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Recount early votes in Patrick Murphy-Allen West race
Palm Beach Post ^ | November 16, 2012 | Andrew Marra

Posted on 11/16/2012 5:57:31 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER

“I’m not perfect,” St. Lucie County Elections Supervisor Gertrude Walker said Tuesday. “Neither is my staff.” Given the events of the past week, it’s hard to disagree. Because of her office’s flawed handling of last week’s election, uncertainty hangs needlessly over Patrick Murphy’s stunning defeat of Rep. Allen West. Ms. Walker was stating the obvious when she admitted fallibility at a news conference, as reported by TCPalm.com. But when you’re overseeing a congressional election whose margin of victory is less than 1 percent, there isn’t much room for error.

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TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: allenwest; election; fl2012; patrickmurphy; recount; stlucie; west
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1 posted on 11/16/2012 5:57:42 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

“After partially recounting some of the early voting results on Sunday, her office discovered that it had double-counted the equivalent of 799 votes in the Murphy-West race and named the wrong winner in Fort Pierce’s mayoral race.”

Wait a second... why are the same people who screwed up the first count trusted to do the recount? Tbat’s insane.


2 posted on 11/16/2012 6:03:33 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman
They should bring in certified machines and an unbiased crew and recount EVERYTHING.

Nothing Gertrude Walker touches is reliable.

3 posted on 11/16/2012 6:06:38 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Boogieman

Except in the recount there will be a lot more people watching the recount and the recount officials!
Maybe even a few Republicans watching-I bet a good number of tea party people will be there


4 posted on 11/16/2012 6:07:33 AM PST by Maine Mariner
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To: sickoflibs; SWAMPSNIPER

Are you on board with calling for a full handcount of all votes down there in St Lucie???

<>“Last night during a press conference, the Supervisor announced her office had determined that approximately 3,650 ballots were double-counted on election night, and approximately 1,950 ballots were not counted at all, with all ballots coming from the last three days of early voting – which is what was retabulated on Sunday. However, if this information is accurate, the total vote in the county should have decreased by 1,700 votes after the Sunday retabulation. Instead the total votes cast declined by 799. It simply does not add up.<>

http://www.allenwestforcongress.com/2012/11/14/gertrude-walkers-math-simply-doesnt-add-up/


5 posted on 11/16/2012 6:07:41 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

She might be on the verge of losing her “vote counter’s bonus” money if she recounts all of the ballots cast!

You’re heartless! ;D


6 posted on 11/16/2012 6:09:49 AM PST by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: Maine Mariner
We've had troops on the ground for days, I think some are even standing watch at night. There are a lot of little old Grannies down there ready to walk through fire if LTC West needs it done.

Rallies are planned for all day today.

7 posted on 11/16/2012 6:12:12 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
The low life bastards steal the election, right out in the open.

No fear, no shame, no remorse.

I travel to St. Lucie County every year in the winter, unless this election is reversed, I'll not stay there this year or ever.

There are many golf courses in Florida and I can spend my money elsewhere.

I'll admit it is only a small gesture but if 10% of the snowbirds stay elsewhere, maybe they will get the message, and I'll be sure to write a letter to the editor of the Ft. Pierce liberal rag and let them know they a couple of thousand Yankee dollars, and why.

8 posted on 11/16/2012 6:12:12 AM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages, start today.)
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To: USS Alaska

When they messed with Allen West they messed with the wrong guy!


9 posted on 11/16/2012 6:14:03 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Uncle Chip

This is unreal. Too bad no one is looking into what they did with Obama votes.


10 posted on 11/16/2012 6:14:35 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

They wanted badly to take Allen West down.

How dare he question his masters! How dare he succeed without the blessings of the Democrat party and liberal leftist affirmative action policies! (/sarcasm off)


11 posted on 11/16/2012 6:17:25 AM PST by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

This gang of democrats are so inept they can’t even cheat without screwing it up.


