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Gov. Susana Martinez: Comments like Romney’s set ‘us back as a party’ (Romney thrown under bus)
http://news.yahoo.com ^ | November 15, 2012 | Chris Moody

Posted on 11/16/2012 5:24:38 AM PST by NKP_Vet

"We need to embrace them not just at election time. We visit them, and they don't appreciate that. And I don't blame them for not appreciating that. We should not visit them when we need their vote and then walk away," she said. "And then four years go by and we go visit them again. We have to make them part of the solution, and the way you do that is by listening to them. And then making that part of, 'how do we do this together to make our lives all better?'

"And then once you've done it," she added, "you tell them we did it together."

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Translation to Martinez and Bobby Jindal, the Republican Party does not need to kiss the ass of illegals. If that's what you and Jidal would like to see I suggest you switch to the other party. I am am angry white guy, and let me remind you that this country was founded by angry white guys. Romney was 100% right in saying ZERO got minority support because of welfare mentality. And let me remind you that Bush got 45% of the hispanic vote by being an open borders advocate. No other reason.
1 posted on 11/16/2012 5:24:41 AM PST by NKP_Vet
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To: NKP_Vet

Gag....we really do need a third party desperately.


2 posted on 11/16/2012 5:27:50 AM PST by txrefugee
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To: NKP_Vet

“I suggest you switch to the other party.”

That’s exactly what I told my husband yesterday. A party already exists that hates America. It’s the Democrat party. Rubio, Jindel, et al., need to go there and help with the destruction of our country. We don’t need jackals internally.


3 posted on 11/16/2012 5:28:53 AM PST by MayflowerMadam
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To: NKP_Vet

“Oh goodness - we really shouldn’t say anything that will upset liberals and democrats - they might not vote for us!”


4 posted on 11/16/2012 5:30:01 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (You are not now, and will never be my President, Mr. Obama.)
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To: NKP_Vet

It’s not la inmagracion that’s the issue.
It’s la mierda gratis.


5 posted on 11/16/2012 5:31:27 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: NKP_Vet
(Romney thrown under bus)


6 posted on 11/16/2012 5:33:45 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: NKP_Vet

Well she’s committed to setting up the Obamacare health care exchange in New Mexico and will probably agree to the Medicaid expansion as well. Anyone thinking of backing her in 2016 should be careful.


7 posted on 11/16/2012 5:39:34 AM PST by paglia444
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To: NKP_Vet

These people P me off to no end. I am of Italian heritage...that does not mean I believe the whole Italian peninsula should be able to migrate here free of hurdles. My wife is Irish and feels the same way about Ireland. Why is it we feel that we have to let everyone come here and become citizens overnight? Citizenship means something to me. My grandfather served in WWI, my dad in WW2 and me during Vietnam. We ALL enlisted because we loved our country. It used to be if you came here, you had to meet the “quota” AND had to have a sponsor so you did not go on the dole. What happened to that? Why have we become a dormat country?? What the hell happened with our national spirit? Some have said my country left me, I did not leave it. Well, perhaps the way to look at it is the country has seceeded from its roots. Call it what you want but those who feel like I deserve their nation back or another one in its place. To the dems and the RINO’s who feel other than I do, good ridance to bad garbage.


8 posted on 11/16/2012 5:44:12 AM PST by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

yeah Romney threw conservatives under the bus for years


9 posted on 11/16/2012 5:46:10 AM PST by ari-freedom (It's the bennies, stupid.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
No one, no one is probably enjoying that title more than Sarah. The skid marks on her back from the buses she was thrown under and now all the suspects that did it, ergo Kristol, Noonan, Rove, the Romneybots for 4 yrs etc are now looking for a napkin to wpie off the egg on their faces.

My guess is she knew they had it out for her and took a powder.

In her heart then, the question begs did she know Romney would be this much of a loser, or that the Obamatons had it rapped up with their physc-ops of free-stuff.

If she did her move was wiser than any of the punditry class will ever give her credit for.

And the E-GOP looses 2 in a row, running the It's my turn and I am the one the blue-haired East Coast E-GOP-ers wanted candidate.

It is time for us to leave the E-GOP, they have left us...

