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Romney reflects on his loss in call with campaign donors
LA Times ^

Posted on 11/14/2012 3:40:05 PM PST by Arthurio

Mitt Romney told his top donors Wednesday that his loss to President Obama was a disappointing result that neither he nor his top aides had expected, but said he believed his team ran a “superb” campaign with “no drama,” and attributed his rival’s victory to “the gifts” the administration had given to blacks, Hispanics and young voters during Obama’s first term.

Obama, Romney argued, had been “very generous” to blacks, Hispanics and young voters. He cited as motivating factors to young voters the administration’s plan for partial forgiveness of college loan interest and the extension of health coverage for students on their parents’ insurance plans well into their 20s. Free contraception coverage under Obama’s healthcare plan, he added, gave an extra incentive to college-age women to back the president.

Romney argued that Obama’s healthcare plan’s promise of coverage “in perpetuity” was “highly motivational” to those voters making $25,000 to $35,000 who might not have been covered, as well as to African American and Hispanic voters. Pivoting to immigration, Romney said the Obama campaign’s efforts to paint him as “anti-immigrant” had been effective and that the administration’s promise to offer what he called “amnesty” to the children of illegal immigrants had helped turn out Hispanic voters in record numbers.

“The president’s campaign,” he said, “focused on giving targeted groups a big gift — so he made a big effort on small things. Those small things, by the way, add up to trillions of dollars.”

(Excerpt) Read more at touch.latimes.com ...


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1 posted on 11/14/2012 3:40:13 PM PST by Arthurio
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To: Arthurio

Bad investment...just like Madoff securities.


2 posted on 11/14/2012 3:43:17 PM PST by 3Fingas
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To: Arthurio

I’m sure the media will call Romney a racist just like they claimed Ryan was a racist for mentioning “urban areas.”

But the facts are the facts. Obama ran the most divisive, carve-up-the-country campaign in history.


3 posted on 11/14/2012 3:46:11 PM PST by nhwingut (Get out & Vote as if your life was on the line. Because it is.)
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To: Arthurio
Mitt....the msg of the pub party and conservatives should be that our economy is teetering and there are less people working today and a few years ago, that our fuel prices have gone up TWO bucks since the rats took over and that the war in Afghanistan is not going well....

that bamey gave trillions to his friends and put others out of their pensions....

there's no reason a conservative should ever behind the 8 ball on the economy and why it affects EVERY single American...

and Mitt...you know in your heart the election was stolen...You know it and a lot of us know it too...

4 posted on 11/14/2012 3:48:01 PM PST by cherry
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To: Arthurio

Hindsight 2012

http://www.humanevents.com/2012/11/14/hindsight-2012/#.UKQSXWv4HTg.twitter


5 posted on 11/14/2012 3:48:48 PM PST by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: nhwingut

Kinda late for the media to call him or Paul racists.
After all, they got their boy into the white hut again.


6 posted on 11/14/2012 3:50:18 PM PST by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: Arthurio

How about asking donors for money to investigate the voter fraud??


7 posted on 11/14/2012 3:50:36 PM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Arthurio

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDuA1yuQo6E

Really inspirational stuff.


8 posted on 11/14/2012 3:51:36 PM PST by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans. Don't read their lips. Watch their hands.)
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To: nhwingut

True and Romney DID NOTHING to stop it.
Romney was weak from the beginning.
If we don’t get Republicans with testosterone (men or women) we will never win, I am sick to death of wimps running as Republicans.
Maybe its time to start a new party with balls, maybe even call it the Ball Party.


9 posted on 11/14/2012 3:54:40 PM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: Arthurio

What could have been:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4c1-22w2G7M

THIS is how you talk to liberals!!!!


10 posted on 11/14/2012 3:57:27 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright ("WTF?: How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost....Again")
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To: svcw

Agreed. Although I thought towards the end, Romney didn’t need to hit home the thuggery of Obama, as (to me) he was closing his campaign with an uplifting positive message. But clearly not enough.

