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Boehner’s Blunder (If you can't beat 'em, join 'em)
national review ^ | 11/14/12 | m tanner

Posted on 11/14/2012 6:29:01 AM PST by bestintxas

Well, that didn’t take long.

They hadn’t even finished counting the ballots in Florida when House speaker John Boehner indicated that Republicans were preparing to surrender on issues ranging from taxes to health-care reform.

With regard to taxes, Boehner signaled that he was once again open to a “grand bargain” to avoid the looming fiscal cliff. While he kept an increase in tax rates off the table for now, Boehner said that he was open to “additional revenue” as part of a deal. Such additional revenue could, of course, take many forms, such as closing loopholes, raising fees, or counting on increased economic growth. But by preemptively conceding on revenue, Speaker Boehner takes the focus off the need to cut spending.

Advertisement Speaker Boehner correctly noted that everyone agrees we can’t keep spending more than we take in. But that implies that the problem is simply the difference between what comes in and what goes out. It’s not.

The Congressional Budget Office projects that, under current policy, federal spending will reach 46 percent of GDP by mid-century — even if we never add another new government program. True, a substantial portion of that spending will be interest on the federal debt. Theoretically, therefore, if taxes were increased enough to cover spending and close the deficit, adding no additional debt, we’d have far lower interest payments, meaning that total levels of government spending would be lower in the future. Lower, but not that low: Even if one

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KEYWORDS: 112th; boehner
This guy is not a conservative at all.
1 posted on 11/14/2012 6:29:05 AM PST by bestintxas
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To: bestintxas

No one from an Obama state should be in a GOP leadership post.


2 posted on 11/14/2012 6:30:45 AM PST by txrefugee
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To: txrefugee

It’s up to us. We’re going to have to build the Tea Party into an actual, viable opposition party. The GOP has already thrown us under the bus.


3 posted on 11/14/2012 6:35:44 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: bestintxas

Americans must long remember and punish those Vichy Republicans so willing to collaborate with the anti-American agenda of the Obama Regime.


4 posted on 11/14/2012 6:36:10 AM PST by drpix
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To: bestintxas; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; Impy; stephenjohnbanker; NFHale; ...

I been saying since he became House speaker and even before that, he isnt half the fighter that Pelosi is.

Recall Pelosi under GWB in 2006 as new speaker, she fought like hell to bring down Republicans.

Bohner is terrified and very weak. And he has always been weak.

If this was just a trick to fool clueless independents (into thinking Rs are working with dems to get things done) then I wouldnt mind, but I think he means it.


5 posted on 11/14/2012 6:36:25 AM PST by sickoflibs (How long before cry-Bohner caves to O again? They took the House for what?)
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To: txrefugee

We will soon find out whether the influx of Tea Party House members has had any real impact on the decision making of the GOP House caucus. These folks need to stand up and be counted. If they cannot oust Boehner because they are outweighed by the RINO’s, they can at least draw a line in the sand and tell Boehner publicly that they will not back any deal with Obama that does not (a) cut spending and (b) includes any tax increase. The job of the Tea Party caucus over the next two years has to be stiffening the spine of the GOP.


6 posted on 11/14/2012 6:37:39 AM PST by littleharbour
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To: bestintxas

No, he is not.


7 posted on 11/14/2012 6:39:36 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: sickoflibs; Impy; All

“Bohner is terrified and very weak. And he has always been weak.”

I bet his tears taste like cigarettes and gin.


8 posted on 11/14/2012 6:40:32 AM PST by GOPsterinMA (The autopsy will show that this nation committed suicide.)
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To: bestintxas

Wonder what they have on him, besides his drinking.


9 posted on 11/14/2012 6:41:01 AM PST by maggief
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To: sickoflibs

Yes he does mean it. Yes he has to go.

Meanwhile, Gov Scott here in Florida announced today he is seeking a compromise with the G on Obamacare regarding Medicaid which he said he would not do prior to the election. Well, if Scott thinks this is going to save him in this state, forget it....he is toast in 2014.

Rubio is now pushing his amnesty program. Well, goodbye Mr. Chips there to because none of these guys who compromised one bit are getting my vote nor any of the real conservative GOPers. Won’t make a difference in their getting the party nominations BUT the difference in an open election will be severe for them. Frankly, I’d rather have a dem in and ruin GOP lite foreever than cave in to the RINOs.

My word for them all, good bye and don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.


