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Fight begins for control of House GOP
Houston Chronicle ^ | November 13, 2012 | New York Times

Posted on 11/13/2012 11:44:17 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

WASHINGTON - The battle to shape the Republican Party's direction after its electoral losses will see its first skirmish in the Capitol on Wednesday in a House leadership fight in which the profile might be low but the symbolism is high.

The House's Republican leaders would dearly like to elevate Rep. Cathy McMorris Rodgers of Washington to lead the House Republican Conference, putting a female face into the pantheon of the white male Republican leaders.

But standing in their way is Rep. Tom Price of Georgia, one of the most conservative members of the House who has lined up some big guns in his quest for the fourth-ranking post in the conference.

The most important of those guns, Rep. Paul Ryan of Wisconsin, the defeated Republican vice-presidential nominee, showed no sign of retreat Tuesday in a letter sent to colleagues endorsing Price.

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Speaker John Boehner, trying to clear the path for McMorris Rodgers and head off a divisive fight, offered Price the post of chairman of the House Republican leadership. But Price declined.

Instead, he set out to line up the House's most ardent conservatives behind him. In a letter also released Tuesday, the outgoing Republican conference chairman, Rep. Jeb Hensarling of Texas, and the governor-elect of Indiana, Rep. Mike Pence, also threw their support behind Price.

(Excerpt) Read more at chron.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: gop; gope; mcmorrisrodgers; teaparty; tomprice; ushouse

1 posted on 11/13/2012 11:44:32 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

They’re screwing around for positions 3 and 4??? For God’s Sake, replace Boehner!!!


2 posted on 11/13/2012 11:48:30 PM PST by NonValueAdded ("Our president ... makes big speeches packed full of little ideas" Charles C. W. Cooke)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Good!


3 posted on 11/13/2012 11:53:07 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: NonValueAdded
They’re screwing around for positions 3 and 4??? For God’s Sake, replace Boehner!!!

Damn straight!!!
The first step in trying to stop Obobo is getting rid of Boehner.

4 posted on 11/13/2012 11:59:25 PM PST by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin......Nuff said.)
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To: NonValueAdded

The conservatives are a minority in the House GOP and they know it


5 posted on 11/14/2012 12:28:20 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: NonValueAdded

I agree with you. Boehner needs to go. I think he’s probably the worst Speaker of the House, we’ve ever had. Nazi Pelosi was a dingbat, but, she sure had a spine of steel.


6 posted on 11/14/2012 12:30:05 AM PST by Catsrus
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Boehner is the one that needs replacing!


7 posted on 11/14/2012 12:41:46 AM PST by matthew fuller (God cast his early vote 10/29 in Obamaland!)
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To: matthew fuller
Boehner is the one that needs replacing!

This is a show of force - a challenge.

Conservative members have a more solid footing. They're flexing their muscles.

Members on the fence, watching this play out, need to hear from their constituents.

Today.

8 posted on 11/14/2012 12:54:43 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I have no problem putting women in leadership.

I have a problem putting liberal establishment weasels in leadership.


9 posted on 11/14/2012 12:58:29 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

We need substance over symbolism.


10 posted on 11/14/2012 12:59:17 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Is someone ***ANYONE*** going to fight these liberal Democrat Turkeys?

No?

Doesn't surprise me. :(
11 posted on 11/14/2012 1:04:53 AM PST by Tzimisce (Will there be anything to fight for in 2016?)
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To: Tzimisce; All

More on this....

http://www.buzzfeed.com/johnstanton/conservative-republican-rejects-boehner-compromise

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/tom-price-vies-house-conference-chair_663262.html


12 posted on 11/14/2012 1:26:39 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
There are risks with and without Boehner. The problem with him is that he may cave on various issues. The problem with replacing him is that an "Angry House Leader" which people seem to want to match their own anger, tis that Obama can provoke a showdown vote which we will likely lose. Look at TARP, a few House R held out while numerous RINOs caved like my own rep (Wolf VA). Then the market crashed and enough caved to pass it.

Without TARP we risked spending a trillion or two to backstop depositors at the large banks via FDIC. With TARP we elected Obama and got trillions of spending on federal hole digging projects.

A showdown vote with an Angry House Leader does have one upside IMO. If we lose, which I believe is likely, it will further hasten the demise of the R party who will be blamed by the media for trying to crash the economy over the election results. Then we could see challenges on the right to take the place of the R's that lose. It would take a couple of cycles though with D dominance in the mean time.

13 posted on 11/14/2012 2:29:02 AM PST by palmer (Jim, please bill me 50 cents for this completely useless post)
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To: palmer

How about neither Boehner nor an ‘Angry House Leader’, but simply a conservative leader instead?


14 posted on 11/14/2012 2:36:38 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

Sure, my AHL is kind of a red herring. But many people were putting up a litmus test that included public statements against anything Obama wants. There’s a big difference between public statements meant for the media and private resolve to keep House votes in our favor.


15 posted on 11/14/2012 2:42:33 AM PST by palmer (Jim, please bill me 50 cents for this completely useless post)
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To: palmer

Sorry but the market crash had nothing to do with TARP being opposed. It had everything to do with TARP being passed. TARP passed on October1, 2008. The big market plunge occurred between October 2 and 18, after Bush, Paulson and Bernanke had spent four weeks telling people that the US was facing doom. The panic was intentional and you can be sure that a number of select insiders made fortunes short-selling during the panic.