Bottomline: Obama paid out all his constituencies (free healthcare to the young college aged living in mom’s basement, free phones and welfare to poor minorities, Obamacare to the working poor, free birth control to young single woman, etc). And in return they came out in droves.

Romney won (big) the vote of those who work or worked (retirees) for a living.


11 posted on 11/14/2012 4:05:28 PM PST by nhwingut (Get out & Vote as if your life was on the line. Because it is.)
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To: Arthurio
his loss to President Obama was a disappointing result that neither he nor his top aides had expected, but said he believed his team ran a “superb” campaign with “no drama,”

A genuine conservative -- gifted with the incredible bounty of a six-year head start, campaign-wise, AND several hundred million or so in loose sofa change -- might conceivably accept some meager portion of the blame unto himself, for being wholly incapable of closing the sale against a sitting president responsible for real unemployment whipsawing somewhere between 18% and 22%, depending...

... and then, of course, there's Mitt Romney.

Pfffftt.

12 posted on 11/14/2012 4:21:28 PM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: Arthurio

Romney

said he believed his team ran a “superb” campaign with “no drama,”
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Good grief Willard...

If your ORCA white whale or elephant wasnt “drama” I dont know what was...


13 posted on 11/14/2012 4:39:10 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Arthurio

Romney never belonged in republican politics.

With Romney it was the little things, like leaving the republican party and eventually coming to support democrats with donations, fundraising, and even voting democrat after rejecting Reagan and his conservatism, and the Reagan revolution.

“I think Bill Weld comes as close as anyone,” Romney said when asked whom in his party he aligned with.

“I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I’m not trying to return to Reagan-Bush,”

“I’m not a partisan politician. My hope is that, after this election, it will be the moderates of both parties who will control the Senate, not the Jesse Helmses.”

“These guns are not made for recreation or self-defense. They are instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people.”


14 posted on 11/14/2012 4:43:45 PM PST by ansel12 (Todd Akin was NOT the tea party candidate, Sarah Steelman was, Brunner had tea party support also.)
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To: Tennessee Nana
If your ORCA white whale or elephant wasnt “drama” I dont know what was...

"Farce," technically, I think. ;)

15 posted on 11/14/2012 4:43:47 PM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: Arthurio

Regardless of what you think of Mitt Romney as a conservative, I, and many others here, thought he ran a good campaign given the extreme media bias and Hurricane Christy. Most thought he closed well (including the Revenge Ad) and wouldn’t suffer a defeat due to D+6 turnout. All of us were fully expecting D+2 or better for the GOP right up until the late afternoon Nov 6 exit polls rolled in. We had the Walker recall election, 2010, big rallies in PA, OH and VA and Rasmussen finding the country now is R+6 in self-identification to give us hope. All I can say these past 8 days is WTF?


16 posted on 11/14/2012 4:57:21 PM PST by BlueStateRightist
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To: Arthurio

Romney ran a great campaign, it was solid on the issues and energized the base with record crowds.

Obama gave out trillions of dollars and Romney actually gave him a race. We will probably never get another real business man or military man in the running for the Whitehouse, chances all they will be politicians who never had to earn a dime or serve our country.

Let’s bad mouth the guys who had the guts to go through the terrible process of running a race and lose because the other guy basically just bought the votes..... yea

Welcome to retail politics where performance and issues don’t matter, just need a big smile, be a minority, give away lots of stuff other people earn, and lie. Can we get a Conservative to do that ?


17 posted on 11/14/2012 4:59:47 PM PST by mike_9958
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To: mike_9958

Romney was terrible on the issues, rejecting the party platform on abortion and homosexuality was not a good thing.


18 posted on 11/14/2012 5:50:33 PM PST by ansel12 (Todd Akin was NOT the tea party candidate, Sarah Steelman was, Brunner had tea party support also.)
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To: ansel12

“Romney was terrible on the issues, rejecting the party platform on abortion and homosexuality was not a good thing.”

If those were your key issues you are right. The focal issues were jobs and economy....

I’m guessing the independents they were after didn’t focus on the social issues as much as the economic issues.

What would have been helpful was for surrogates to triangulate. The folks who lost the primary should have been campaigning for Republicans as well - meaning that they should have been funded.


