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To: drew

I am as unhappy as anyone at the results of the November 6th election.

This IMO is not the answer.

If we believe Conservatism has a better set of ideals, then we should set about to sell those ideals more convincingly to others.

If we cannot do that, then we have to accept that our ideals are so severely flawed, they can’t win the day.

I’m not going to buy into that, ever.

What we win here, has to be better than what we lose here.

If we do win states that break away, we will immediately have a massive military power on our border, that will be our enemy.

We will no longer be able to bring stability to the world. And when we can’t do that any longer, we’ll be the planetary public enemy number one, without the ability to defend ourselves.

This has massive ‘fail’ written all over it.

That being the case, I salute Sam Houston, and line up behind him.

95 posted on 11/15/2012 11:30:05 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Hurricane Sandy..., a week later and 48 million Americans still didn't have power.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Secession will end up being the ONLY answer if anyone wishes to keep what is left of their liberty and their lives from the tyranny of the Obama regime.

It will either be that - or submission to this regime being the god of their lives in order to live and survive. Recall that in all Marxist governments, those who do not serve the ideology and regime they are slaves to - live on borrowed time.

As to the ideology of Conservatism being sold to a II Timothy 3 Generation - some of the numbers of this past election bear that the ideals of conservatism are rejected by this people.

Should be no surprise considering this people in the majority have rejected God and have been busy removing him from their lives and this nation while those who claim to follow Him have become lukewarm, having only the form of religion and having no power thereof.

As Adams noted, our form of government under the Constitution “was made only for a moral and religious people, it is wholly inadequate for the governance of any other”.

We are no longer a moral or religious people, and that is the foundation liberty itself, and Conservatism was built on. Today the Ruling Class has redefined Conservatism to be a political loyalty without the need for the moral (or Social) planks.

As Franklin noted “As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters” - and that is what we are now: a vicious and corrupt nation who has empowered the State to be it’s master, and the State imposing it’s authority as Master to maintain order and control of the people.

A nation no longer under God, is a nation that is gone under.

And that is where we sadly are. A people of faith have no power or ability to reform this tyranny in D.C. Not by any means available to us except one - and there are not enough of us willing to risk that.

Therefore, we can only withdraw from supporting it and secede, or bow down and worship it.

It will be one or the other. Make no mistake.

120 posted on 11/15/2012 2:19:50 PM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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