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53 percent of Americans would blame GOP for ‘failure to avert crippling fiscal cliff’
truthdive.com ^ | November 14, 2012 | ANI

Posted on 11/14/2012 2:49:15 AM PST by John W

Washington, Nov. 14 (ANI): Americans are prepared to blame Congressional Republicans for failure to avert the fiscal cliff, according to a new poll.

According to the Washington Post-Pew Research Center Poll, 53 percent of Americans said the GOP would be at fault, compared with 29 percent who said the same of Barack Obama.

The poll found that nearly 10 percent said that both would be to blame.

While 51 percent of Americans don’t expect a deal, Democrats have substantially more faith than Republicans in the ability of President Barack Obama and Congressional Republicans to compromise.

Two-thirds of Republicans are not anticipating a deal, and only a quarter expect one.

However, a plurality of Democrats, 47 percent to 40 percent, expects Obama and the GOP to reach an agreement, Politico reports.

Congressional Republicans are likely to face the blame for any impact.

The fiscal cliff would amount to a giant removal of cash from the economy. On Jan. 1, 2013, the Bush-era tax cuts would expire, along with a payroll tax cut introduced by the 2009 stimulus bill.

While 68 percent of Americans think it will have a major impact on the American economy, a significantly smaller number, 44 percent, expect it to have a major impact on their own personal financial situation.

Nearly 62 percent expect the impact on the economy to be mostly negative, while 20 percent think the impact will be positive, it added.


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1 posted on 11/14/2012 2:49:19 AM PST by John W
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To: John W

Yeah, cause it is our money?


2 posted on 11/14/2012 2:53:15 AM PST by urbanpovertylawcenter (where the law and poverty collide in an urban setting and sparks fly)
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To: John W

so who the hell cares who’s to blame. does this mean that if we avoid it, we’ll get the credit? face it, the democratic republic that once was is over. the body politic is too stupid, hedonistic and ahteistic to govern themselves. most in america are governed by: gadgets, food, TV, and their penises and vaginas. a country won’t last long on that recipe.


3 posted on 11/14/2012 2:54:28 AM PST by veritas2002
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To: John W

Ok so what. Do what is right not what some poll tells you. Isn’t that how we ended up with Obamacare?


4 posted on 11/14/2012 2:55:09 AM PST by linn37 (Newt supporter here.)
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To: John W

Roughly sixty percent of America believes in Bigfoot. At least ten percent of America believe in Elvis being alive. At least forty percent of America believes in the Loch Ness Sea Monster.

People tend to believe a bunch of things which lead to nothing much factual. There are some folks in the age of fifty range who still believe Phil Donahue has a show on TV today, and that Donny and Marie are husband and wife.


5 posted on 11/14/2012 2:55:18 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: urbanpovertylawcenter
Congressional Republicans are likely to face the blame for any impact.

The propaganda department of the Democratic party, aka the MSM, has done their job...

6 posted on 11/14/2012 2:56:33 AM PST by El Laton Caliente (NRA Life Member & www.Gunsnet.net Moderator)
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To: John W

100% of Americans will suffer when we go bankrupt.


7 posted on 11/14/2012 2:56:50 AM PST by Principled
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To: John W
According to the Washington Post-Pew Research Center Poll, 53 percent of Americans said the GOP would be at fault, compared with 29 percent who said the same of Barack Obama.

While disappointing and not surprising, these results are a testimony to the success of the vast left wing conspiracy to dumb down America.

The facts that the Democrats have had no budget for years, rely on borrowing, printing money, and complaining that people actually working are not paying their "fair" share (a moving target) have little bearing on the evolution to the fiscal cliff.

Belief in fiscal responsibility, belief in God, and the sanctity of life means that Republicans are out of touch with disordered progressive thought, and therefore, to blame.

8 posted on 11/14/2012 3:00:02 AM PST by olezip
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To: John W

I’d say let them have it.

At some point the party will come to an end.

The adult children who run America don’t care about the next generation. They want their fix now and there will be hell to pay to any one who stands in their way.

Fiscal cliff? What fiscal cliff?


9 posted on 11/14/2012 3:05:54 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: John W

If the Repubs go along with it, 60% of the people will blame them for resultant depression. So?


10 posted on 11/14/2012 3:06:00 AM PST by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: pepsionice

Donny and Marie are husband and wife....They aren’t? I know Cher was devastated when her your younger brother Sonny, kissed a tree at 60mph....


11 posted on 11/14/2012 3:08:47 AM PST by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: Safetgiver

Yep, bring on the blame.


12 posted on 11/14/2012 3:10:17 AM PST by DooDahhhh (ma)
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To: John W

House Republicans need to pass their plan and demand that the Senate do the same, so they can go to conference. If Obama wants to intervene, say that he should talk to Harry Reid.