19 posted on 11/14/2012 6:57:03 PM PST by mike_9958
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To: mike_9958

LOL, being a conservative site, of course those issues are important, Romney was a lousy candidate, lousy on the issues, he hurt the ticket and was devastating for conservatism.

Mitt could not even beat Carter 2.

Considering that Romney has been anti-conservative his entire life, it isn’t surprising.

The failed Massachusetts governor, father of Romney/Obama care, who considered William Weld his mentor, and Reagan so right wing that he couldn’t vote for him, was the wrong man and in the wrong party.


20 posted on 11/14/2012 7:41:40 PM PST by ansel12 (Todd Akin was NOT the tea party candidate, Sarah Steelman was, Brunner had tea party support also.)
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To: All

What most refuse to acknowledge is that it was unlikely that ANYBODY could have beaten the voter fraud planned and perpetrated by the Obama machine. They seem to prefer pointing fingers, blaming Romney and blathering on about Patraeus' sex life.



Col Allen West; "I don't want to see America become like Zimbabwe where people don’t trust their electoral process. If we cannot trust the integrity of the voting system then we are no longer a free republic".

Col West has opened the door.

We must fight election fraud.

It falls on ‘We the People’.

Silence is consent

There’s overwhelming evidence of fraud.- Here


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SARAH PALIN speaks out on Twitter about massive Obama machine voter fraud:

>Sarah Palin News ‏@SarahPalinLinks Between suppression of the military vote and voter fraud, Obama stole another election. http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/46302 …DEMAND A RECOUNT! #VoterFraud

>Sarah Palin News ‏@SarahPalinLinks People need to stop pointing fingers within the GOP and investigate the Dems' massive voter fraud and suppression of the military vote.

MITT ROMNEY TWEETS ABOUT ELECTION FRAUD:

>MITT ROMNEY in 2012! ‏@PlanetRomney #tcot The Competent Conservative: Elections Have Not Yet Been Certified, Here’s What You Can Do:

>> These electi... http://bit.ly/Zzam8Y

Here

Excerpt from Mitt Romney's reference:

These elections are NOT certified yet. The only way to get this investigated, much less recounted or overturned, is through the Secretary of State of each of the five key states: Florida, Virginia, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. EVEN IF YOU ARE IN ANOTHER STATE you can help. But it won’t do any good to dilute our effort to challenge California or Michigan or other states. Until a major group gets involved to do more, here is the plan: Contact the Secretary of State of the state in question. See contact information below...

Read the rest- Here

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The website,'Barack Obama Vote Fraud 2012' is keeping a running account of cases of voter fraud and what to do about it:

(Astonishing!) > Visit the site- Here
Sign this petition- Here

Another website:

Is There Enough Evidence of Voter Fraud To Merit a Recount? If you wish to add your voice, click here and sign the petition for a recount Here-

< Hannity and Col Allan West slam voter fraud Nov 12- Here

Photo of SOMALIANS brought to Ohio voting stations by the busload, 95% of whom did not speak English, and told to vote for Obama, straight Dem ticket- Here

Must watch videos!

VIDEO-- Programmer Testifies About Rigging Elections With Vote Counting- Here

VIDEO- Illegal Aliens Caught Voting and Stealing Elections In Florida In Vast Numbers- Here

VIDEO- MICHAEL SAVAGE: How Obama fixed the 2012 election- Here

VIDEO- Massive voter fraud discovered in April- Here

VIDEO- Whistle blower speaks out about voter fraud- Here

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We can not wait for 2014 and 2016 to regroup and figure out new strategies. By then it will be too late. The Marxist/Muslim usurper will have completed his planned distruction of America. That's what people fail to understand.

We must act NOW.

Start with the election. If we let the Rats get away with this massive voter fraud, we're no better than a bananna republic.

We must keep digging and pounding him every day, in every way we can- phony birth certificate, Benghazi, Fast and Furious, his hidden life, records....

We are FReepers. We must fight!

Those who shrug and accept this atrocity without a fight are not worthy to be called Freepers!

