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Generals and Geographic Bachelors
american thinker ^ | November 15, 2012 | G. Murphy Donovan

Posted on 11/15/2012 11:18:36 AM PST by Uri’el-2012

General David Petraeus illuminates two grand military issues at just the right moment: officer corps character and flag officer performance. Petraeus could be the poster child for a clueless Gilbert and Sullivan character too -- "The very model of a modern major-general." Major-general was the highest rank to which an officer might aspire to in the last century. Grade inflation has created the contemporary glut of four stars, including Petraeus.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: allin; p4; petraeus; westpoint
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1 posted on 11/15/2012 11:18:43 AM PST by Uri’el-2012
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To: UriÂ’el-2012
Petraeus could be the poster child for a clueless Gilbert and Sullivan
character too -- "The very model of a modern major-general."

2 posted on 11/15/2012 11:19:49 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

Thanks for posting.


3 posted on 11/15/2012 11:21:53 AM PST by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012
Where is NOW ?


4 posted on 11/15/2012 11:26:25 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: RummyChick
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5 posted on 11/15/2012 11:28:09 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: SkyPilot
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6 posted on 11/15/2012 11:44:48 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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7 posted on 11/15/2012 11:48:10 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

Some truth, but he’s painting with a pretty broad brush. I knew a lot of Officers who went on unaccompanied tours and didn’t fool around. Plenty of Enlisted Soldiers, too. You can make the Officer programs as moral as you want, but the cadets and candidates have 18 years of American culture before they show up for training. Honestly, don’t look to West Point or the Army for Petraeus’ problems. He is first and foremost, an American.


8 posted on 11/15/2012 11:55:59 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: UriÂ’el-2012
"The very model of a modern major-general." Major-general was the highest rank to which an officer might aspire to in the last century

Whenever I read something that blatantly inaccurate it always calls into question the rest of the piece. A major general is two stars...There were hundreds of three star (lieutenant general) and four star (general) officers in the 20th century (which was the "last century"), and even a few five stars. (I'm including admirals as well as generals...all flag officers).

9 posted on 11/15/2012 12:00:04 PM PST by clintonh8r (Happy to be represented by Lt. Col. Allen West)
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To: clintonh8r
Whenever I read something that blatantly inaccurate it always calls into question the rest of the piece.

My understanding is that when G&S wrote,
a Major General was the highest rank achievable.

10 posted on 11/15/2012 12:04:05 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

Grant was a 4 star.


11 posted on 11/15/2012 12:49:41 PM PST by Ratman83
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To: Ratman83
Are you familiar with Gilbert and Sullivan ????

12 posted on 11/15/2012 1:02:39 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012
A couple of days ago I remarked to my wife that these revelations made me really glad I retired as a Colonel. I spared myself and my family from getting involved in the corruption among the Flag ranks. At the time I retired, I didn't know how bad it was, but apparently it was pretty bad then already. Now it's incredible.
13 posted on 11/15/2012 1:09:37 PM PST by JoeFromSidney ( New book: RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY. Buy from Amazon.)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

Yep one died in 1900 Grant was a four star in the Civil War (1865 ish).


14 posted on 11/15/2012 1:09:57 PM PST by Ratman83
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To: JoeFromSidney
I once asked my dad why he never wished to be a General.

Same answer.

That was fifty years ago.


15 posted on 11/15/2012 1:27:12 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

Chop the officer corps, end rank inflation and raise the bar on honesty. Officers need to be held to the standard of gentlemen. They lie all day long to meet the “standards”.


16 posted on 11/17/2012 10:38:46 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012
Major-general was the highest rank to which an officer might aspire to in the last century. Grade inflation has created the contemporary glut of four stars, including Petraeus.

I beg to differ, there were plenty of 3 and 4 stars in the 20th. century.

17 posted on 11/17/2012 7:51:01 PM PST by Graybeard58 (What G.O.P.e. candidate is in store for us in 2016?)
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To: Graybeard58
Major-general was the highest rank to which an officer might aspire to in the last century. Grade inflation has created the contemporary glut of four stars, including Petraeus.

I beg to differ, there were plenty of 3 and 4 stars in the 20th. century.

Did you read the article ?

It was referring to British military in the 19th century
when Gilbert & Sullivan were writing the Pirates of Penzance.

The reference was to the words of Major General Song

Or the Youtube

Perhaps the satire was lost in translation.


18 posted on 11/17/2012 8:11:42 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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