10 posted on 11/14/2012 6:41:17 AM PST by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: sickoflibs

Correction : Pelosi speaker starting 2007, dems won 2006 midterms.


11 posted on 11/14/2012 6:41:34 AM PST by sickoflibs (How long before cry-Bohner caves to O again? They took the House for what?)
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To: bestintxas
Boehner’s Blunder

or boner's, boner...as it were.

John needs to give up the Speaker job......have a couple of packs of cigarettes....go into the tanning booth...relax John, let someone capable do the job.

12 posted on 11/14/2012 6:43:09 AM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: GOPsterinMA

Cigarettes, gin and coco butter.


13 posted on 11/14/2012 6:43:42 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (In the game of life, there are no betting limits)
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To: bestintxas

Boehner, Cantor and ALL of the US House “Leadership” are NOTHING but “Soft-Handed” YELLOW COWARDS!


14 posted on 11/14/2012 6:46:31 AM PST by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: bestintxas

This is why the republicans conspired with the democrats to take out Tom Delay. He wasn’t afraid of the democrats and he wiped the floor with them.


15 posted on 11/14/2012 6:50:40 AM PST by cotton1706
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To: bestintxas

Conservatives don’t cry like babies.

This guy was a disgusting disgrace from the get go.

He needs to be flushed from his speaker’s slot and the Tea Party People and conservative reps in the House had better do it if they want my support in future COngressional elections.


16 posted on 11/14/2012 6:52:07 AM PST by ZULU (See video: http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2012/09/the-first-siege-of-vienna.html)
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To: Mouton; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; Impy; stephenjohnbanker; NFHale; ...
RE :”Yes he does mean it. Yes he has to go.”

Someone defending him (mad at my comments the other day) came up with point that is probably true. No one in the House wants Bohners job.

That tells you how dis-functional the R party is, how scared they are now and how they squandered the 2010 election

17 posted on 11/14/2012 6:54:08 AM PST by sickoflibs (How long before cry-Bohner caves to O again? They took the House for what?)
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To: cotton1706

“This is why the republicans conspired with the democrats to take out Tom Delay. He wasn’t afraid of the democrats and he wiped the floor with them.”

you can say the same thing about Newt.

We need that caliber of people in power to represent us.


18 posted on 11/14/2012 6:54:49 AM PST by bestintxas (Anyone who votes for Obama after these 4 miserable years needs to take a mandatory citizenship test.)
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To: bestintxas

DUH!


19 posted on 11/14/2012 6:57:00 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker ((God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.))
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To: sickoflibs

In my opinion, Boehner is the poster child for a severe case of ED!


20 posted on 11/14/2012 6:58:12 AM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: sickoflibs; bestintxas; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; Impy; stephenjohnbanker; ..

” but I think he means it.”

Of COURSE he means it. Boner is 99. 77/100 pure whore!!


21 posted on 11/14/2012 6:58:39 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker ((God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.))
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To: maggief

” Wonder what they have on him, besides his drinking.”

Spineless whore comes to mind, Maggie.


22 posted on 11/14/2012 7:00:16 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker ((God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.))
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To: sickoflibs

Technically the speaker does NOT have to be a current member of Congress. Rehire Gingrich, at least he does not trip over his own feet and can articulate a position that is reliable. He has a good track record dealing with Clinton the lib. I am tired of the mamby pamby approach. Imagine a horrible situation where the Obama and Joe the jerk were killed, consider Bonehead the Jelly Fish spine running the country and having to make some tough decisions. Better put some extra Gordon’s gin in the white house bunker.


23 posted on 11/14/2012 7:00:40 AM PST by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

“The GOP has already thrown us under the bus.”

There was a bus? Hell, we got hit by a meteor strike from outer space. This was not just a road smear, it was a cuffing CRATER.

Pat Buchanan’s preferred tag line a few years ago was “Lock and load”. Of course, his wrath at the time was directed at Dubya, and since, either Patrick has mellowed, or the actual focus of the campaign to restore America has wandered away.

There has been scattered talk, or at least mutterings, about the possibility that the individual states may wish to secede from the United States and form a separate republic. So far, Texas and Louisiana have led the way, and have presented petitions (for what it is worth) to the whitehouse.gov website. The United States has been, for the past two and a quarter centuries, just that, except for one brief moment, 1861 to 1865. There was a war fought that postponed any legal discussion of whether an individual state could secede, but the sheer force of arms succeeded in putting that argument on hold. What was settled, apparently, was that one human being could not own another in involuntary servitude. But the question of secession itself was never addressed, nor was it ever adjudicated in any way.