Join us!! See thread, 'BARACK OBAMA FRAUD 2012- (MUST READ- MUST GO VIRAL!)' thread- Here




21 posted on 11/14/2012 8:24:42 PM PST by patriot08 (Native Texan)
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To: ansel12

“he hurt the ticket and was devastating for conservatism.”

I don’t think so.. I this point in time we needed a CEO not a priest. (Although we might need a priest in 4 years)

I can overlook his history because I think he would have been good for the country and the world by setting America on it’s feet. That and I think Obama is way worse socially.

At the beginning of this we all thought the country wasn’t too far gone - that the people who voted cared about issues and the country as whole.... we was all wrong.


22 posted on 11/15/2012 11:13:47 AM PST by mike_9958
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To: mike_9958
I don’t think so.. I this point in time we needed a CEO not a priest. (Although we might need a priest in 4 years)

Romney is currently a Priest, and was the equivalent of a Catholic Bishop, Mitt Romney is the only high ranking church official to ever be the presidential nominee, and is currently in the process of becoming a God.

Romney did not start his presidential run until he received permission in a personal meeting with his Holy Prophet.

The reality is that this is today, not the day before the election, and we know that Mitt was a disaster and couldn't even beat Carter 2, Mitt proved to be everything that FR said he was.

Even now, after 20 years of running for office, and 7 years of running for president and investing 55 million dollars of his own money, no one knows what his politics are, or why he was obsessed with being president, or what his involvement in politics is about, or why he left democrat politics in October 1993, having rejected Reagan, to return to the republican party.

Romney has left no mark, no 'Romneyisms', no agenda or theme, no anything on American politics or conservatism, it is as though he never existed, unless you return to the Romney of Massachusetts and Romneycare, and the homosexual agenda.

23 posted on 11/15/2012 11:51:29 AM PST by ansel12 (Todd Akin was NOT the tea party candidate, Sarah Steelman was, Brunner had tea party support also.)
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To: ansel12

“Romney is currently a Priest”

You realize I was being sarcastic right ?

I understand Romney gives you alot of angst but I still think he would have been way better than Obama...

It sounds like you would rather have Obama and I can not imagine why... the guy has been an absolute proven failure for the last 4 years.

Yeah say Romney was the worst the Republicans could have chosen - that would still be better than Obama.

Relax, Obama is still your president. (sorry that was mean)


24 posted on 11/15/2012 1:13:16 PM PST by mike_9958
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To: mike_9958

I don’t think that you knew that he was an active priest, but I did notice that you suddenly abandoned the topic and launched into a pure personal attack of no relevance and for no reason.


25 posted on 11/15/2012 1:45:14 PM PST by ansel12 (Todd Akin was NOT the tea party candidate, Sarah Steelman was, Brunner had tea party support also.)
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To: ansel12

“launched into a pure personal attack”

I said I was sorry... right after I wrote it, yeah in retrospect I should of used the backspace key...duh

I just get tired of people blaming Romney and badmouthing him but giving Obama a pass. Like thinking if Romney was pres it would be worse the what we are going to endure for the rest of my life.


26 posted on 11/15/2012 1:52:04 PM PST by mike_9958
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To: mike_9958

Romney does not belong in republican politics at all, at any level.

Now, for all the destruction that he has brought to the party in the last 7 years, he is disappearing like a wisp of smoke, he is a chameleon that left no marks or legacy except for what lives within the left’s health care and homosexual agenda, the legacy of Mitt’s single term in political office.


27 posted on 11/15/2012 2:24:06 PM PST by ansel12 (Todd Akin was NOT the tea party candidate, Sarah Steelman was, Brunner had tea party support also.)
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To: ansel12

“Romney does not belong in republican politics at all, at any level.”

You can keep saying that - but it doesn’t make it true.

Romney was probably the last practical politician we will see in a long long time, meaning a person who didn’t grow up as politician like Obama, or Clinton or even a Rubio or Ryan. Romney made his millions the old fashion way, he earned it. So yeah, he may be a crummy politician, but he understood what it meant to serve and govern - even in a liberal state like Massachusetts.