13 posted on 11/14/2012 3:17:31 AM PST by sphinx
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To: John W

House Republicans need to pass their plan and demand that the Senate do the same, so they can go to conference. If Obama wants to intervene, say that he should talk to Harry Reid.


14 posted on 11/14/2012 3:17:59 AM PST by sphinx
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To: goldstategop

Truth!! Give them everything they want. Obamacare, yep. Taxes, yep. Open borders, yep. Amnesty, yep. Assult Weapons ban, yep. They won. Let ‘er rip. It won’t take long.


15 posted on 11/14/2012 3:18:07 AM PST by vortec94
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To: John W

I would credit the Republicans for causing a crippling fiscl cliff.

Obama is going to gut the military, anyway. Saving it for today will not save it for tomorrow. Obama is going to take that money and “invest” it with his friends and cronies.

Better to just take that money away from him.


16 posted on 11/14/2012 3:18:17 AM PST by Haiku Guy
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To: Principled

almost...

Obama and his family will be alright. he said so.


17 posted on 11/14/2012 3:21:12 AM PST by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: John W

I’ll see your poll, and raise you 2 more... seriously, after 2+ years of presidential polling does anybody give a rip what a half-—ed poll says?


18 posted on 11/14/2012 3:26:31 AM PST by Tallguy (Hunkered down in Pennsylvania.)
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To: John W

Who cares what a WaPo poll states anyway?
But lets dissect this farce.
Where are these people so polled?
I wager 95% in california, 90% in NY& the NE will blame the GOP for anything, not to mention the inner city dwellers & most of the Hispanics.
I am past caring about voters, legal or not, who hate us & despise our brand.
Support local US congressmen & Senators across our land and we can pull through without pandering to those whose only goal is a media driven agenda to transform us into something else


19 posted on 11/14/2012 3:36:26 AM PST by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: John W
Part of me says just give him everything he wants. Then when the inevitable happens he has nobody to blame but himself.
One thing this election did is give ZERO cart blanch to finish his so called change.
Once his plan fails, and it will, then we can pick up the pieces and start over. I mean a complete start over, getting rid of all 535 members plus the 9 gods.
Before that we might need to study Chinese and Russian.
20 posted on 11/14/2012 3:39:27 AM PST by DeaconRed (We have a lot of work to do, , , , , , , , , , , ,)
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To: John W

Who cares? The GOP is pretty much relegated to permanent minority party status after this election anyways. The House will stay GOP for another 2-4 Congressional sessions, then flip back to Dems.

The GOP should just say “scr&w it, we’re going to spend the next generation or two arguing over the crumbs the Dems decide to toss to us anyways so we’re going to do what’s right” and go tough-love here. Let the fiscal cliff happen.


21 posted on 11/14/2012 3:40:43 AM PST by tanknetter
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To: John W

Seriously? Who the hell cares?! This isn’t a popularity contest, this is about the very future of the country. And no matter which way the Republicans go they are going to be blamed, this has been proven time and time again. Just do the right thing for a change!


22 posted on 11/14/2012 3:40:53 AM PST by ShadowDancer ("Don't expect to build up the weak by pulling down the strong.")
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To: John W
I would credit the GOP -- but I doubt Boehner has it in him. IMO, he'll just bend over and give Zero what he wants, and more, with the help of the 'rats in Congress.

Beyond the cliff, there is a fiscal gap the size of the Grand Canyon, and we can expect a Japan-style "Zombie Economy" for the rest of my natural life.

23 posted on 11/14/2012 3:42:27 AM PST by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: goldstategop

The GOP is going to get the blame anyway. Go ahead and go over the cliff. Let’s promise even more free stuff including no charge health care for all. It’s a human right, after all. Give them what they want and conservatives should go Galt just to add an extra nudge. Maybe after a Road Warrior decade, we will try again.


24 posted on 11/14/2012 3:45:04 AM PST by Truth29
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To: John W

So what? Dems are going to destroy the country - if we try to stop them we’ll get the blame. Let them make every city into Detroit or Chicago or Philly. Corrupt - violent - dependent... We’ve seen democrat ideas at work in Cities - maybe more Americans need to see those ideas at work in their own communities... Maybe that will wake them up.


25 posted on 11/14/2012 3:50:03 AM PST by GOPJ (Petraeus confession: like something from a 'Soviet purge trial'....)
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To: John W
Americans are prepared to blame Congressional Republicans for failure to avert the fiscal cliff, according to a new poll.

Even though the Rats control the presidency and senate, the state controlled media (SCM) will assure that the Pubbies get blamed (for ANYTHING that goes wrong).

