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MILLER: Guns blazing since election
The Washington Times ^ | November 13, 2012 | Emily Miller

Posted on 11/13/2012 5:57:34 PM PST by jazusamo

Obama’s second term driving firearms sales to new heights

President Obama’s re-election has sent Americans running to the gun stores. Sales of firearms and ammunition are way up in reaction to Mr. Obama saying during the debates he wants to ban everything from “cheap handguns” to common hunting rifles with scary-looking features.

The two publicly traded U.S. gunmakers have seen investors flock to their stock since Nov. 6. Sturm, Ruger & Co. and Smith & Wesson are both up over 15 percent, while the broader markets were down over the same period.

Gun dealers are seeing the same rush at their counters. In the past week, gun sales surged 70 percent at Sprague Sports in Yuma, Ariz., evenly split between handguns and long guns. “Since the election, it’s been very, very busy — stronger than this same time frame in ‘08,” said owner Richard Sprague, who runs the 56-year-old family business. “People don’t want to wait and see selection and availability if there are more government regulations.” Gun sales at H & H Shooting Sports Complex in Oklahoma City, Okla., have risen 105 percent in the past week, with handguns outselling long guns 3 to 1. The new guns are being put to use. Miles Hall, founder of the 32-year-old company, said he finds his 55-position shooting range is now at capacity 30 minutes after the 9 a.m. opening bell.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; feinstein; guncontrol; obama

1 posted on 11/13/2012 5:57:36 PM PST by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo

I buy a box or 2 of ammo everywhere I am that I can buy ammo. Filled another .50 Cal box just since last Tuesday.

Seem to find myself in those kind of places more and more these days.


2 posted on 11/13/2012 6:02:13 PM PST by digger48
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To: jazusamo

Let freedom ring!


3 posted on 11/13/2012 6:02:22 PM PST by txnativegop (Fed up with zealots)
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To: digger48

Wished I had the money


4 posted on 11/13/2012 6:03:33 PM PST by txnativegop (Fed up with zealots)
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To: jazusamo
I don't blame them. The country is in a spiral downfall as the Speaker plays golf and works on a taN.
5 posted on 11/13/2012 6:04:26 PM PST by Christie at the beach (I like Newt.)
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To: jazusamo

I buy a box or 2 of ammo everywhere I am that I can buy ammo.

Seem to find myself in those kind of places more and more these days.

Filled another .50 Cal box with .40 S&W just since last Tuesday.


6 posted on 11/13/2012 6:05:53 PM PST by digger48
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To: digger48
One thing Obama is good at is being an unpaid advocate for the sales of firearms and ammunition:)
7 posted on 11/13/2012 6:06:32 PM PST by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo
Since Senator Feinstein is promising to reintroduce legislation for an "assault weapon" ban... I put in for some OT at work and just got approved. Next on my list, an AR style 5.56 carbine before they are banned, again.

Already have several handguns, and a Mossberg 12 GA. I'm looking for something that can "reach out" just a bit further for home/property defense. Grand-Dad's 30-30 lever action saddle gun is nice, but a bit slow in rate of fire and short on magazine capacity. I happen to live in a State that allows 30 round magazines so... Hope to have one before Christmas!

8 posted on 11/13/2012 6:09:21 PM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: txnativegop

I see it as an investment in my future.

If the SHTF...ammo will we worth way more than cash per pound


9 posted on 11/13/2012 6:10:49 PM PST by digger48
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To: jazusamo

I went to the gun store on Sunday to buy another gun, they were almost out of stock which really surprised me. When I spoke to the manager, he mentioned that their sales have doubled since the day after the election. I didn’t buy enough ammo, called them today and of course they are out of ammo..... I spent a couple of days last week looking for ammo at a large dept store different locations and of course they are not able to keep ammo either...

I have to admit that I have helped create the low stock as I have purchased 3 guns in the past 3 weeks...


10 posted on 11/13/2012 6:12:02 PM PST by kas7351
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To: jazusamo
I just bought the Judge

and the Jury


11 posted on 11/13/2012 6:12:41 PM PST by SC DOC
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12 posted on 11/13/2012 6:13:59 PM PST by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: SC DOC

I bought an AK-47 on Nov. 7th as my second vote, only because they’re so hated...and I might actually need it in defense some day.