I say this course of action remains an option, and that a plebescite should be held in each state, that should this particular state be retained in the union, or may it be permitted to leave? Not just as a preference, but as a binding resolution.


24 posted on 11/14/2012 7:03:03 AM PST by alloysteel (Bronco Bama - the cowboy who whooped up and widened the stampede.)
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To: bestintxas

John Boehner is the Rodney King of the GOP!
There! I said it!
It was the Establishment GOP’ers who put this spineless twit in the seat.
He does NOT represent me, who wants a Constitutional government.

He voted FOR:
NAFTA 1993
Firearm Background Checks 1993
Stimulus Bill 2008
Military Commissions Act (the one that established ALL Americans as ‘suspects’) 2006
Don’t Ask Don’t Tell 1993
Domestic Partner Recognition in DC 1993

AND ... Voted down Seawolf Submarine Funding 1992

So, he likes spending YOUR money, making you the ‘suspect’ of any and all homegrown terrorist activity, uncharged, wants to know what guns you are buying and if you are fit to buy it, loves homosexuals (lately he has been as nutless as the head queer in charge).

I would rather have someone with the guts and brains of Gingrich, or the stalwart pugilism of Rep. King.


25 posted on 11/14/2012 7:03:57 AM PST by Terry L Smith
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To: bestintxas

I consider Bonehead to be a male version of Pelosi.

Both are stupid, have no intellectual capability whatsoever, and both would be serving burgers not for the government’s creation of jobs for cretins (our congress).

Oh, both are fugly, too.

May they both die in shame and be buried in the local septic tank.


26 posted on 11/14/2012 7:06:32 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: alloysteel

I have been in favor of secession for a long time but unfortunately it is not going to happen. Just imagine what would happen if say 13 states left: Texas, Alaska, Florida (the northern part), Georgia, Alabama, Louisiana, Mississippi, South Carolina, Montana, Wyoming, North and South Dakota, Idaho, and Arizona. The flood gates of the producers and workers from the other states into them would be incredable. Furthermore, the exodus of the moochers and bums from them would also be large. The result would look like South Korea verses North Korea.


27 posted on 11/14/2012 7:10:53 AM PST by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: bestintxas

Has anyone ever thought, that in an instant, all of that could change, with the following ABSURD, INSANE, and FICTIONAL world, where you mix one angry American, some kind of coffee barista on the corner, and, for the sake of discussion, Mr. Boehner?

What kind of short story could that make? Would it make NCIS? Would it make Criminal Minds? Would it make The Mentalist? Or would it make the news?


28 posted on 11/14/2012 7:11:01 AM PST by Terry L Smith
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To: bestintxas

Newt wasn’t afraid to wield the power of the House of Representatives, which is enormous. President Clinton said he wasn’t interested in balancing the budged in 7 years, Newt and his handpicked committee chairmen said they’d do it anyway, and he dragged worthless Bob Dole kicking and screaming along with him.


29 posted on 11/14/2012 7:12:13 AM PST by cotton1706
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To: bestintxas

John Boehner can be forced out as Speaker of the House and a conservative can be placed in his position as Speaker of the House. Boehner does not own the position by election by the people. Caving in as he has done deserves scorn and resistance. With all the voter fraud it is incorrect to say the progressives got a mandate on any issue.


30 posted on 11/14/2012 7:12:13 AM PST by Rapscallion ( OBAMA: You own it now. See if you can govern it.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

NICE!!! Coco butter...


31 posted on 11/14/2012 7:30:02 AM PST by GOPsterinMA (The autopsy will show that this nation committed suicide.)
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To: Mouton; sickoflibs

“Technically the speaker does NOT have to be a current member of Congress.”

Speaker Allan West. Think Obama might sh*t a Miata over that?


32 posted on 11/14/2012 7:34:02 AM PST by GOPsterinMA (The autopsy will show that this nation committed suicide.)
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To: txrefugee; bestintxas

His classic statement: “If it’s good enough for Hawaii, it’s good enough for me” says it all!!!

Michelle Bachmann played the same fiddle a little later as a follow up to Boehner’s statement, hello???


33 posted on 11/14/2012 7:45:46 AM PST by danamco (-)
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To: bestintxas

Boehner is not fit for the job. He needs to go. I don’t give a tinkers about whatever protocol there is— ditch the man, we need somebody capable!