5.56mm

26 posted on 11/14/2012 3:52:14 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: John W

“53 percent of Americans would blame GOP for failure to avert crippling fiscal cliff”

53 percent of __________would blame GOP for failure to avert crippling ____ ___.


27 posted on 11/14/2012 3:56:30 AM PST by Varsity Flight (Extortion-Care is the Government Work-Camp: Arbeitsziehungslager)
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To: John W

Probably the same 53% who voted for The Won to continue playing Santa.


28 posted on 11/14/2012 4:00:15 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: pepsionice
People tend to believe a bunch of things which lead to nothing much factual.

Yeah, like rinos winning presidential elections!

29 posted on 11/14/2012 4:00:58 AM PST by sirchtruth (Freedom is not free.)
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To: bill1952
They don't have to be any particular place. if they call 10,000 people, they'll only get 900 answers.

90 of them will be gay. 90 will be feminazis. 90 will be in the abortion business in some way. 90 will be newspaper/magazine people (they lie awake nights waiting on calls from pollsters), and another 90 will be 18 year old dateless college girls!

That gives you 450 answers from people who will give the pollster the most extreme possible leftwingtard answer. A mere 450 will be from possibly normal people. Apparently 350 of those 450 said 'screw this' ~ and only 100 said 'gimmme'.

A real poll would have had 350 saying 'git off my lawn you punks' and only 105 would say 'gimme'. That'd be 70% against, and 30% for ~ or clearly a blowout.

it's possible PEW announces its forthcoming polls to the special interest groups so they can have their people prepared to respond and appear to be 11X the population than they really are!

30 posted on 11/14/2012 4:04:01 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: tanknetter
Actually it's the Democrats who are very close to becoming a permanent minority ~ a higher death rate at the end of life, and a higher abortion rate at the beginning of life leaves their numbers declining relative to those who lead normal lives.

Some of our children will be reading about Democrats some day and say 'wonder what they were like'.

31 posted on 11/14/2012 4:07:26 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: John W

ok Republicans are the favorite whipping boy. They need to become honest, fair, noble, faithful, true, loyal and set an example. Instead they have been adulterers, liars, prevaricators and compromisers. I do not identify as a Republican because of that. I state I am an independent. Both political parties have become craven.


32 posted on 11/14/2012 4:15:22 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: John W

I say give the National Socialist Democrat Worker’s Party everything they want and pronounce it loud and clear.

Collapse this monstrosity now, while we have enough people who remember what a Constitutional Republic is supposed to look like that can build it right.


33 posted on 11/14/2012 4:19:39 AM PST by EricT. (The GOP's sole purpose is to serve as an ineffective alternative to the Democrat Party.)
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To: John W

Only 53%? That means the 47% would blame the commie progressives, or some combination?

Not bad odds, compared to the alternative, IMO.

Let it crash. It’s going to crash regardless. I’d rather it be sooner, not later. Let’s get it over with, and get this country restructured under Constitutional principles, with more states, and social welfare programs that are back in the private sector where they belong, no government meddling in healthcare, no dept of Ed/Ag/Commerce/HHS, etc.


34 posted on 11/14/2012 4:21:49 AM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2013: Still seeking change.)
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To: John W

this is why any deal (which will be a bad deal regardless) must be effusively “credited” by Boehner to dear leader obama

I have been of the opinion that Boehner should give obama everything he wants, graciously announce he is doing so, and let the economic consequences ROLL under obama-democrat ownership

obama figures to raise about a couple hundred billion in more taxes from “millionaires”- so let him. Like Kristol noted, half these millionaires are democrats

let obama prove how this piddling amount of money (relative to the soon-to-be $18 TRILLION debt) benefits the country over the next 2 years


35 posted on 11/14/2012 4:23:34 AM PST by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: John W
They will take the blame no matter what they do or don't do. They will be blamed for any bad outcome, fiscal cliff or not. If any good happens, Obama will get the credit. Those things are preordained. There is no way around them. So, the way I see it, the ‘Pubs have nothing to lose by doing the right thing, which probably is to let it crash.
36 posted on 11/14/2012 4:25:07 AM PST by chimera
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To: John W

Then, screw `em. If disaster is averted, Obama gets the credit. Must be nice to be the magic negro.

Take the whole mess over the cliff. Time for a reboot.


37 posted on 11/14/2012 4:32:52 AM PST by ScottinVA (I've never been more disgusted with American voters.)
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To: pepsionice

you got it - and the stupid commericals run by the GOP and MITT, that did not sell any facts, showed they will believe anything by the Rats too because they feel good.


38 posted on 11/14/2012 4:44:10 AM PST by q_an_a (the more laws the less justice)
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To: John W

Well - the GOP needs to read this, crap their panties, and cave. It was, aterall, an opinion survey.


