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Atheists Ask Obama to Ditch 'So Help Me God,' Bible in Presidential Oath....(Shameful)
Christian Post ^ | Nov 14th, 2012

Posted on 11/14/2012 2:33:15 PM PST by TaraP

President Barack Obama will be taking the oath of office for the second time on Jan. 21, 2013. And atheists want him to do so without mentioning "God" and without a Bible. The Freedom From Religion Foundation sent Obama a letter following his re-election, asking him to reject the way "this country politicizes religion."

"When you stand to reaffirm your oath, do so using the language of the Founders. Eliminate the religious verbiage. While you're at it, why not place your hand on the Constitution instead of a bible?" FFRF attorney Andrew L. Seidel wrote in the letter.

The words "so help me God" are not included in the oath as prescribed by the Constitution, the organization argues. The Constitution also does not require the president to place his hand on a Bible when taking oath, FFRF adds.

When Obama took office in 2009, he repeated after Justice John Roberts: "I, Barack Hussein Obama do solemnly swear that I will execute the Office of President of the United States faithfully and will to the best of my ability preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States, so help me God."

FFRF argues that "so help me God" violates the Constitution as it alienates the nonreligious, which the organization believes is the future of America.


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1 posted on 11/14/2012 2:33:19 PM PST by TaraP
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To: TaraP

I totally forgot he had to be sworn in again!


2 posted on 11/14/2012 2:34:37 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: TaraP

There are a few FReepers who think we should pander to them too.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2958040/posts


3 posted on 11/14/2012 2:34:42 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Hell I’ll swear at him.


4 posted on 11/14/2012 2:35:45 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Betcha he acquiesces to their demands to drop God and the Bible.


5 posted on 11/14/2012 2:36:25 PM PST by Josa
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To: TaraP

He places his hand on the Constitution every day, when He wipes his azz with it.

I agree he should not swear on the Bible or swear to God. God is not his god so it means nothing. make him swear to Allah. Not that that would mean anything to him either.

Obama can lie to any god, like he does to us.


6 posted on 11/14/2012 2:38:25 PM PST by Venturer
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To: cripplecreek

We have definetly morphed into a Godless society....

The Harbingers have come....


7 posted on 11/14/2012 2:38:36 PM PST by TaraP (On Christ the Solid rock I stand, all other ground is sinking sand.)
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To: TaraP

If He doesn’t exist, why do they care?


8 posted on 11/14/2012 2:41:02 PM PST by tnlibertarian
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To: TaraP

It is the new Roman Empire. Maybe he should swear to Jupiter.


9 posted on 11/14/2012 2:41:02 PM PST by throwback (The object of opening the mind, is as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid.)
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To: TaraP

Article Two, Section 1, Clause 8:

Before he enter on the Execution of his Office, he shall take the following Oath or Affirmation:—”I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”

You will note there is no reference to God here in the Constitution.

A. Lincoln is the first president known to have added the phrase, based on contemporary reporting, at his Second Inaugural.


10 posted on 11/14/2012 2:41:13 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Josa

He needs to remove his sheep’s attire...

So his followers can see who he really is....


11 posted on 11/14/2012 2:41:35 PM PST by TaraP (On Christ the Solid rock I stand, all other ground is sinking sand.)
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To: Sherman Logan

I do solemnly swear (or affirm) TO WHO??


12 posted on 11/14/2012 2:43:42 PM PST by TaraP (On Christ the Solid rock I stand, all other ground is sinking sand.)
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To: TaraP

allah...piss be upon him!


13 posted on 11/14/2012 2:45:52 PM PST by newfreep (Breitbart sent me...)
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To: TaraP

“Affirm” was put into the Constitution specifically for people who did not want to “swear.” And John Quincy Adams took the oath of office with his hand on a law book, not a Bible.


14 posted on 11/14/2012 2:49:16 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: TaraP
While you're at it, why not place your hand on the Constitution instead of a bible?" FFRF attorney Andrew L. Seidel wrote in the letter.

Why not just place your hand on your crotch like you do when they play the national anthem?

15 posted on 11/14/2012 2:50:35 PM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: tnlibertarian
If He doesn’t exist, why do they care?

That's like arguing why worry about Islam if Allah doesn't exist.

16 posted on 11/14/2012 3:10:10 PM PST by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: TaraP

“I, Barack Hussein Obama do solemnly swear that I will execute the Office of President of the United States faithfully and will to the best of my ability preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States, so help me God.”