13 posted on 11/13/2012 6:15:47 PM PST by scott7278 ("...I have not changed Congress and how it operates the way I would have liked..." - BHO)
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To: jazusamo

Buying another AR 15 tomorrow, a colt 6721 hbar. I was going to wait, but I am starting to see prices rise and model availability dry up. Just a few days ago, this one site was offering a S&W ORC AR15 for $670 plus $100 rebate from manufacturer. This has been the advertised price of that model for a couple of months now. Yesterday, it was raised to $750. Today, they are all gone. I am getting the colt now and calling it a day. Fortunately, I have a lot of ammo, but I am going to get some more soon also.


14 posted on 11/13/2012 6:16:29 PM PST by 3Fingas
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To: SC DOC
What did those two bad boys set you back$.

Just curious. I see both as good home defense tools.

15 posted on 11/13/2012 6:17:33 PM PST by Ditto
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To: jazusamo

Buy RGR stock. It has another 30% run left. Its very cheap. IMHO.


16 posted on 11/13/2012 6:21:22 PM PST by samadams2000
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To: digger48

Just be prepared to register each box. Also, be prepared to become a criminal if you hoard more that 500 rounds of each calibre. (One good day at the range). Yes I agree. Always be a buyer.


17 posted on 11/13/2012 6:23:21 PM PST by samadams2000
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To: samadams2000
....more than 500 rounds of each calibre

No doubt, to include .22s. I can see it in the local paper now...."subject had 'thousands of rounds of ammo'" in a half dozen 525 value pacs from Wally Whirled

18 posted on 11/13/2012 6:29:51 PM PST by digger48
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To: samadams2000
500 rounds? Ha, I have more than that in 9mm beside my bed! You're right though, that's about a standard day of proficiency training at the range for me and the wife.

As an aside, anyone else notice that Smith and Wesson M&Ps seem to get dirtier than Glocks for roughly the same number of rounds fired?

19 posted on 11/13/2012 6:54:03 PM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: 3Fingas
Buying another AR 15 tomorrow, a colt 6721 hbar

In my case, I just put an AR and a .45LC Ruger Vaquero up for consignment sale at the local gun shop. The AR is an original (pre-ban) Colt CAR-15-SP1 (complete with original owners manual AND bayonet lug!). I finally had to get rid of it because I'm left handed, and every time a case is ejected it hits my glasses (no forward assist or case deflector.)

I may be the only one in the US "selling." Hopefully there will be some interest in them.

Mark

20 posted on 11/13/2012 6:54:16 PM PST by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: MarkL

The Car-15 should sell fast. That is one sweet, old-school basic setup. I am not much for all the doo-dads people like to affix to their ARs.


21 posted on 11/13/2012 6:56:53 PM PST by 3Fingas
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To: samadams2000

Sorry, I bailed out of my S&W stock, although it’s been going “ok”.

Why? Watching the short manipulation going on, finally pushed me over the edge. I pulled all stocks out of the market (save one. which is a bankruptcy proceeding). I’ve had it with the corruption.

But I wish you the best of luck.


22 posted on 11/13/2012 6:59:53 PM PST by tickedoffnow (No more...)
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To: jazusamo

An additional $1,500 in ammo/supplies added to the war room.

Cheers!


23 posted on 11/13/2012 7:06:55 PM PST by TheBigJ
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To: scott7278

Last week I acquired the hog-huntin’ rifle I had been putting off for the past year.


24 posted on 11/13/2012 8:10:58 PM PST by The Duke
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To: Christie at the beach

Watch what happens with the first serious crisis mass shooting in a gun free zone – that’s when the spit is going to hit the fan….. along with many many ‘boating accidents’.


25 posted on 11/13/2012 8:21:06 PM PST by BerserkPatriot (Why is the Democratic National Committee waging a War on liberty?)
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To: The Duke

Sweet - my AK came unfinished, so I put some mahogany stain on her along with spar urethane. I haven’t sanded her with 220 grit sandpaper yet in preparation for the final coats, but she looks like a fighter!