12 posted on 11/16/2012 6:18:47 AM PST by Iron Munro ("Jiggle the Handle for Barry!")
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To: RummyChick
Gertrude Walker. Let me guess which one is Gertrude.
13 posted on 11/16/2012 6:23:17 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: Uncle Chip; SWAMPSNIPER
RE :”Are you on board with calling for a full handcount of all votes down there in St Lucie???”

??? This is a far away the other topics we were on on the other thread, but the West election was a close one and he is the candidate so he should challenge these.

The Maine R Chairman wasnt calling for anything like this. He was just making excuses.

Also those Philly claims look bogus too, those districts voted against McCain too. They are heavily Dem and black and there was zero chance Romney would win there. No one would call for a recount there,

14 posted on 11/16/2012 6:26:02 AM PST by sickoflibs (How long before cry-Bohner caves to O again? They took the House for what?)
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To: sickoflibs; All
One thing to consider, win or lose this race Allen West is showing conservatives how to fight.

Where might we be if we'd been fighting effectively all along?

15 posted on 11/16/2012 6:30:24 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Boogieman
double-counted the equivalent of 799 votes in the Murphy-West race and named the wrong winner in Fort Pierce’s mayoral race.”

Wow! Electoral fraud provably reversed the outcome of an election! If Big Media were anything other than the propaganda arm of the demonicRat Party, this would be national news.

16 posted on 11/16/2012 6:32:05 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
“I’m not perfect,” St. Lucie County Elections Supervisor Gertrude Walker...

Apparently she and her staff are not capable of counting; "1, 2, 3, ..." without screwing it up.

17 posted on 11/16/2012 6:38:56 AM PST by Flick Lives (We're going to be just like the old Soviet Union, but with free cell phones!)
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To: sickoflibs; tsowellfan
The Maine R Chairman wasnt calling for anything like this. He was just making excuses.

Perhaps -- but the reports of blacks voting up in Maine counties may have been true -- just miscontrued. They were probably Somalis who had just moved up there and they stood out for obvious reasons.

18 posted on 11/16/2012 6:41:58 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

According to this article there is a hearing scheduled today at 1 PM before a St. Lucie County Circuit Court judge.

http://www.tcpalm.com/news/2012/nov/16/judge-hear-wests-case-today-full-recount-all-early/?partner=RSS

ST. LUCIE COUNTY — A St. Lucie County Circuit Court judge has scheduled a hearing at 1 p.m. today for U.S. Rep. Allen West’s latest St. Lucie challenge for an election recount.


19 posted on 11/16/2012 6:43:56 AM PST by deport
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To: Uncle Chip; tsowellfan
RE :’Perhaps — but the reports of blacks voting up in Maine counties may have been true — just miscontrued. They were probably Somalis who had just moved up there and they stood out for obvious reasons.”

I agree with tsowellfan's analysis of Somalis’s views towards American blacks on the other thread. I have seen that myself here with other African immigrants. Ironically both groups feel a kinship to O, but I think the immigrants do more.

20 posted on 11/16/2012 6:48:33 AM PST by sickoflibs (How long before cry-Bohner caves to O again? They took the House for what?)
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To: deport

Yep, the rallies are beginning about now at the elections office and later at the courthouse.


21 posted on 11/16/2012 6:58:22 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: sickoflibs
That's not the point that I was making.

The point is that Webster in Maine was not lying when he told a Portland TV station that:

in rural Maine towns, "dozens of black people" unknown to local officials showed up to vote on election day.

Given that these "dozens of black people" may have been Somalis who recently moved up there, where was Webster lying???

22 posted on 11/16/2012 6:59:33 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
““I’m not perfect,” St. Lucie County Elections Supervisor Gertrude Walker “

We're not even discussing perfection. I think we're choosing between woefully incompetent and intentionally fraudulent.