Actually he’s hasn’t done anything after the first word “States” so why not stop there.


17 posted on 11/14/2012 3:10:57 PM PST by waredbird
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To: TaraP

Obama may replace the phrase with “Allah wills it”.


18 posted on 11/14/2012 3:20:09 PM PST by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: TaraP

19 posted on 11/14/2012 3:31:43 PM PST by SparkyBass
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To: TaraP

It was General Washington who added that phrase at his first inauguration. Like so many of his firsts, he was right again


20 posted on 11/14/2012 3:33:36 PM PST by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: Josa

Some are taking odds that he’ll use a Koran for the swearing- in.


21 posted on 11/14/2012 4:13:14 PM PST by Carl LaFong (Vera the possum is US.)
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To: TaraP

“So help me Allah...”

Praying to Satan never ends well.


22 posted on 11/14/2012 4:15:01 PM PST by Fresh Wind (Cut the cable today!)
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To: TaraP

I quoted the Founders’ words. If you have an argument with the wording, take it up with them.


23 posted on 11/14/2012 4:51:06 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: TaraP
Shameful?

What is shameful about honesty?

Obama's god is not the God of Israel.

His party is not the party of God...and Jerusalem is not his party's capital of Israel.

Obama should put his hand on the Koran. And let's be done with it.

He is the Mahdi (or a Mahdi wannabe).

Let's bring it out into the open.

Let's take the lid off this travesty. The truth sets us all free...even those who have been lying.

24 posted on 11/14/2012 5:31:33 PM PST by RoosterRedux (Bill Clinton just signed Paula Broadwell to write his bio...and Jill Kelley as his social liaison.)
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To: TaraP

‘So help me, Allah’ would be more appropriate in the case of Omuslim.


25 posted on 11/14/2012 8:31:19 PM PST by patriot08 (Native Texan)
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To: James C. Bennett

Yes, because asking someone to help you keep a promise and blowing up buildings in someone’s name are exactly the same thing.


26 posted on 11/15/2012 5:59:52 AM PST by tnlibertarian
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To: James C. Bennett

Yep, Christians/Jews following Yahweh are the equivalent threat that Muslims following Muhammed/Allah are.

And teenage Asian females cause as much trouble in public schools as teenage black males.


27 posted on 11/15/2012 6:03:33 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: tnlibertarian
I hope Obama does drop “so help me God”. When he says it it's blasphemy. I also hope the democrats are successful in purging God from their platform. Let them lay bare who they truly are. If we have to come down to a simpleton “party of atheists” vs. party of “worshipers”, then so be it. Choose the Devil or choose God. Maybe that's the direction we need to go.
28 posted on 11/15/2012 6:09:25 AM PST by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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To: liberalh8ter
I hope Obama does drop “so help me God”. When he says it it's blasphemy.

I hope he says it and God does help him. Whether zero likes the form of help he gets or not.

29 posted on 11/15/2012 6:19:08 AM PST by tnlibertarian
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To: tnlibertarian

I know! I mean, those atheists burning Protestants at the stake and drowning witches... theocracies are benign and full of rainbows and butterflies.


30 posted on 11/15/2012 7:17:48 AM PST by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: James C. Bennett
I know! I mean, those atheists burning Protestants at the stake and drowning witches... theocracies are benign and full of rainbows and butterflies.

First, using your logic, I can assume that since you are an Australian, you are a convicted felon banished to that disntant isle, right? Second, now you are comparing saying 'so help me God' to killing people. You really need help in the analogy department. Your hate of God is corrupting your ability to think clearly.

31 posted on 11/15/2012 7:42:52 AM PST by tnlibertarian
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To: tnlibertarian

Right, banished felon I am, and so it would be wrong for me to see the slippery slope in theological matters which lead to the nadir of theocracy ... something that has never happened in history before, and why Thomas Jefferson took the extra care to avoid. Excuse me while I go back and bury my head in the sand...

As for the ability to think, has it ever occurred to you that you might be severely lacking in that faculty yourself, with all the dogma you’ve assumed without inquiry? I never said private statements of affirmation of faith in dogma are by themselves harmful, but your earlier statement about why atheists need not be bothered by something they do not believe in is just laughable. It’s not god that atheists are worried about - just what its followers do in its name.


32 posted on 11/15/2012 8:59:59 AM PST by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: tnlibertarian
If He doesn’t exist, why do they care?

Because they can't ignore the fact that WE exist.

33 posted on 12/07/2012 10:08:55 AM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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