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Can Romney's loss help Republicans? (the Dems now own it all...and it doesn't look good)
AmericanThinker.com ^ | 11/16/2012 | Joseph Smith

Posted on 11/16/2012 4:51:11 AM PST by RoosterRedux

Bret Stephens writes in the Wall Street Journal:

And though I have my anxieties about the president's next term, I also have a hunch the GOP dodged a bullet with Mr. Romney's loss.

... the GOP dodged ownership of the second great recession, which will inevitably hit when the Federal Reserve can no longer float the economy in pools of free money. When that happens, Barack Obama won't have George W. Bush to kick around.

Stephens's point -- that the wreckage of the past four years now belongs to Obama -- resonates in light of current events:

The stock market has nose-dived since the election, and October's $120-billion deficit is the start of a fifth straight $1-trillion-plus annual deficit -- not to mention that the economy and jobs are growing at a snail's pace.

A back-loaded ObamaCare is beginning to bite, with new taxes starting in 2013, companies cutting back benefits, and all manner of unintended consequences emerging, not the least of which is businesses coming to grips with the law by further constricting hiring. As Forbes recently observed, the health care law has hatched a "healthcare cost monster."

The EPA and other agencies have built up a regulatory cliff that rivals the fiscal cliff in potential economic damage, with no desire in a Democratic Senate to apply the brakes. And Dodd-Frank has enshrined too-big-to-fail bailouts while tying up the financial industry in endless and costly bureaucratic rulemaking.

As the regulatory chokehold tightens on the economy, Obama and the Democrats will have no one but themselves to blame.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 112th; 113th; bho44; romney2012

1 posted on 11/16/2012 4:51:19 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux

I heard the President said we’re making progresss, 5 million new jobs have been added. I’m not sure which country he is referring to, but I say give him a lot of rope, we’ll see a hanging.


2 posted on 11/16/2012 4:57:58 AM PST by rovenstinez
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To: RoosterRedux

There is now one last opportunity to compel Congress to remove Obama for ineligibility and thereby render null and void all legislation he signed and all appointments he made since 2009. It is up to the voters to compel the political leadership in Congress to remove Obama.


3 posted on 11/16/2012 5:02:18 AM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: RoosterRedux

They own it.


4 posted on 11/16/2012 5:05:32 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (In the game of life, there are no betting limits)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Well, last time I checked, the Republicans still held the majority in the House. They can either act as a firewall or roll-over.

(If Boner retains the Speakership, odds are the latter will happen.)


5 posted on 11/16/2012 5:08:36 AM PST by Arm_Bears (Re-distribute my work ethic, not my wealth!)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
As pointed out on an earlier thread ... nothing's changed.

They have the Presidency and the Senate, we have the House ... same as November 5th.

6 posted on 11/16/2012 5:09:09 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: RoosterRedux

The moochers, looters and inner city tribal parasites now outnumber the producers. You cannot beat Santa Claus. The only choices the Republican Party has is to become more conservative or become Santa Claus Light. Both are losing strategies in the current political environment. All we can do is watch the economy collapse and pick up the pieces afterwards. Unless, of course the electorate, still stuck on stupid and heading towards Idiocracy blames it all on Bush. Beam me up Scotty.


7 posted on 11/16/2012 5:09:19 AM PST by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: rovenstinez
I heard the President said we’re making progresss, 5 million new jobs have been added.

At best, if you believe him, he's referring to the gross number of jobs created in the past four years. That's a little over 100k jobs per month. The figure does NOT count the jobs LOST over the past four years.

As far as Romney's loss helping Republicans, there is now a very dark cloud around that silver lining. The House Republicans can--and likely will be painted as obstructionists by the Democratic Senate and White House. Look for a major crisis to be fabricated, and Boehner and the "Tea Party" will end up owning it, just in time for the 2014 mid-term elections. If that happens, and the Dems get all of Congress and the White House for the last two years of Obama's term, you might as well bury the United States.

8 posted on 11/16/2012 5:11:03 AM PST by Lou L (Health "insurance" is NOT the same as health "care")
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To: WhiskeyX

or we could uncover the truth about him and try to change the minds of enough electors in the Electoral College.

Chances are slim to none, but you never know. Do you suppose there are any honest electors in the Democrat party who would flip if presented with solid evidence of 0bama’s ineligibility and/or treason? Probably not.


9 posted on 11/16/2012 5:17:50 AM PST by generally (Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: RoosterRedux
the Dems now own it all...and it doesn't look good)

Not True. It only "doesn't look good" from the viewpoint of productive americans. From the viewpoint of the EBT sucking welfare parasites it looks great. Their (brown) sugar daddy was re-elected and their endless sucking the lifeblood out of those of us who WORK for a living rather than vote for a living is not threatened by someone who MIGHT have re-instated the work requirement for welfare payments.

