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The End Of The Karl Rove Death Grip Signals A Reagan Renaissance
Forbes ^ | 11/12/12 | Ralph Benko

Posted on 11/14/2012 6:49:48 AM PST by LRoggy

Liberals do not grasp the distinction between Ronald Reagan and (either) George Bush. This blind spot creates a massive confusion and hazard to their ambitions. Obama defeated neither the Reagan Narrative nor Team Reagan. Team Bush appropriated, and then marginalized, both. Obama beat Team Bush, not Team Reagan. The implications are huge.

There was a touchy relationship between President Reagan and his Vice President George H.W. Bush. They were rivals during the primaries. Bush attacked the Reagan economic agenda as “voodoo economics.” Bush served faithfully as VP for eight years but Reagan and Bush never warmed to one another. There was precious little rapport between the populist figures populating the Reagan circle and the Eastern establishment retinue of the son of the patrician Sen. Prescott Bush.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: americancrossroads; bush; karlrove; reagan; rove; teaparty
I only wish this turns out true.
1 posted on 11/14/2012 6:49:53 AM PST by LRoggy
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To: LRoggy

You, me,and the free world!!


2 posted on 11/14/2012 6:51:35 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker ((God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.))
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To: LRoggy

Excellent article - and all true.

Mitt Romney had on stage at his last big Ohio rally none other than Elaine Chao - yes, she’s married to Mr. McConnell who is stuck in the Senate as our standard-bearer.

She was a pampered, spoiled brat as Labor Secretary. She did nothing according to principle but rather according to big-government, big-spending ideals.


3 posted on 11/14/2012 6:57:36 AM PST by agrarianlady
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To: LRoggy
Forbes’ predictions have been consistently wrong for decades...
4 posted on 11/14/2012 6:58:23 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (In the game of life, there are no betting limits)
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To: LRoggy

Buy American!


5 posted on 11/14/2012 7:00:07 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Maybe they just turned it around!


6 posted on 11/14/2012 7:01:00 AM PST by Darteaus94025
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To: LRoggy

What a joke. No, I’m not reading the rest.

Rove is busily taking in contributions to his super-PAC or whatever it is, and FOX / Hannity are still going to give him a platform from which to raise money and pretend to be a conservative WINNER.


7 posted on 11/14/2012 7:08:23 AM PST by subterfuge (************ Believe Barry Obama's Propaganda At Your Own Peril **************)
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To: LRoggy

Please, please let us retire Rove and no more Bush family for a good long time. We need political entitlement reform. pfft!


8 posted on 11/14/2012 7:18:43 AM PST by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: LRoggy
After that abjectly humiliating Election Night meltdown of his, on coast-to-coast television: the only way I ever want to see Karl Rove burbling on TV again, re: grown-up politics, is if appropriately garbed in a cap-and-bells, with little jangly shoes.
9 posted on 11/14/2012 7:21:45 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: LRoggy

Superb article, although I read Rubio as a Bush circle protege. Anyway, worth recycling an old tagline.


10 posted on 11/14/2012 7:33:11 AM PST by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans. Don't read their lips. Watch their hands.)
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To: LRoggy

This RWR and GHWB personal relationship was also echoed with Eisenhower and Nixon. Not one in eight years did DDE and Mamie invite Dick and Pat to the White House for a private dinner. But GHWB did become emotional at the Reagan funeral. RWR’s biggest failures were GHWB and Sandra Day O’Connor.


11 posted on 11/14/2012 7:40:18 AM PST by Theodore R. (Once again the American people have been found sorely wanting. I think it will continue.)
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To: LRoggy

The only possible way to save this country is to find out who makes up the cabal that forced Reagan to select Bush as his VP. Then destroy it.


12 posted on 11/14/2012 7:45:04 AM PST by Terry Mross (I haven't watched the news since the election. Someone ping me if anything big happens.)
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To: LRoggy

I am afraid there will always be some Republican stupid enough to write this guy a $300 million check.


13 posted on 11/14/2012 7:51:27 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: stephenjohnbanker

A better statement of why the Republican party got it wrong:

“...The difference between the left and the right is that the left has a five-year plan and the right has a five-second plan. The left knows what it’s going to do four years from now when the numbers look even worse than they do today. But what is the right going to do? Run another cheerful capitalist who promises to use his Olympics experience to fix the economy, but never really seizes those grievances and goes for the throat? That’s what the left is counting on...” Daniel Greenfield aka Sultan Knish

Link to full article: http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2012/11/the-numbers-game.html


14 posted on 11/14/2012 8:08:06 AM PST by CharlesMartelsGhost
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To: LRoggy

You underestimate the GOP’s virtually infinite capacity to learn the wrong lesson.