10 posted on 11/16/2012 5:49:37 AM PST by taildragger (( Tighten the 5 point harness and brace for Impact Freepers, ya know it's coming..... ))
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To: NKP_Vet

Lots of Repubicans are hanging hopes on Martinez just as they are with Rubio, but the times I’ve heard direct quotes from her, she seemed more likely to end up in the RINO wing of the party than in the more principled wing.


11 posted on 11/16/2012 5:51:03 AM PST by Will88
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To: Mouton

Romney lost because he offered jobs to country where 51% of the people do not want to work.


12 posted on 11/16/2012 5:53:16 AM PST by NKP_Vet
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To: NKP_Vet

Romney was right about a couple of things during this campaign. We need to lower tax RATES and BROADEN the tax base. Unfortunately we won’t see that happen. Primarily though, what he got right, and is the elephant in the room, is we have more takers than ever in this country. How we win the Presidency is we need a principled candidate who is a true conservative and can convince enough takers that they can have the opportunity to become a maker and be better for it in the end. Who out there in our so-called “deep bench” actually espouses conservatism to the extent that they can passionately write about it and communicate it to the masses? We know that Reagan wrote volumes on his conservative beliefs. Others focused only about certain aspects (Kemp - fiscal, Cheney - foreign policy, etc.) Who can do the total package? That’s who we need to find in these next 3 years. Is that person out there?


13 posted on 11/16/2012 5:53:38 AM PST by castowell (I am Andrew Breitbart!)
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To: NKP_Vet

When is the treatment of American citizens in Mexico and their rights vs US treatment of Mexicans going to be an issue when we discuss amnesty ?

Ever hear of reciprocal aggrements ? These are arranged to protect the rights of American citizens working or living in other countries.

Why is it when it comes to citizens of other countries we are required to offer them the same privledges as we do to US citizens? But when it comes to US citizens who get in trouble or attempt to do business in other countries they do not get the same treatment their citizens get.

Americans can’t own coast land in Mexico. And get no title to it elsewhere. If they run out of cash they’ll get unceremoniously sent back or put in jail untill some relative comes up with the “fresh”. That’s just for starters as for granting them voting privledges yea let’s give Mexican citizens that right when American citizens vote in their elections .


14 posted on 11/16/2012 5:53:52 AM PST by mosesdapoet ("A voice crying in the wilderness make streight for the way of the Lord")
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To: taildragger

“...did she know Romney would be this much of a loser...”

She was the only commentator on Fox that showed emotion on election night. She was upset because of what Obambi’s reelection meant for her country. It is not all about her. She actually wanted Romney with his liberal warts and all to win.

She should have run herself but I don’t know what the results in the primary would have been.


15 posted on 11/16/2012 5:58:13 AM PST by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: NKP_Vet

In other words, Romney should have been like Obama. Just stick to the lies. The dumbasses living in the country won’t know any better. Never tell the truth.


16 posted on 11/16/2012 6:02:56 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (We need Comprehensive Election Reform, NOW!)
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To: Will88

“Lots of Repubicans are hanging hopes on Martinez just as they are with Rubio, but the times I’ve heard direct quotes from her, she seemed more likely to end up in the RINO wing of the party than in the more principled wing.”

yeah but at least Rubio has the ‘it’ factor. I don’t think Martinez has what it takes to even get rino’s excited.


17 posted on 11/16/2012 6:03:08 AM PST by ari-freedom (It's the bennies, stupid.)
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To: NKP_Vet
If you read it she was critical of the 47% comment that Romney made during the election campaign, not his later sore loser comment.

Romney insulting voters ahead of time in the campaign and then losing to O is a big reason why the remainder of party is panicking and calling for amnesty. If he was a winner there would be little pressure to do something as bad as amnesty.

Keep insulting voters and losing elections and the R party will just become serfs to dems. Romney was a crap candidate.

18 posted on 11/16/2012 6:05:30 AM PST by sickoflibs (How long before cry-Bohner caves to O again? They took the House for what?)
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To: Monterrosa-24
She was the only commentator on Fox that showed emotion on election night. She was upset because of what Obambi’s reelection meant for her country. It is not all about her. She actually wanted Romney with his liberal warts and all to win.

Yes she was, and it was the same pain on her face that she had a week before she said she wouldn't run. She couldn't hide it, unlike Rove who is a voyeur, and never done it himself she has won and lost races and could see the trend, she knew....