34 posted on 11/14/2012 8:00:54 AM PST by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: bestintxas
I say "Weepy" Boehner should just hand the house leadership over to Nancy Pelosi and just call a spade a spade.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

35 posted on 11/14/2012 8:08:32 AM PST by Joe Brower (The "American People" are no longer capable of self-governance.)
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To: Joe Brower

” I say “Weepy” Boehner should just hand the house leadership over to Nancy Pelosi and just call a spade a spade.

Looks to me like this is being done as we post.


36 posted on 11/14/2012 8:50:13 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker ((God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.))
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To: GOPsterinMA; Eric in the Ozarks

I wonder if their is such a thing as cancer of the tear ducts.


37 posted on 11/16/2012 12:24:38 AM PST by Impy (Boehner for President - 2013)
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To: Impy; Eric in the Ozarks; campaignPete R-CT; fieldmarshaldj; sickoflibs

Cry tears of acid
Booze and butts, killers to all
Speaker with no balls

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n61nZNycfBI


38 posted on 11/19/2012 5:31:54 AM PST by GOPsterinMA (The autopsy will show that this nation committed suicide.)
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To: GOPsterinMA; Impy; Eric in the Ozarks; campaignPete R-CT; fieldmarshaldj; ...
RE :”Boehner’s willingness to give in so easily on revenues makes it less likely that there will be real spending cuts as part of any deal. We’re likely to get more of the sort of smoke-and-mirrors measures that the president has already proposed, such as reliance on phantom savings from ending the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, double-counting cuts that were already included in last year’s budget agreement, and the perennial promises to eliminate “fraud, waste, and abuse.” Just look at how illusory the alleged spending cuts in last year’s debt-ceiling deal turned out to be: In the twelve months following that deal, federal spending actually increased by 3.6 percent, an average of $11 billion more every month.
At a minimum, Speaker Boehner seems to have given up any leverage that he might have had to demand the entitlement reforms necessary for any long-term spending restraint. Having conceded on taxes, what does he have left to trade?”

They are wasting their time trying to cut entitlements now with O as POTUS anyway?

What about the automatic spending cuts? Does the GOP really want to go on record by restoring that funding while cutting longer term entitlements at the same time. Party now and work later when you get old?

Dems can let all the tax cuts to expire then put up bills extending only some of them and Republicans will fold. In fact this will give the GOP cover for giving in without voting for tax increases, maybe they should have done this in late 2010 instead of now.

Will the tax increases on the rich and the automatic spending cuts be enough to put the country in recession? If so then why save Os economy?

39 posted on 11/19/2012 5:48:38 AM PST by sickoflibs (How long before cry-Bohner caves to O again? They took the House for what?)
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To: sickoflibs

” Boehner is a coward, period.


40 posted on 11/19/2012 10:44:23 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker
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To: stephenjohnbanker
RE :” Boehner is a coward, period”

Remember all the wishful thinking in 2010? Obama was going to be impeached even before the election

41 posted on 11/19/2012 10:59:18 AM PST by sickoflibs (How long before cry-Bohner caves to O again? They took the House for what?)
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To: sickoflibs

The House has been in hiding since the day Obama took office. Pelosi runs it.


42 posted on 11/19/2012 11:09:48 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker
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To: maggief

Do they have pictures of him with a goat? He acts like they do.


43 posted on 11/19/2012 3:41:03 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie (Actually, they lie when it suits them! The crooked MS media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: GOPsterinMA

Captain Dudley Smith

is on basic cable with

That fruity gay spock


44 posted on 11/20/2012 12:07:39 AM PST by Impy (Boehner for President - 2013)
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To: bestintxas

Swindler Party planned all along. Tried to sneak in a Trojan Horse from Massachusetts, with all the insider fascists (including stealing Social Security), so now the deception can’t be hidden fully any longer, comes into broad daylight.


45 posted on 11/20/2012 12:34:09 AM PST by Varsity Flight (Extortion-Care is the Government Work-Camp: Arbeitsziehungslager)
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To: Impy; campaignPete R-CT; fieldmarshaldj

Impy is a Haikuist of the highest order.

Here’s today’s contribution:

Captain Dudley Smith
Gay, fruity Spock, wearing pink
Demote the F M

I was high ranking
Now, I’m a lowly sergeant
Gay Spock, please save me

I drink to forget
Look, the internet is on
Loins are afire


46 posted on 11/21/2012 7:09:22 AM PST by GOPsterinMA (The autopsy will show that this nation committed suicide.)
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