26 posted on 11/13/2012 8:49:38 PM PST by scott7278 ("...I have not changed Congress and how it operates the way I would have liked..." - BHO)
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To: The Duke

Sweet - my AK came unfinished, so I put some mahogany stain on her along with spar urethane. I haven’t sanded her with 220 grit sandpaper yet in preparation for the final coats, but she looks like a fighter!


27 posted on 11/13/2012 8:49:38 PM PST by scott7278 ("...I have not changed Congress and how it operates the way I would have liked..." - BHO)
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To: ThunderSleeps

I looked at a 30-30 at my LGS, complete with scope, but couldn’t pass up 30 rounds of AK goodness (or evilness). :-)


28 posted on 11/13/2012 8:53:33 PM PST by scott7278 ("...I have not changed Congress and how it operates the way I would have liked..." - BHO)
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To: ThunderSleeps
I'm looking for something that can "reach out" just a bit further for home/property defense. Grand-Dad's 30-30 lever action saddle gun is nice, but a bit slow in rate of fire and short on magazine capacity. I happen to live in a State that allows 30 round magazines so...

I'm no FFL or range instructor, but you might want to consider weapons stouter than the AR-15/AK/AKS-class weapons with their "intermediate" rounds that are basically good out to about 200 yards, but haven't much energy left after that. (Another gun in that energy range is the .30 M-1 carbine, that has 20- and 30-round mags available and is famously wieldy and, with properly-measured factory or reload ammo, is much more accurate than its wartime reputation, when typical milspec ammo propellant charges varied 15% within a single lot.)

An AR-10 in .308/7.62 NATO would be a good choice. You can also get Russian Dragunov Saigas and Tigrs chambered in either 7.62x54R (Russian milspec rimmed ammo) or, nowadays, 7.62 NATO. A Saiga rifle runs about $600-700, the Tigr maybe $1100 or so. And then there's the old standby Garand in either .30-06 or rechambered for 7.62 NATO (almost identical ballistics -- in fact the Russian 7.62x54R round is very, very close as well).

The bigger guns rarely have the big "banana clip" mags ..... Tigrs take 5- and 10-round box mags, Saigas have some bigger ones available (I think) in the aftermarket, where there's a vigorous business in mag boxes for Saiga shotguns and rifles (of variable quality -- ask around). The Garand's capacity is fixed.

The Russian guns, unless they're pre-ban, have to be brought into 922(r) compliance, which usually entails some additional expense of changing out some Russian parts for U.S.-made ones. This 922(r) was introduced by Slick, Schmucky Chucky, DiFi and other gun-haters as an amendment to the 1968 Gun Control Act, so it was never sunsetted with the Clinton gun-grab bill (deliberately so).

The expense of bringing a Russian gun into compliance is a couple hundred bucks, up to $400 and more if you start adding US-made grips, stocks, post sights, etc.

And keep your receipts!!

29 posted on 11/13/2012 8:59:32 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: ThunderSleeps

There isn’t a constituency for a gun ban right now. Even if Feinstein introduces it, most politicians realize it’s political suicide. Gun owners need to remain vigilant, but the real battle will be supreme court nominations.

I bought an AR two days after the 2008 election. I don’t regret getting it, but in retrospect, it was a knee jerk reaction.

If anything, gun stores are busier now than they were then. My local store has had to add a “take a number” dispenser — although that is more a product of the new CCW permits than the election.


30 posted on 11/13/2012 9:11:11 PM PST by MediaMole
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To: lentulusgracchus

Saigas are not available in 7.62x54R or a Dragunov-type configuration.

There is also that perennial favorite, the FAL, which is also within that same price range. 20 round magazines for those are cheap and plentiful.


31 posted on 11/13/2012 9:35:50 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: lentulusgracchus

Also, the Russian guns, as imported, are 922r compliant (they wouldn’t be admitted otherwise). It’s only if you stick a larger magazine on them than they shipped with, or perform other changes (fitting a folding stock and pistol grip instead of the original Monte Carlo sporting stock it was imported with, for example) that you have to concern yourself with 922r.


32 posted on 11/13/2012 9:38:45 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: ThunderSleeps

Believe it or not, I’ve been seeing some reasonable prices on AR-15 type rifles at Wal-Mart. Just window-shopping myself, but thought I’d pass it on as FYI.