16 posted on 11/14/2012 2:47:00 AM PST by littleharbour
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Indeed. Isn’t this the very same job the GOP boys kept Michele Bachmann out of four years ago?


17 posted on 11/14/2012 2:51:49 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: palmer

Can you give me an example?


18 posted on 11/14/2012 2:52:47 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Get boehner the hell out of any position of authority.
Man’s has no balls, no moxie, no spine.
Makes no difference anyway cause a new Conservative party is in the works and I’ll be damned if I stick with the GOP for another dole, mclame or mitt rino


19 posted on 11/14/2012 2:58:07 AM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO))
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Republicans on the Hill are grappling with the party’s struggles with female voters.

And it all goes back to how they backstabbed and then abandoned Sarah Palin.

20 posted on 11/14/2012 3:05:14 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: littleharbour

Maybe I wasn’t clear, but without TARP we would have had a quick drop necessitating an FDIC bailout. The drop would have been an huge opportunity for smaller healthy banks which would have led a quick recovery. The market drop after the first TARP vote was Wall St theatre, but it got enough RINO votes to get it passed.


21 posted on 11/14/2012 3:12:12 AM PST by palmer (Jim, please bill me 50 cents for this completely useless post)
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To: 9YearLurker

When Boehner asks Obama to lead and waits for specific legislation it buys time to get his troops lined up and get closer to the cliff. The way to get the best deal from the D-senate is to have them get calls from their patrons concerned about the cliff. The worst deal is if Obama and the Senate come up with something and ramrod it through the House using a TARP-like financial crisis strategy.


22 posted on 11/14/2012 3:15:38 AM PST by palmer (Jim, please bill me 50 cents for this completely useless post)
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To: palmer

Thanks. I’m not sure I’m entirely clear on what you’re saying, however. If Obama were to get pushed to ‘lead’ on this, wouldn’t that come in the form of his cooking up something with the Senate Dems?

I’ll admit, I’m a bit jaded on this, as I’m only used to the GOP totally caving under media pressure with any sort of deadline like this, and then of course there was Boehner secretly trying to give the store away to Obama while he was pretending to hold the line both publicly and with the Congressmen he was supposedly leading.


23 posted on 11/14/2012 3:27:52 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Catsrus

Yep, yep, and yep.


24 posted on 11/14/2012 3:58:02 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Congress is nothing more than “smoke and mirrors.” No matter what they say, it is only a partial truth...or an outright lie.

Look at the benefits they give themselves whether they are in office for 1 minute or a lifetime while screwing the taxpayer and desecrating the Constitution.

I have absolutely no faith in anything a politician does or says until they pass term limits. Until that time we will continue to creep into the cesspool of socialism and communism.


25 posted on 11/14/2012 4:24:57 AM PST by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

how about a vote for BONER’s job? so he can have free time to smoke and tan more.


26 posted on 11/14/2012 4:32:59 AM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: 9YearLurker

Yes, Obama will cook something up. But the specific legislation will take time and can get specifically voted down whereas words can get agreed to or disagreed to and are cheap. I’m not that familiar with Bohener’s history and I’m mainly looking at it from where we are at today. I would let them talk nice in public as long as we can hold the line in an actual vote. My biggest fear is a media juggernaut behind some really bad legislation (e.g. hundreds of billions in new spending plus taxes, plus some hidden giveaways like the foreign bank bailouts in TARP).


27 posted on 11/14/2012 4:38:04 AM PST by palmer (Jim, please bill me 50 cents for this completely useless post)
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To: GeronL

This election is by next year’s members, and there are more conservatives than before.
Both of these candidates are 90+ ACU rated conservatives.


28 posted on 11/14/2012 4:44:27 AM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: palmer

Boehner IMO must be seriously compromised. Here’s one account of the debt ceiling charade in 2011:

http://newyork.newsday.com/news/nation/bob-woodward-s-the-price-of-politics-paints-obama-boehner-debt-battle-as-partisan-impasse-1.3959130


29 posted on 11/14/2012 5:04:15 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Tom Price is from GA and I can tell you he’s great.


30 posted on 11/14/2012 9:07:27 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

I wrote my Congressman. Picking up the phone now.


31 posted on 11/14/2012 9:28:13 AM PST by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: palmer

The 2008 TARP debate opened my eyes, passing it was wrong. The adjustment was needed and we could have been 4 years into a true recovery.


32 posted on 11/14/2012 9:43:49 AM PST by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: palmer
TARP Photobucket
33 posted on 11/14/2012 9:49:21 AM PST by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: Java4Jay

It’s good that you learned that. A lot of Americans dimly realize that the bailout was wrong in some way, but not many realize how similar it is to Japan’s zombie banks of the 1990’s which they plastered over with low rates and never recovered from.


34 posted on 11/14/2012 10:27:53 AM PST by palmer (Jim, please bill me 50 cents for this completely useless post)
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To: NonValueAdded

John Boehner is not going anywhere.


35 posted on 11/14/2012 12:28:55 PM PST by Sarabaracuda (Comprehensive Immigration Reform NOW!)
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To: NonValueAdded

Well said!


36 posted on 11/14/2012 12:45:13 PM PST by taxcontrol
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