19 posted on 11/16/2012 6:05:37 AM PST by taildragger (( Tighten the 5 point harness and brace for Impact Freepers, ya know it's coming..... ))
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To: Monterrosa-24

Palin would have beat all candidates, except for maybe Romney - he was the problem.

He came into the race as the money. Big big financial background, and ran a smart (as far as fighting Republicans anyway) candidate.

Palin backed off. It looked like she had second-thoughts about Romney, but I think also her girls were growing up through that age where a lot happens. Palin called her girls first.

I hope now that they’ve grown, Palin will be back with a vengeance.


20 posted on 11/16/2012 6:06:38 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: taildragger; ari-freedom
The functional maladroits of Team Mittens -- both online shills and campaign (*cough*cough*)"professionals" -- spent the entire first half of the campaign (when virtually every legitimate polling outfit showed them trailing Obama... badly) incessantly chittering and shrilling: "Don't Believe The Polls! DON'T BELIEVE THE EVIL, EVIL POLLLLLLLLLLLLLLSSSSSSS --!!!"

When the continual cascade of No Good, Very Bad Polling Data continued unabated regardless, said maladroits -- rather than dealing forthrightly with the increasingly dire reality of their candidate's situation -- actively CHOSE to relocate, en masse, to a happy, magical la-la land of talking bunny make-believe. (E.g. "unskewedpolls.com"; "Lunch Alerts!" featuring bucktoothed wish-casting from notorious grifter Dick Morris; etc., etc., ad infinitum, ad nauseum.)

... and now, today: rather than sacking up, like adults, and finally admitting that their cherished baseline assumptions ("Sacrifice the Conservative Base for 'Moderates'"; "You Really CAN Beat a Socialist with Socialist Lite!"; etc.) might have been, just maybe, wrong a teeny tiny little bit... they simply throw their hands up in the air, and huff exasperatedly: "Well, then, nobody could have won, darn it!"

Never, ever again will you (or I) live to witness such a perfect storm of mulish, blinkered GOP-e electoral incompetence and insanity as we've been treated to, these past twelve months or so.

God willing.

21 posted on 11/16/2012 6:07:58 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
I hope now that they’ve grown, Palin will be back with a vengeance.

And start a Conservative party. Make those N.E. Bull-Haired Rino B@$tards reach for the Kaopectate as they loose 1/2 if not more of the GOP as they go the way of the Wigs, we are so over them.

22 posted on 11/16/2012 6:09:33 AM PST by taildragger (( Tighten the 5 point harness and brace for Impact Freepers, ya know it's coming..... ))
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
I hope now that they’ve grown, Palin will be back with a vengeance.

What... a genuine, principled CONSERVATIVE running for the presidency, you mean...?

You mad, wild-eyed dreamer, you. ;)

23 posted on 11/16/2012 6:12:47 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: NKP_Vet

Susan Martinez says

“We need to embrace them not just at election time. We visit them, and they don’t appreciate that. And I don’t blame them for not appreciating that. We should not visit them when we need their vote and then walk away,”

I assume she is talking about conservatives. This is good advice.


24 posted on 11/16/2012 6:14:40 AM PST by Kentfromohio
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To: NKP_Vet

Romney was an idiot. He lost because he dumped the one thing the RNC was good at... GOTV... for an untested failure called Orca that was under the control of his team in Boston.

There is literally no other way to describe the drop in votes for him in 2012 vs. McCain in 2008.


25 posted on 11/16/2012 6:14:56 AM PST by rwilson99 (Please tell me how the words "shall not perish and have everlasting life" would NOT apply to Mary.)
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To: NKP_Vet

Martinez is right about needing to engage the community more regularly.

We don’t have to pander. We can stick to our principles, but we need to make sure we communicate those and explain to people the benefits conservative economic policies have on their personal lives.

Currently, the DEMs are in front of them 24 / 7 telling them we hate them and want to see them fail. If we are not there to counter the message, sad as it may be, those notions become cemented, and we lose elections.

That needs to change or our party will indeed perish.


26 posted on 11/16/2012 6:17:22 AM PST by comebacknewt (Newt (sigh) what could have been . . .)
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To: NKP_Vet

I see, the truth is too expensive, eh?

Whatever good I thought of Jindal went out the window when he started whining about this.

That’s all I need to know, I wouldn’t vote for him in a primary now.