15 posted on 11/14/2012 8:21:53 AM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: CharlesMartelsGhost

One of the sharpest pieces of writing I have read in a long time. I saved it. Thanks.


16 posted on 11/14/2012 8:27:20 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker ((God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.))
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To: LRoggy

Didn’t Karl Rove, Tom DeLay, and Jack Abramhof promise conservatives a permanent Republican majority if we’d just relax a few principles?

Compassionate Conservatism.
Ownership Society.
Big Government Conservatism.
Project for a New American Century.
No Child Left Behind.
Medicare Part D.
Faith-Based Initiatives (controlled and financed by government).
Neo-conned.


17 posted on 11/14/2012 8:28:29 AM PST by Skepolitic
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To: LRoggy
[Art.] There was precious little rapport between the populist figures populating the Reagan circle and the Eastern establishment retinue of the son of the patrician Sen. Prescott Bush.

Correction here: Pressy Bush got his start as a shoe salesman in Ohio and got the idea to better himself by going East to attend Yale, where he diligently brown-nosed, facilitated, convenienced, and did much service for the rich snots in varsity sweaters. Then he parlayed old school ties into a U.S. Senate seat.

Sequaciousness was a hallmark of both Pressy and Poppy.

And snobbery.

18 posted on 11/14/2012 8:28:35 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: Psalm 144
Superb article, although I read Rubio as a Bush circle protege. Anyway, worth recycling an old tagline.

Say "Jeb-Chris-Marco" three times really fast, and you'll get some idea of the breathlessness of the talking heads last week, as they elevated themselves into hyperdrive, "reserving" slots in the winner's circle for the 2016 GOP nomination.

19 posted on 11/14/2012 8:35:32 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: Irenic
Please, please let us retire Rove and no more Bush family for a good long time.

Ping to my last. Sorry to be the bearer of bad tidings, but Karl's already reserved the 2016 nom for Jebby Boy.

20 posted on 11/14/2012 8:38:29 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: CharlesMartelsGhost

” Run another cheerful capitalist who promises to use his Olympics experience to fix the economy, but never really seizes those grievances and goes for the throat?”

Romney brought a cap pistol to a gunfight. Never has worked, never will work. When you run against a thug, you have to out battle the thug.


21 posted on 11/14/2012 8:47:32 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker ((God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.))
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To: lentulusgracchus

I realize and I suspect he will destroy Texas trying to install handsome baby Jeb as Governor.

I wish we could send Boehner and Rove off to a deserted island.

We give them a few boxes of tissue and a dry erase board—that way Rove can figure all the variances and percentages for Boehner’s tissue rations. Because you know Boehner will be blubbering.

I can dream...


22 posted on 11/14/2012 9:50:19 AM PST by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Irenic

Wipe out Rove, Bush 1 and Bush 2 from Conservative history, all 3 were nothing more than traitors to this country!


23 posted on 11/14/2012 11:06:15 AM PST by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: Psalm 144
Superb article, although I read Rubio as a Bush circle protege.

Glad someone else caught this. I understand the desire to see a hispanic surname among the GOP's rising stars, but lets first make sure their surname, and maybe some nice sounding rhetoric, aren't the only reason we support them.

24 posted on 11/14/2012 11:30:07 AM PST by skeeter
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To: lentulusgracchus

Whenever I hear HW Bush and Reagan mentioned together for some reason I think of the former using the occasion of the latter’s memorial service to make crappy jokes about Millie, his dog.


25 posted on 11/14/2012 11:34:18 AM PST by skeeter
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To: LRoggy

BTTT!


26 posted on 11/14/2012 11:55:54 AM PST by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: LRoggy
"I will not concede the election until Karl Rove gives me permission."

-The Simpsons

27 posted on 11/14/2012 1:27:03 PM PST by jpl (The government spent another half a million bucks in the time it just took you to read this tagline.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
He was an embarrassment indeed, what with his panicky little white board act about Cincinnati saving Ohio and the nation for Romney. All smoke, no substance at all. Rove failed, as did all the conservative einsteins who assured us Romney had Ohio well in hand. May as well jettison the whole pack--nobody knew what the hell was going on.
28 posted on 11/14/2012 8:42:45 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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