Endless beer! Endless pot! Endless lotto tickets! Endless cigarettes! Endless daytime TV! Endless AFDC payments! All on the backs of those Americans - those evil rich - who provide the jobs and actually make this country work rather than the parasites and their bureaucratic allies in government.

From the viewpoint of an 0bama voter it looks rosey.

10 posted on 11/16/2012 5:20:08 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: RoosterRedux

You don’t have to be a grand-master to play a couple of moves into the future on this one.

The Rats spent almost a year’s worth of advertising to make Romney look like Gordon Gecko with a Charles Manson complex, and reaped the benefits of those lies in November.

The Republicans need to start right now a PR campaign laying out the dangers of the Obama’s policies of taxing, regulating, and strangling energy development. Then when the kimche hits the fan, they at least can reap some electoral benefits.

If I thought the GOP could stop or reverse the coming mess, it would be a different story. But if they don’t get ahead of it, they’ll get blamed for it, even if the Rats and the MSM have to go all the way back to Herbert Hoover to find a villain.


11 posted on 11/16/2012 5:30:47 AM PST by Stosh
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To: RoosterRedux

They will blame Congress and President Bush.

The media will eat it up and make sure that is all the public hears.


12 posted on 11/16/2012 5:31:55 AM PST by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: RoosterRedux
As long as the media is in bed with the white house, America could crash and burn and half the population wouldn't even know it.

13 posted on 11/16/2012 5:34:14 AM PST by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: RoosterRedux

The Soviets owned it for 70 years. Pravda never failed to see them making progress. The American Socialist Media is no different.


14 posted on 11/16/2012 5:36:47 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: generally

As Grandma used to say, “Can’t never did.”

There are some alternatives that could occur in the event of an extreme Constitutional crisis that involve the Electoral College and/or Congress. There ae some circumstances which even some parts of the Democrat Congress could not stomach for fear of the consequences from the electorate. The Benghazi affair in theory could spin out of control and lead to charges of Treason in a hypothetical extreme involving the Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas, and so forth.


15 posted on 11/16/2012 5:38:11 AM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: Lou L

Yes if the Republicans mis-use this opportunity:

The secret is, the GOP must set an alternate course.

Be vocal and repeat over and over the benefits of free enterprise.

Over and over and over.

Thing is, while doing that, it will be critical to support American businesses.


16 posted on 11/16/2012 5:41:32 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Stosh

Look I supported Mitt but he caused his own downfall by excluding those he defeated early.

The GOP must include everyone, especially the right.

Sarah Palin was a huge loss.

Romney needs to just back down, and we need to move on.


17 posted on 11/16/2012 5:45:44 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

You won’t get an argument from me about that aspect of Mitt’s loss.

When it comes to 2016, the major forces in conservatism (if it still exists in any strength) need to develop a mechanism well before the primary season to unite behind one conservative candidate - hopefully that way the GOP won’t spend half the election season taking out their own.

I would’ve been happy with Romney (I dread the next four years); I would have been happier if there had been a way for Perry, Newt, Cain, and Santorum to duke it out *before* the primary season, and then have the last of them standing take on Romney (or whoever else the GOP establishment would have decided to push).


18 posted on 11/16/2012 5:54:52 AM PST by Stosh
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

“When that happens, Barack Obama won’t have George W. Bush to kick around.”

Sorry, Florio, McGreevey and Corzine rode the “It’s Christy Whitman’s fault” for almost 10 years.

Obama will do the same thing. In 2016 the democrat nominee will do the same thing. George Bush is the Emmanuel Goldstein of our day.


19 posted on 11/16/2012 5:57:59 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (George W. Bush is the Emmanuel Goldsten of the modern era.)
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To: RoosterRedux

This analysis may sound like sour grapes, but I agree with it.
I told my wife before the election: whichever one wins will be despised before the four year term ends.
I expect the Dim “coalition” to collapse under the weight of economic ruin. Small consolation when we all will feel the pain, but like the Hostess workers, the fools who voted for BO will find that reality bites.


20 posted on 11/16/2012 6:01:52 AM PST by Malesherbes (- Sauve qui peut)
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To: knarf

They have the presidency, the senate and 95 percent of the MSM.
We have a few crotch kickers in the House. Not many, but a few...


21 posted on 11/16/2012 6:03:11 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (In the game of life, there are no betting limits)
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To: RoosterRedux
When that happens, Barack Obama won't have George W. Bush to kick around.

Hah hah hah, too funny! Wait, he's serious? He actually thinks the democrats will take responsibility?