27 posted on 11/16/2012 6:17:45 AM PST by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Will88

Martinez is SO good for the RINO pub party and Romney...
She really delivered her state for he status quo...
Buh bye, pubs.....


28 posted on 11/16/2012 6:19:56 AM PST by matginzac
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To: MrB

“It’s la mierda gratis.”

Great tag line and/or bumper sticker. Love it!


29 posted on 11/16/2012 6:21:22 AM PST by MayflowerMadam
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To: NKP_Vet

Unfortunately, Gov. Martinez is a pro-amnesty granddaughter of illegals.


30 posted on 11/16/2012 6:23:23 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: NKP_Vet
Romney was 100% correct in his analysis.

"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largess out of the public treasury. After that, the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits with the result the democracy collapses because of the loose fiscal policy ensuing, always to be followed by a dictatorship, then a monarchy."

- Attributed to Prof. Alexander Frazer Tytler; 1747-1813, lawyer and writer.


31 posted on 11/16/2012 6:30:25 AM PST by Iron Munro ("Jiggle the Handle for Barry!")
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To: NKP_Vet

Repeat after me: “Democrats win by making welfare queens of voters.”

“Democrats win by making welfare queens of voters.”

“Democrats win by making welfare queens of voters.”

“Democrats win by making welfare queens of voters.”

“Democrats win by making welfare queens of voters.”

“Democrats win by making welfare queens of voters.”

Are you RINO’s getting it? One more time...

“Democrats win by making welfare queens of voters.”


32 posted on 11/16/2012 6:31:00 AM PST by veritas2002
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To: txrefugee

For me, It really felt good to leave the R party. Being an I isn’t so bad.


33 posted on 11/16/2012 6:39:28 AM PST by hope
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To: veritas2002

I agree. Democrats - the party of Santa.


34 posted on 11/16/2012 6:42:56 AM PST by Girlene
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To: NKP_Vet

“”We need to embrace them not just at election time. We visit them, and they don’t appreciate that. And I don’t blame them for not appreciating that. We should not visit them when we need their vote and then walk away,” she said. “And then four years go by and we go visit them again. We have to make them part of the solution, and the way you do that is by listening to them. And then making that part of, ‘how do we do this together to make our lives all better?’”

Does anyone know what in the Hades this woman is talking about. I am what leftists would term a melanin deficient, European descended person of non-color who does not get “visited” ANY TIME, EXCEPT WHEN I AM EXPECTED TO PAY THE BILLS FOR THE “GIFTS” TO BUY VOTES THAT ROMNEY WAS ACCURATELY TALKING ABOUT.

Susana, we’re glad to have you in the Republican party, but don’t expect pandering from us. I don’t expect to be “visited” year-round, nor do I want to be pandered to. Instead, a simple “thank you” from you for working, paying taxes, taking care of myself, and not being a leech on society would be most appropriate.


35 posted on 11/16/2012 6:47:24 AM PST by SharpRightTurn ( White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: txrefugee

Gag....we really do need a third party desperately.

We really needed one IMMEDIATELY after liberal Romney was nominated. Too late for that though.


36 posted on 11/16/2012 6:51:08 AM PST by napscoordinator (GOP Candidate 2020 - "Bloomberg 2020 - We vote for whatever crap the GOP puts in front of us.")
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To: castowell

Yes, Romney’s solutions actually addressed the issues. Obama did not offer any solution to our core problems. His raise taxes on the rich do not solve anything, and he will not cut spending. We’ll have all the same problems two years from now and four years from now. Our side needs to focus on not being blamed. Last year during the debt ceiling discussions, Obama successfully pushed blame to the GOP, despite the facts.

In the next two years, our side would be wise to capitulate on some of the big things, but make fundamental changes that do just what you said to broaden the tax base. We need to tinker with the the existing rules at the lower ends so less people get free money from the tax system and less people pay zero. It will have to be tinkering, not major change because Obama will use that as a hammer to show us as anti-poor. If we could even move the needle 1 percent and get some lower middle class to shift from taker to maker, it would pay dividends.


37 posted on 11/16/2012 6:59:02 AM PST by ilgipper (Obama supporters are comprised of the uninformed & the ill-informed)
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To: NKP_Vet
Gov. Susana Martinez: Comments like Romney’s set ‘us back as a party’ (Romney thrown under bus)

Romney was actually thrown under a truck.