33 posted on 11/14/2012 1:57:42 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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34 posted on 11/14/2012 2:47:25 AM PST by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: 3Fingas

That’s my model, 6721 Tactical Carbine.
During the ban, it was one of the most sought-after models, as only about 1700 made it out of the factory before the ban took effect.

Very accurate for a carbine, but very heavy up front because of the heavy barrel. All my other carbines are 6920 or similar, with the A2 government profile. Some guys are even returning to the pencil barrels of the A1 series.

Thank God I’ve reloaded for 25+ years. Ammo isn’t as cheap as it once was, but reloading takes off some of the sting.


35 posted on 11/14/2012 5:12:46 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: SJSAMPLE

What sort of sling system do you use? Right now, I am looking at the Blue Force UWL w/ Vickers 2 pt sling.

http://www.blueforcegear.com/universal-wire-loop-push-button-socket/

I am currently using a vtac sling on my other carbine and don’t care for it much.


36 posted on 11/14/2012 6:50:26 AM PST by 3Fingas
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To: lentulusgracchus

I got a Saiga .308. It’s a very good, accurate rifle. It will easily reach out 400+ yards. The heavy barrel helps with the accuracy. I did not feel a need to convert the .308 as I did my 7.62 Saiga, so I kept it in its imported configuration with a Russian made Dragonov style stock. — not a 922 compliance issue as they are imported into the US that way. The only bad thing about the Saiga .308 is the magazines are a bit pricey. I bought several extra 8 round Russian mags for ~$35/each. On the bright side, you can use steel-cased Russian ammo which is usually about half the price of the copper cased US equivalent


37 posted on 11/14/2012 7:04:53 AM PST by 3Fingas
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To: jazusamo

We’re getting our oldest (14) something that goes ‘bang’ for Christmas. She’s too old for dolls anymore ;)

My Christmas list is practical this year: I want a pressure canner. I really liked the Kindle I received last year, but I think this year, dh and I are going to help out the gun industry in the gift we get ourselves. We need something that little 5’4”, 110 lb. me can handle but isn’t going to be dwarfed in the hands of my 6’4” spouse.


38 posted on 11/14/2012 7:13:34 AM PST by Hoosier Catholic Momma (How long till my Arkansas drawl fades into the twang of southeast Ohio?)
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To: 3Fingas

I’ve been using a Wilderness single-point sling with the fastex QD attachments. Unfortunately, I’m short, so I hangs very low. I’m thinking of upgrading to a combination sling that allows me to switch between single and two-point. I might just add another fastex buckle up front on my rail, or swap out for the MagPul sling. There’s a guy that tours the gun shows that has an entire booth dedicated to his slings. About $60, but it attached and adjusts in just about every way. The problem is I don’t like complexity. I don’t need to re-orient my sling every two minutes, so maybe a simple sling/hook rig will do.


39 posted on 11/14/2012 7:26:01 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: SJSAMPLE

The magpul sling looks like it would suit you. I agree completely about not liking complex slings. My friend has a 3 point sling....too complicated. The single point sling is good for maneuvering and transitions; but, I think the standard two point sling is what I prefer. The magpul sling lets you do both, so go for it.


40 posted on 11/14/2012 8:29:47 AM PST by 3Fingas
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To: Hoosier Catholic Momma

Most appropriate gifts for both young ladies and practical. God bless you and your family. :-)


41 posted on 11/14/2012 8:33:52 AM PST by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: 3Fingas

And I forgot to mention that I once had and Uncle Mike’s three-point sling. Nightmare. I tore it apart and kept the hardware for other projects.


42 posted on 11/14/2012 9:38:20 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: Hoosier Catholic Momma

I’ve been looking for a .22 for my daughters (10 and 12) for a few years. The “Chipmunk” single-shot bolt-action rifles looked nice, but they weren’t capable of accepting a 5 or 10rnd magazine.

Now I’m looking at the older CZ 452 Cadet rifles. They’ve got non-standard rings, but they’re great rifles.


43 posted on 11/14/2012 10:33:21 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: jazusamo

dON’T BUY anything with a cc


44 posted on 11/15/2012 6:10:42 PM PST by Phosgood (Send in the Clowns...but Wait, they're here!! >..<)
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