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DON’T BLAME SOCIAL ISSUES FOR ROMNEY LOSS
Human Events ^ | 11/12/2012 | Gary Bauer

Posted on 11/13/2012 9:29:14 PM PST by neverdem

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1 posted on 11/13/2012 9:29:22 PM PST by neverdem
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... had to do with the three million white evangelical voters who cast a ballot in 2008 but didn’t vote this year. In an election decided by fewer than three million votes, they would have been pivotal. And I think it’s safe to assume they didn’t stay home because of Mitt Romney wasn’t liberal enough on social issues.^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Who knows who voted or not? With the massive voter fraud even if Romney got every living evangelical soul the polls, the Democrat Revolutionaries would have manufacture 3 million votes above that total.

2 posted on 11/13/2012 9:33:51 PM PST by wintertime
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I don’t blame social issues, but I will give part, and only part, of the blame to certain candidates who are focused on social issues and who were clearly awful candidates.

There are good people out there who are:
A: correct on all or most of the issues, social included.
B: NOT part of the GOP establishment
C: have an IQ of over 80.
D: have ability, talent, some presence, and can articulate.

Sadly, too many jump on the bandwagon of candidates with only items and A and B. I suggest we also consdier items C and D. Funny, Bauer himself was one of the items A and B only kind of candidates....years ago....


3 posted on 11/13/2012 9:39:09 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright ("WTF?: How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost....Again")
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To: neverdem

HEY GARY! You are just as clueless as the RINO’s...Let’s talk sophisticated Voter Fraud...d’oh!


5 posted on 11/13/2012 9:41:08 PM PST by acapesket
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To: neverdem

If it was matter of turn out, why did Romney win Indiana when Mourdock lost? why did Romney win Missouri when Akin lost especially considering that McCain lost both these states in 2008.


6 posted on 11/13/2012 9:44:29 PM PST by RC one (Akin/Mourdock-2016)
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I’m skeptical of this rumor about 3mil evangelicals who supposedly stayed home. Are there any real numbers to back that claim?

Assuming this were actually true, I don’t see why the GOP needs to pander to these single-issue infantile voters next cycle. Considering the consequences at stake in this election, staying home was inexcusable.


7 posted on 11/13/2012 9:48:08 PM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State)
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To: Post5203

Correct.

But our side sold the “economy only stupid” idea

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2959187/posts


8 posted on 11/13/2012 9:48:28 PM PST by Steelfish (ui)
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9 posted on 11/13/2012 9:51:59 PM PST by icwhatudo (Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
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To: RC one

McCain lost in Indiana, not Missouri, IIRC.


10 posted on 11/13/2012 9:52:38 PM PST by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: Utmost Certainty

Pander to us? take a hike RINO!!


11 posted on 11/13/2012 9:55:09 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Utmost Certainty

And I voted for the sorry SOB!!


12 posted on 11/13/2012 9:55:54 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Utmost Certainty
I’m skeptical of this rumor about 3mil evangelicals who supposedly stayed home. Are there any real numbers to back that claim? Assuming this were actually true, I don’t see why the GOP needs to pander to these single-issue infantile voters next cycle. Considering the consequences at stake in this election, staying home was inexcusable.

Yeah that's the ticket piss them off even more.Just try winning any election when 30,000,000 Evangelicals don't show up . Oh that's right YOU CAN'T WIN ONE STINKING ELECTION WITHOUT THEM.
13 posted on 11/13/2012 9:58:16 PM PST by Lera (Proverbs 29:2)
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To: Utmost Certainty
I’m skeptical of this rumor about 3mil evangelicals who supposedly stayed home. Are there any real numbers to back that claim? Assuming this were actually true, I don’t see why the GOP needs to pander to these single-issue infantile voters next cycle. Considering the consequences at stake in this election, staying home was inexcusable.

There you go again. The GOP did not, has not, and will not, pander to evangelicals. Romney stunk as a candidate and the liberals pegged him to the wall. Why is there not one word from the Romney camp about alllllll the vote fraud? How about all those machines calibrated to vote Obama when a Romney vote was cast. The so called Bible belt states voted overwhelmingly for Romney. You have been the one stuck on one single issue.

14 posted on 11/13/2012 10:02:24 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: wintertime; neverdem
RE :”With the massive voter fraud ....”

Massive huh? LOL As that July 2012 video you pinged me with proves?

To: sickoflibs
Freepers.....This is a video well worth the time to watch!
6 posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2012 12:04:54 AM by wintertime

15 posted on 11/13/2012 10:02:30 PM PST by sickoflibs (How long before cry-Bohner caves to O again? They took the House for what?)
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turn out in Ohio Counties at 139% Boston 135%, Philly at 145%?
Prove it to your self.


16 posted on 11/13/2012 10:17:38 PM PST by acapesket
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To: Utmost Certainty
I’m skeptical of this rumor about 3mil evangelicals who supposedly stayed home. Are there any real numbers to back that claim?

Considering Bauer doesn't provide a source, I think this qualifies, to use technical terminology, as a "Bald-Faced Lie."

Romney did better than McCain in the "Bible Belt" states.

17 posted on 11/13/2012 10:22:00 PM PST by Strategerist
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Oh and same to you, you stay at home evangelicals.
Your temper tantrum has cost us the future of the United States of America.

Hey temper tantrum boy, Evangelicals voted for Romney by

79%

care to name any other group that supportive of him?

How did your group vote?

18 posted on 11/13/2012 10:23:40 PM PST by ansel12 (Todd Akin was NOT the tea party candidate, Sarah Steelman was, Brunner had tea party support also.)
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To: Utmost Certainty
Assuming this were actually true, I don’t see why the GOP needs to pander to these single-issue infantile voters next cycle.

You know that Evangelicals voted republican by 79%, something not even approached by any other category, and you know that the people that think like you voted in the almost equal percentage (tinier number of course)for Obama, so why are the Evangelicals the "infantile voters"?

19 posted on 11/13/2012 10:36:15 PM PST by ansel12 (Todd Akin was NOT the tea party candidate, Sarah Steelman was, Brunner had tea party support also.)
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To: neverdem

call me old fashioned, but when we lost a football game we should of won, the fans and administration knew exactly who to blame: that would be the team and the coach.

well it seems to me that, romney was the “coach” and his campaign was the team. the score being total votes, romney would have lost to both obama and mccain in the last two presidential elections.

i think that puts the “blame” squarely where it belongs.


20 posted on 11/13/2012 10:38:20 PM PST by dadfly
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