his attention from a woman.
He repeated this treachery against those SEALS in Libya.
THAT is why it’s the business of every grunt, and every American.
Are they really that dense?
Yup. They are. When someone has a job like Petraeus had, it’s definitely not just their private business.
“Petraeus’s infidelity was his own affair”
Fair is fair.
We’ve been told so many times what Bill Clinton did in the privacy of his office was his business, after all....
tell me you're kidding.....please?
Proverbs 7 is always good to read if one is thinking an affair would be a good thing:
21 With persuasive words she led him astray;
she seduced him with her smooth talk.
22 All at once he followed her
like an ox going to the slaughter,
like a deer[a] stepping into a noose[b]
23 till an arrow pierces his liver,
like a bird darting into a snare,
little knowing it will cost him his life.
nope, not kidding. Whatever anyone thinks of how much comfort from home soldiers should, or should not get at the rear base. It’s pretty clear that the Generals are not sharing the Spartan life they want to push onto the grunts.
McChrystol flying in his Gulfstream to Paris for fine dinners with NATO ambassadors. (Rolling Stone reporter in tow)
Petraeus getting an evening shoulder rub after an evening jog, and then gettin’ his chrome polished. (occasionally interruping the fellating long enough to deny fire support to some rifleman in a firefight)
Nobody expects a General to live like a PFC. But there are limits in the acceptable level of contrast if one wants to have the respect of the fighting men, and they have been exceeded.
Oh well, let’s ignore Benghazi. That’s the main thing they’re after, isn’t it?
That whole chapter in Proverbs is GREAT; and will give one pause. - Also, Joseph RAN from the house where Potiphar’s wife was tempting him; he didn’t linger for a second.
There maybe some Freepers who remember a Charles Grodin. He had a talk show about 1994-1998. I remember him bringing up the scandal of President Clinton on his show. Then the man summoned up one of the most cynical sneers I ever seen. He then said "Lets move on".
Whether he started it or not I don't know. That became a watchword for the left and Democrat leaning press "-lets move on". I remember a comely English gal who drove the jeep for General Eisenhower in WW2. I will say no more about he and Kay Summersby. Still, he conquered the Axis forces though.
Always somewhat interesting when some in today's world insist that culture is somehow “different” now; we are wiser!
The part of the ox being led to slaughter is such a vivid picture of what adultery can lead to.
I have seen a ox being slaughtered; not a pretty picture to have in mind. A good warning.
I had a friend who had been recruited to work for the CIA. After the initial orientation DC, she had to undergo a lie detector test. Somehow it showed that she’d had an affair. She was then in her early 20s and very single. Nonetheless, that was the end of her CIA career. This was in the mid-60s when young ladies actually had a sense of shame for conducting an out-of-wedlock affair (quaint notion).
Wasnt Clinton being questioned about Chinese money donations, or something like that, when the Lewinsky scandal came out? The British paper responded with the same silly Americans attitude as well.This is a ruse, they know Americans will forgive an affair. You have to admit nobody is talking about the Americans who were tortured and killed in another 9/11 terrorist attack. Obama is touting his glorious foreign policy achievement again. They are very good at propaganda and deceit.
the author is completely and totally wrong.
If the Secret Service and Chiefs of intelligence can be made to break their vows to their spouses, their oaths to their service and their moral obligations in the service, then they are subject to and risk being subverted by spies and blackmail.
It’s sad but, that’s the reality of it.
It would be fine if it never came out but, this administration was looking for a distraction and Patraeus’ dalliance provided it, making him a scapegoat for something he had nothing to do with.
What we’re all overlooking is that Petraeus’ affair is symbolic of a long-term decline in the moral character of leadership in America. 50 years ago, a four-star caught up in such a tawdry affair would be unthinkable. Maybe a civlian politician like JFK, but not a leader of men, a field-grade officer in charge of the nation’s most vital secrets.
And then there’s the image of America he gives to the Muslim world, if that matters.
He didn’t have a concubine for a mistress - he had someone else’s wife.
American wives are whores, and American men have no honor.
“What business is it of any of us or his supervisors in Congress that David Petraeus had an affair?”
That’s right...it is just a “bump” in the road. Let’s all move on until the next terrorist attack. (Or some hot Russian spy chick checks in at the Kremlin.)
What could possibly go wrong? bwahahahahaha!!
Immediately the story of David, Bathsheba and Uriah the Hittite, a valiant man of the army and her husband came to mind. David tried to cover up for committing adultery and conceiving a child with Bathsheba by calling Uriah her husband home from battle so that he would sleep with his wife, and then the child born would be thought to be his. The only problem with this plan was that Uriah wouldn't go along with going in unto his wife and sleeping with her while The ark, Israel and Judah abided in tents and his commander Joab and the other soldiers of Israel slept on the open ground. He is a striking contrast to the thinking of these leaders.
2Samuel 11:8 And David said to Uriah, Go down to thy house, and wash thy feet. And Uriah departed out of the king's house, and there followed him a mess [of meat] from the king.
11:9 But Uriah slept at the door of the king's house with all the servants of his lord, and went not down to his house.
11:10 And when they had told David, saying, Uriah went not down unto his house, David said unto Uriah, Camest thou not from [thy] journey? why [then] didst thou not go down unto thine house?
11:11 And Uriah said unto David, The ark, and Israel, and Judah, abide in tents; and my lord Joab, and the servants of my lord, are encamped in the open fields; shall I then go into mine house, to eat and to drink, and to lie with my wife? [as] thou livest, and [as] thy soul liveth, I will not do this thing.
Or murdered by the mob. Case in point: JFK nailing Marilyn Monroe and any other woman walking within 25 feet of him. How about blackmail opportunities by Monica against Clinton or Ike by his driver?
Get serious. Most men are involved in affairs (not me - ever - though) but only Republicans get into trouble.
His first mistake was to work for the Comrade in Chief.
“And then theres the image of America he gives to the Muslim world, if that matters.
He didnt have a concubine for a mistress - he had someone elses wife.
American wives are whores, and American men have no honor.”
BINGO! You win the door prize. And I’m equally, if not more concerned, about the image that the spread same-sex “marriage” within the Fruited Plain has on our image in the Muslim world. If that doesn’t paint a giant bulls-eye on our back, I don’t know what does.
With apologies to the few good Brits still on the old sod, whenever I read amoral bs like this from the pos Brits, a couple of thoughts run through my mind.
1. My ancestors didn’t kill enough redcoats in our Revolutionary War and the War of 1812.
2. Maybe we rescued the gene pool of these ungrateful Brits too early in WWII.
Oh what a tangled web we weave, when once we practice to deceive. - King David committed adultery, then felt he had figured out the perfect plan to cover him for the pregnancy of his mistress; when his “plan” didn’t work, he felt he had to concoct a worse plan (the murder of an honorable man) to “fix” it. - I fear another David of our time is caught in a similar vise.