39 posted on 11/14/2012 4:44:37 AM PST by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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To: pepsionice

“Roughly sixty percent of America believes in Bigfoot. At least ten percent of America believe in Elvis being alive. At least forty percent of America believes in the Loch Ness Sea Monster.’

Let’s not forget that 40% of high school seniors can’t find the Pacific Ocean on a map.


40 posted on 11/14/2012 4:47:51 AM PST by sergeantdave (The FBI has declared war on the Marine Corps)
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To: John W

Enough of the gotdam polls.

Enough already. 53% of Americans voted for President a-hole they already think everything is the GOP’s fault. Fug them and what they think.

Obama is the head Lemming leading them over that cliff. He wants it. It does everything he wants.

Let ‘er go, we are going to get the shaft sooner or later anyway, might as well be now.


41 posted on 11/14/2012 4:52:16 AM PST by Venturer
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To: John W

Americans would blame the Repubs or the Pravda would blame Repubs? Pravda would lead the charge and Americans would believe.


42 posted on 11/14/2012 4:52:44 AM PST by Strutt9
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To: John W

This is a push poll. I would prefer the verb “credit” to the verb “blame”. If the USA hits the fiscal cliff I will credit the Republicans in congress. The media is trying to make us think the fiscal cliff is bad.


43 posted on 11/14/2012 4:54:59 AM PST by impimp
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To: All

For the record, the latest result I have seen for the 2012 popular vote is Obama 50.6% Romney 47.8%.


44 posted on 11/14/2012 4:56:08 AM PST by John W (Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: veritas2002

Not only that, but a nation too lazy to use proper capitalization is doomed to fail.


45 posted on 11/14/2012 4:56:52 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: John W

Whatever. BURN IN DOWN!


46 posted on 11/14/2012 4:59:45 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: John W

What is this. Junior High?

We’re supposed to do a bunch of stupid stuff, that we know is wrong, so “they” will like us?

The behavior is “stupid and wrong” because it doesn’t work, and is contrary to our values.

Do we expect they will like us if we cooperate in our mutual destruction?

When it doesn’t work, will they not blame us anyway?

When a REAL solution is needed and wanted, will “they” turn to us or trust us?


47 posted on 11/14/2012 5:04:31 AM PST by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: chimera

“They will take the blame no matter what they do or don’t do. They will be blamed for any bad outcome, fiscal cliff or not. If any good happens, Obama will get the credit. Those things are preordained. There is no way around them. So, the way I see it, the ‘Pubs have nothing to lose by doing the right thing, which probably is to let it crash.”

_____________________________________________

At this point, as sorry as I am to say it, I agree with you and other posters who said this.

There are rough times ahead. May God bless America.


48 posted on 11/14/2012 5:06:31 AM PST by proud American in Canada (Pray for America.)
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To: John W

Actually, I agree with this, in that under a media barrage by the Democrats and MSM, most Americans *would* believe that it was the Republicans fault. I can say this, because that is exactly what happened during the Clinton years.

That is, Clinton shut down the government by refusing to sign budget bills, and the Republicans could not override him, and the Democrats and the MSM blamed the Republicans, and the public believed the lies. Eventually the Republicans caved.

HOWEVER,

Right now the congress is a lame duck. Granted that with a government shut down, the Republicans would both be blamed and come under intense pressure — at first.

But as the new government was formed starting on January 20th, there would be an abrupt change, if the Republicans could hold firm. That is, all the moochers, bureaucrats and unions in the US would start to really feel the pinch, and would have no one to complain to and demand from but the Democrats!

And *that* is when the bullet hits the bone. Because it is going to be two very long years before the next elections, and if the Republicans can hold out for a month or two, the Democrats are going to get both barrels. And their pain will be intense and deep, as all the promises they have made come up short.

How do I know this? Because in the last years of the Herbert Hoover administration, this is exactly what the Democrats did to the Republicans.

Hoover was desperate to fix the economy, and the Democrats in congress blocked him every step of the way. And though the Democrats were blamed at first, all the people getting pounded by the Great Depression eventually turned their wrath on Hoover and the Republicans.

And that wrath was wide and deep. It just nuked the Republicans at the polls, and gave the Democrats a free reign under “Ol’ Frank” Roosevelt.

So this is the payoff to the Republicans right now, if they can just keep their continence for a few months and refuse to bend to the Democrats.

If they cave, like spineless weaklings, it will deeply hurt our country, and they will be politically neutered for years. But if they fight, and withstand the attacks for a short time, they will win big time.

So, how brave are Republicans, really?


49 posted on 11/14/2012 6:05:30 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (DIY Bumper Sticker: "THREE TIMES,/ DEMOCRATS/ REJECTED GOD")
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To: John W

Morons...


50 posted on 11/14/2012 6:07:10 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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