38 posted on 11/16/2012 7:00:28 AM PST by Isabel C.
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To: ari-freedom

Rubio was not born to US citizens, his parents were Cuban citizens until 1975
let’s not go there just because the democrats got away with it


39 posted on 11/16/2012 7:08:51 AM PST by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: NKP_Vet
So what Romney said is insulting to Hispanics because it implies that they are lazy. Well let's grant them all limited citizenship and see what happens. All illegal children should be identified and the costs associated with educating them should be funded by the Mexican government and teachers unions. Then none of the citizens should be allowed to vote for the period of time that it would take for them all to work through a virtual line the follows the normal naturalization time period. That is if they were all in line, and the 5 millionth person would take 20 years to be naturalized, then they wait 20 years to vote. Finally any business that employs an illegal currently, must pay a surcharge that equals the difference between what the illegal is paid vs. a native would be paid for the same job if the illegal was not there, that money should go to local government to offset the cost government programs. So in the end all of the beneficiaries of illegals either politically or monetarily should lose those benefits, then we'll see how badly illegals and their supporters really want them to be citizens.
40 posted on 11/16/2012 7:45:16 AM PST by throwback (The object of opening the mind, is as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid.)
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To: NKP_Vet

(Romney thrown under bus)
_________________________________________

its getting crowded under that there bus...

thats where Willard threw the Conservative GOP candidates


41 posted on 11/16/2012 7:49:39 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: veritas2002
The Democrat Party...its existence is predicated upon keeping its members:
Dumb...
Depressed...
Dependent...
AND...Democrat...

42 posted on 11/16/2012 8:04:13 AM PST by Stand Watch Listen
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle; Diogenesis

Heh...I guess Team Romney is now finding out what it feels like to be backstabbed and cast aside, considering what they did to Sarah Palin after the 2008 election.


43 posted on 11/16/2012 8:17:50 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Timber Rattler
Karma is a cruel, harsh mistress... but, ultimately: a fair one. ;)
44 posted on 11/16/2012 8:21:40 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: ari-freedom

I thought Rubio was ineligible.


45 posted on 11/16/2012 8:24:20 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: NKP_Vet

Martinez is talking about legal Hispanics.

I assume that legal Hispanic voters are OK to pursue. They tend to be Catholic or Evangelical, so they are taught a basic work ethic. That also means they are pro-life, pro-natural relationships, and pro-family.

She says to listen to their solutions to problems.

I think Romney would have been better served choosing Martinez as his running mate. She was a district attorney prior to her governorship, and she was an accomplished woman. She was seriously pro-life, and the weakness would have been she was only half way through her first term as governor. That might have reminded the media of Sarah Palin.

A Hispanic female in a pro-Obama state would have been just as good as a muzzled white guy from a pro-Obama state, and maybe even better.

Although, Romney was so cautious he probably would have muzzled her, too.


46 posted on 11/16/2012 8:32:42 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins

I would think Legal Hispanics who did it the right way would be the most against illegal immigration, they played by the rules, why shouldn’t they.....but I never hear any Republican state this.


47 posted on 11/16/2012 8:34:16 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

I agree. I’m betting legal Hispanics don’t want illegals flooding over the border and taking jobs and ruining pay-scales.

At the same time, it’s probably annoying to have your citizenship questioned every time you turn around.


48 posted on 11/16/2012 8:48:13 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins

“That also means they are pro-life, pro-natural relationships, and pro-family”

They might say they are pro-life and pro-natural relationships, but the 71% percent of them that voted for ZERO proves they are hypocrites that puts free government handouts above their faith.


49 posted on 11/16/2012 8:48:47 AM PST by NKP_Vet
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To: sickoflibs

“If you read it she was critical of the 47% comment that Romney made during the election campaign, not his later sore loser comment”.

This comment was made by Romney, behind closed doors, to a bunch of campaign donors. It was not intended for public consumption. Jimma Cahta’s worthless ass grandson is the one gave the video to the ZERO worshipping press and they ran with it. ZERO’s tactics to get the advantage over an opponent is usually divorce cases or trying to smear the opponent with lies and other BS, like floating the idea that Romney was the cause of a woman dying from cancer. This dispicable SOB will go to any length to stay in power. Democrats are the lowest of the low. Bottom feeders of the worse order.


50 posted on 11/16/2012 8:54:54 AM PST by NKP_Vet
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