28 posted on 11/15/2012 8:02:07 PM PST by mike_9958
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To: mike_9958

The reality is the opposite of what you described, Bishop Mitt Romney, son of Bishop George Romney, grew up in politics, liberal politics, anti-conservative, anti-Reagan politics, pro-abortion politics, taking a break to get rich, and then to exact revenge on the treatment of his political family by the right, while at the same time adding president to his score card, and fulfilling the “White Horse Prophecy” and earning the eternal gratitude of his cult.

You might not know who his parents were, 2 term Governor and anti-war presidential candidate George Romney, and pro-abortion Senate candidate mother, Lenore.

Romney has been a political animal all of his life, starting as a republican intern in his early teens, attending the 1964 convention, being an activist in college and then evading the draft, participating in campaigns and political interviews all of his life (including the 1960s), leaving the republican party because of Reagan in 1979, donating to campaigns, becoming a supporter of democrats and a democrat fund raiser and voter, and running for office for the last 20 years while spending about 55 million of his own funds and breaking spending records in multiple campaigns.

Even Ann has run for political office.

Romney isn’t practical, he isn’t anything, my guess is that you do not even know his current position on abortion and the party platform in that regard.


29 posted on 11/15/2012 8:25:29 PM PST by ansel12 (Todd Akin was NOT the tea party candidate, Sarah Steelman was, Brunner had tea party support also.)
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To: Arthurio

RINO File.


30 posted on 11/15/2012 8:32:58 PM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: ansel12

Ansel I know he started Bain and was a successful business man.

I know Reagan was a democrat - so .....

I know of his political involvement and his family’s.

I don’t know why the history of Romney is important because it is better than Obamas ?

You still seem obsessed with Romney but are giving Obama a pass, when the point is Romney is light years better than Obama would be for this country....simple


31 posted on 11/15/2012 8:52:56 PM PST by mike_9958
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To: mike_9958

I don’t know if you are just trolling or what.

What do you want, to run the loser pro-abortion, pro-homosexual, proRomneycare, lefty from Massachusetts again?

Do you want to try to make some weird connection of WWII era Reagan and the anti-Reagan Romney 60 years later?

Do you want to turn a thread called “Romney reflects on his loss in call with campaign donors”, into not discussing Romney’s loss and him as a loser?

Any conservative can see why we conservatives despise the man, what we can’t see, is why you are so devoted to him, hopefully you held your nose and voted for him out of desperation, but it is starting to look like you PREFER the anti-conservative types.


32 posted on 11/15/2012 9:12:06 PM PST by ansel12 (Todd Akin was NOT the tea party candidate, Sarah Steelman was, Brunner had tea party support also.)
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To: ansel12

Ansel - I believe you are trolling:

Who but a dem would argue against the Rep nominee and not include one bad element about Obama or the dems ?

Who but a dem would dragged up a ton of history on Romney and never once compare that to any of the Obama history ?

Who but a dem would focus solely on the social perspectives (not facts) of a man’s state of mind without observing the factual effects of his competitor on the state of Union ?

You have crossed the thin line from extreme right to actually being more useful to the left than to any conservative cause or candidate - or you are just trolling.


33 posted on 11/16/2012 5:55:58 AM PST by mike_9958
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To: mike_9958

Welcome to freerepublic and conservatives, and you seem to be pushing the left’s agenda as, now that the election is over, and the curse of the Massachusetts liberal disaster is removed from influence, you continue to push his liberal agenda, as you try to rewrite history and lie about Mitt, hoping to keep liberalism alive in the GOP.

“Ryan is a good man, but does not redeem the abortionist/homosexualist statist Romney”
Aug 11, 2012 | Jim Robinson
Posted on Sat Aug 11 2012 16:42:48 GMT-0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) by Jim Robinson
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2917406/posts


34 posted on 11/16/2012 9:30:36 AM PST by ansel12 (The only Senate seat GOP pick up was the Palin endorsed Deb Fischer’s successful run in Nebraska)
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To: ansel12

Thank you for the welcome.... and I invite you to live the conservative dream of FREEDOM rather than to fight it, or run from it. You may feel frustrated because of what you feel but be aware these are your “feelings” an not necessarily reality. And as terrible as liberal social paradigms are, you too are punishing people for what they BELIEVE rather than what they do.