22 posted on 11/16/2012 6:05:41 AM PST by pepsi_junkie (Who is John Galt?)
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To: SVTCobra03
Remember that the Democrats blamed Hoover for the Great Depression and ran against him until the 1960s. Franklin Roosevelt was elected for a third term even though the New Deal failed to pull the nation out of the Depression. Barack Obama is limited by the Constitution from doing likewise, and, except maybe for Florida and Virginia, none of the Southern or Plains states would ever approve amending the Constitution to allow him to do so. However, a Hillary Clinton or a Joe Biden or an Andrew Cuomo or an Elizabeth Warren will blame Bush, Jr., just as Roosevelt and Truman blamed Hoover. The Democrats were a corrupt party even before they became a Marxist party. Mix the ghosts of Tammany Hall, Richard Daley, and the Prendergasts with those of Saul Alinsky, Antonio Gramsci, and the Frankfurt School, and you have the modern Democrats.
23 posted on 11/16/2012 6:15:25 AM PST by Wallace T.
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To: rovenstinez
I heard the President said we’re making progress, 5 million new jobs have been added.

Can you possibly doubt him? 16,000 new armed I.R.S. agents alone to enforce obamacare, he will need many more than that.

24 posted on 11/16/2012 6:18:38 AM PST by Holly_P
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To: RoosterRedux

America is now one big plantation. We’re all slaves to the government now. Obama is the world’s 2nd largest slave owner. Second only to Red China.


25 posted on 11/16/2012 6:29:19 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (We need Comprehensive Election Reform, NOW!)
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To: RoosterRedux

I don’t know. They might give us someone even more liberal than Romney.


26 posted on 11/16/2012 6:30:39 AM PST by ari-freedom (It's the bennies, stupid.)
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To: WhiskeyX

You said: ‘There is now one last opportunity to compel Congress to remove Obama for ineligibility and thereby render null and void all legislation he signed and all appointments he made since 2009’

Unfortunately, the Rs in Congress have no intention or the guts to do this - they are only concerned about their own political future and their pockets.

In 2008 they knowingly let soetoro/obama run because they were compromised by the Dems’s resolution 511 ‘resolving’ that McCain is elig to be the president (but he is NOT), so they were obligated NOT to challenge obozo’s elig. They then thought obozo will lose to Hillary, but obozo won. Then they thought obozo will lose to McCain, but obozo won.....they have dug themselves deeper and deeper into the hole. They can’t go there for fear of implicating themselves........
They thought they will win in 2012. They are wrong again!

No one can help the stupid!

Unless they actually want to lose to obozo because they are obozo supporters???!

Either way, there is absolutely no hope for congress to throw out the usurper!

I guess it takes USA to hit rock bottom, then maybe the sleeping Americans will finally wake up, and the parasite kind find themselves sunk so low because even their messiah and big gov can’t squeeze any more from us, or print enough $, to give them any more things........

We can hope that Benghazi will remove obozo - but don’t hold your breath1

The Americans who are stupid enough to buy the lies from the liars, stupid enough not to see that they will run out of other people’s money to redistribute, simply have to learn it the hard way.
Wish we are not dragged down by these parasites.........


27 posted on 11/16/2012 6:55:19 AM PST by chrisnj
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To: Arm_Bears

Republicans, not conservatives, have a majority.
Conservatives are a minority in the party.


28 posted on 11/16/2012 7:16:58 AM PST by nomobs
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To: RoosterRedux
No, it won't help Republicans.

People will look around and see they have no jobs, no homes, no hope...And they'll SCREAM...

...BUSH'S FAULT! BUSH DID THIS! THE OBSTRUCTIONIST REPUBLICANS IN CONGRESS WOULDN'T GIVE OBAMA A CHANCE! THE REPUBLICANS WOULDN'T WORK TOGETHER WITH OBAMA! BUSH'S FAULT!

This election has strongly renewed what I've always known. It is simply impossible to overestimate the stupidity of the populace.

29 posted on 11/16/2012 7:23:31 AM PST by Wyrd bi ful ard (Gone Galt, 11/07/12)
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To: nomobs

So “Republicans” will still win if conservatives stay home?


30 posted on 11/16/2012 8:29:41 AM PST by Arm_Bears (Re-distribute my work ethic, not my wealth!)
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To: Arm_Bears

Win What? Not sure I know what they stand for. They won in 2008 and look where we are today. One continuing resolution after another, no attempt to stop anything. almost 1,000 executive orders on legislation that congress denied, and not one word from the “republicans”.

As I examine my values and the ones by the Repuclican party, I think I am the RINO.

Caving on imigration, debt, heathcare. Can you imagine how wonderful things would be if the democrats gave up on healthcare passage as easy as the republicans have given up on healthcare repeal.


31 posted on 11/16/2012 9:07:24 AM PST by nomobs
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