Be assured the next time you turn on the news and Obama is on you can rest with thought that you are aligned with the folks that put him in office. (whether you think you are conservative or not)

And quoting Jim to me isn’t super helpful. I have great respect for Jim as a fellow conservative and entrepreneur (and programmer), but anybody who thinks the Obama administration deserved another four years is wrong, under any circumstance.

These next 4 years will take decades to unwind, and now people like you can go to sleep a night wondering how much misery have you have caused because of their “feelings”, and aligning yourself with the folks that put Obama in office. Be proud Ansel be very proud.


35 posted on 11/16/2012 10:43:59 AM PST by mike_9958
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To: mike_9958

You seem confused, this thread is a postmortem on Romney.

The election is over, you can quit campaigning for the most radical, leftist, anti-freedom republican in history, and engage in the the thread defending conservatism, and discussing Romney’s loss.

You don’t need to keep fighting for liberalism, this is about Romney’s loss, it is over for him.


36 posted on 11/16/2012 11:51:40 AM PST by ansel12 (The only Senate seat GOP pick up was the Palin endorsed Deb Fischer’s successful run in Nebraska)
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To: ansel12

“You seem confused, this thread is a postmortem on Romney.”

I don’t think I’m confused - I just don’t agree with assessment of the postmortem. I believe it is shortsighted and harmful to the conservative cause as a whole.

And I’ll quit campaigning for Romney when you quit campaigning against him, because yes Romney wasn’t the most socially conservative candidate the Repubs could have nominated, but he was nominated. And he didn’t lose because of your perceived liberal bias. Try to pay attention.

And yes, if it’s over for Romney I’d like to invite you to try to understand some other more plausible perceptions on why Romney lost instead of trying tear down a man who ran a race. Your assessment is silly. A postmortem is useful if you are honest and objective in looking at ALL the facts, not a just one that isn’t a fact but a perception based on a set of different political circumstances.

Lastly, I’m not fighting for liberalism, I’m fighting against Obama vs you who is tearing down Republicans and disenfranchising conservatives.... thereby supporting liberalism.

You’re going to get dizzy if you keep spinning....


37 posted on 11/16/2012 6:56:42 PM PST by mike_9958
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To: mike_9958

No, you are fighting for liberalism, and Mitt Romney, and whoever the next liberal is that the GOPe produces, and you are fighting against conservatism.

Your biggest complaint about conservatism is probably the social issues, they annoy liberals to no end.

You can cling to Mitt for as long as you want, but that story is over, except for the gaffes and bizarre statements that he will mess up with occasionally, but he won’t run again.

After 20 years, it is clear the man sucks as a candidate, he is only worse in office.

The most hard left man to ever lead the GOP ticket.

Mitt Romney was weaned on politics, he was born into a politically aggressive, liberal, anti-conservative family in which dad became a Governor and a national figure, ending in a liberal presidential run, and mother was a 1970 liberal Senate candidate.

Romney has always known and lived his liberal convictions, and his anti-conservative drive for revenge against the conservatives of the GOP, the Reagan/Palin/teaparty types who he shuns and insults even as he gains control of their party today.

Romney was anti-Reagan, he left the GOP and from 1989 to 1993 only gave money to, and fund raised for democrat candidates, he voted for Paul Tsongas in 1992, he was giving to and fund raising for Planned Parenthood in 1994.

His father had run against Reagan for the Presidency in 1968, Mitt Romney and his father formally protested the victory of the conservatives at the 1964 GOP convention in which Goldwater was nominated and Reagan gave his famous speech. Romney was anti-conservative in every way during the first 59 years of his life.

ROMNEYQUOTES
“Reagan was adamantly pro-choice”

“Look, I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I’m not trying to return to Reagan-Bush.”

“I’m not a partisan politician. My hope is that, after this election, it will be the moderates of both parties who will control the Senate, not the Jesse Helmses.”

“These guns are not made for recreation or self-defense,” Romney said. “They are instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people.”

“I believe that the Clinton compromise was a step in the right direction. I am also convinced that it is the first of a number of steps that will ultimately lead to gays and lesbians being able to serve openly and honestly in our nation’s military. That goal will only be reached when preventing discrimination against gays and lesbians is a mainstream concern, which is a goal we share.”

Do you think that Mitt was just merely confused a little about his core “Reaganite” beliefs during the the 1950s, 1960s, 1970s, 1980s, 1990s, and the 2000s, until 2006 at age 59 when he started his run for President, the second such run in a row for his family?


38 posted on 11/17/2012 12:18:19 AM PST by ansel12 (The only Senate seat GOP pick up was the Palin endorsed Deb Fischer’s successful run in Nebraska)
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To: Arthurio

What an uninformed rich idiot

The white young vote collapsed around 9 points in Romneys favor

Its about non whites you head in the sand goober.....all voted at least 70% Obama....some much much more

Is Mitt a freeper ...sounds like some of us

Estupido


39 posted on 11/17/2012 1:00:20 AM PST by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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To: BlueStateRightist

Blue state myopia


40 posted on 11/17/2012 1:02:22 AM PST by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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To: ansel12

“Your biggest complaint about conservatism is probably the social issues, they annoy liberals to no end.”

Listen, you have obviously got a some weird hangup, and you don’t know me so there you are again trying to attach labels based on your perceptions rather than the facts.... you are proving my point.

You really don’t get it. You feel comfortable bashing Romney but again your postmortem is short sighted and small minded.

Social issues are important from a cultural aspect yes, I don’t disagree, but you are wasting time thinking that they are or should have been a key element in the election. What you are seeing and will continue to see is a continuous erosion of the social fabric, not because people have all sudden become immoral but because they don’t care. They don’t care because they are being run over by a government out of control - they don’t have a job and pretty much feel demoralized.

So go ahead and make your silly case that Romney isn’t conservative enough while you watch “Rome” burn. Your kind of argument is strikingly parallel to the one unions just used to shutter Hostess, focusing on a small element, and not willing to compromise, while 18,500 families become unemployed... ya wonder what the social priorities are for those families when they are asking the government for food. And then you wonder who are they are going to vote for, the party that gave them food or the one that doesn’t (per MSM) ?

There’s your postmortem pal, for the next election too.


41 posted on 11/17/2012 6:49:47 AM PST by mike_9958
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To: wardaddy

“Its about non whites you head in the sand goober”

What percentage of non-whites take government aid ?

If all the people that took government aid voted for Obama that would make up for 75% of his total.

Side note:
Are Hispanics the new welfare class ? If so we don’t need immigration reform.


42 posted on 11/17/2012 6:54:41 AM PST by mike_9958
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To: mike_9958

No one is watching Rome burn except you, you want to keep promoting the liberal wing of the party, to squelch the Reagan wing, and to keep propping up Romney’s agenda and destructive influence on the GOP, and America.

I love that you anti-social conservative types are so easy to spot.

You just ran the most hard left on social issues candidate in republican history, but you still want to postmortum on the agenda that social issues are the problem.

Romney was not conservative enough, that isn’t “silly”, that is his life long politics, the kind of stuff that you keep ignoring in my posts.

Romney was anti-Reagan, anti-conservative, even anti-republican, yet he seems to have grabbed your heart and devotion. Even after the election, you still embrace his agenda, his politics, and are promoting them on this thread, trying to keep them alive, to protect his image, his influence.


43 posted on 11/17/2012 10:10:45 AM PST by ansel12 (The only Senate seat GOP pick up was the Palin endorsed Deb Fischer’s successful run in Nebraska)
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To: mike_9958; wardaddy
What percentage of non-whites take government aid ? If all the people that took government aid voted for Obama that would make up for 75% of his total. Side note: Are Hispanics the new welfare class ? If so we don’t need immigration reform.

I didn't understand your post. We know that the most republican age group is the social security collectors.

I don't know why you wouldn't look up your own data that you asked about in regards to who collects government aid, (checks?) rather than ask someone else to, we do know that 59% of whites voted GOP, and in California the GOP won 53% of whites, and I didn't understand the last sentence about Hispanics and welfare, and immigration reform.

44 posted on 11/17/2012 10:24:24 AM PST by ansel12 (The only Senate seat GOP pick up was the Palin endorsed Deb Fischer’s successful run in Nebraska)
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To: ansel12

you are still being a simpleton Ansel...

“I love that you anti-social conservative types are so easy to spot.”

I’m not anti-social conservative, in fact quite the opposite. But I am not going to allow my kids and grandkids to suffer on account of my beliefs, and in fact to do more harm than good, meaning I’ll take the lesser of two evils given the choice. Yet you are strangely comfortable with Obama as your president ?????

And no Romney wasn’t my first choice - he probably was about my third.

“No one is watching Rome burn except you” The fact you don’t think America is worse off because Obama got re-elected is to say the least disturbing, for a person who proclaims your social values.

Ansel try to read the entire post.... and to proclaim I embrace Romney’s agenda is yet another assumption of yours.... I never said that. Go back and read.

Man, talking to you is like talking to a lib - are you like 12 years old ?


45 posted on 11/17/2012 12:39:34 PM PST by mike_9958
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To: mike_9958
I’m not anti-social conservative, in fact quite the opposite. But I am not going to allow my kids and grandkids to suffer on account of my beliefs, and in fact to do more harm than good, meaning I’ll take the lesser of two evils given the choice. Yet you are strangely comfortable with Obama as your president ?????

I get it, you aren't social conservative, you merely want to fight against it as you are on this thread, your man Mitt Romney was the most anti-social conservative GOP candidate in history, yet you keep blaming his loss on the very thing that he was not, and which he rejected.

Your man ran against social conservatism, and the party platform.

46 posted on 11/17/2012 12:48:55 PM PST by ansel12 (The only Senate seat GOP pick up was the Palin endorsed Deb Fischer’s successful run in Nebraska)
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To: ansel12

“We know that the most republican age group is the social security collectors.”

What is “republican age group” ?

And the question I posed was more rhetorical to an earlier post by wardaddy... not sure what you’ll looking for ?


47 posted on 11/17/2012 5:19:25 PM PST by mike_9958
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To: ansel12

“Your man ran against social conservatism, and the party platform.”

And yet again another post by Ansel - The conservative who is “strangely comfortable with Obama” as his president. Come on I dare ya, say a bad thing about Obama....lol I’ve been watching you post on this thread for about three days now and not negative word on Obama or his campaign, in any of the posts to me.

Your posts are being contradictory in themselves now - pretty funny really.

You can’t do a deceit postmortem if you really wanted Obama to win can you Ansel - time to come out of the closet ?


48 posted on 11/17/2012 5:36:19 PM PST by mike_9958
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To: mike_9958

I didn’t understand the last sentence in post 42 about Hispanics and welfare, and immigration reform.

We know that the most republican VOTING age group is the social security collectors.

I don’t know why you wouldn’t look up your own data that you asked about in regards to who collects government aid, (checks?) rather than ask someone else to, we do know that 59% of whites voted GOP, and in California the GOP won 53% of whites, and I didn’t understand the last sentence about Hispanics and welfare, and immigration reform.


49 posted on 11/17/2012 6:08:32 PM PST by ansel12 (The only Senate seat GOP pick up was the Palin endorsed Deb Fischer’s successful run in Nebraska)
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To: mike_9958

Don’t pretend quotes, and don’t lie about posters while doing it.

Your man ran against social conservatism, and the party platform.

Do you have an explanation for why, and why now that the election is over, you keep working to promote his anti-conservative agenda and are working to give him a role in the GOP rather than supporting we conservatives who want to drive him from any chance that he might become the face of the republican party, and continue his destruction?


50 posted on 11/17/2012 6:16:18 PM PST by ansel12 (The only Senate seat GOP pick up was the Palin endorsed Deb Fischer’s successful run in Nebraska)
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