23 posted on 11/16/2012 7:06:42 AM PST by Gil4 (Progressives - Trying to repeal the Law of Supply and Demand since 1848)
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To: RummyChick
This is unreal. Too bad no one is looking into what they did with Obama votes.

There are about 5,000 ballots in St Lucie with only the Presidential race blacked out and nothing else -- not even the House and/or Senate races that were likewise hotly contested -- out of 125,000 ballots.

I wonder if somebody could compare that with other districts in Florida and/or elsewhere to see how common that is or if that is just plain old fashioned ballot box stuffing that never raises an eyebrow anymore.

24 posted on 11/16/2012 7:07:28 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: deport

If there was not massive voter fraud the commissioner in charge of voting in St Lucie County would insist on a complete and total recount of the early votes. This would eliminate any hint of fraud.

Right now this is not only about Allen West’s stolen election. The commissioner knows she has a damn good chance of going to jail if a complete and honest recount is done.


25 posted on 11/16/2012 7:07:39 AM PST by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud Man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist. THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: Uncle Chip
RE :”Given that these “dozens of black people” may have been Somalis who recently moved up there, where was Webster lying??? “

He was calling it voter fraud but if they lived there and voted legally (for O I assume) then that is not true. Your point is he just made a mistake?

There was no reason pointing this out if he wasnt claiming fraud. Crying voter fraud when you have little or no evidence of it is a sign of bad character either way.

26 posted on 11/16/2012 7:08:07 AM PST by sickoflibs (How long before cry-Bohner caves to O again? They took the House for what?)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER; All
Yep, the rallies are beginning about now at the
elections office and later at the courthouse.
thanks, for being an "eyes-on-the-spot" reporter...
See Media, If you could just report what is happening (truthfully) you'd be called an
J-O-U-R-N-A-L-I-S-T; instead of mealymouthed S.O.B. / B@$@r$d DNC Propagandist.

27 posted on 11/16/2012 7:17:08 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (Anger a Conservative by telling a lie; Anger a Liberal by telling the truth....RWR 8-)
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To: sickoflibs
Your point is he just made a mistake?

He referred to what happened as "possible voting irregularities" that need to be looked into. Are you against that???

If somebody reports possible vote fraud is he a pariah???

No wonder there is no vote fraud ever prosecuted. Those who suspect it are afraid to report it because they won't be welcome to the party.

According to the article:

Webster said he has identified five "pockets" of the state where he has concerns about voting irregularities. He would not identify those areas, but said he plans to mail "Thank You" cards to all of the newly registered voters. If a large number of cards are returned because the addresses are invalid, Webster said, he will know he is on to something.

Is he a pariah for doing this too???

28 posted on 11/16/2012 7:26:24 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

“After admitting such an egregious error, Ms. Walker wants the public to trust her....” -—— TRUST ME ???????, after you’ve been found out, you say ‘you’ve got to trust me’...HooooBoy...


29 posted on 11/16/2012 7:38:27 AM PST by virgil283 (Telling the truth is a revolutionary act)
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To: Uncle Chip

“Webster said he has identified five “pockets” of the state where he has concerns about voting irregularities. He would not identify those areas, but said he plans to mail “Thank You” cards to all of the newly registered voters. If a large number of cards are returned because the addresses are invalid, Webster said, he will know he is on to something.”

whose making sure this is being done in Ohio, Wisconsin, Colorado and Pennsylvania?


30 posted on 11/16/2012 7:41:51 AM PST by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: Boogieman
This is just a snapshot of what is going on in hundreds of precincts around the country, I'm afraid.
31 posted on 11/16/2012 7:42:45 AM PST by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: skinkinthegrass

THE SUN NEVER SETS ON FREE REPUBLIC!!


32 posted on 11/16/2012 7:44:34 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Uncle Chip
RE :’He referred to what happened as “possible voting irregularities” that need to be looked into. Are you against that???
If somebody reports possible vote fraud is he a pariah???
No wonder there is no vote fraud ever prosecuted. Those who suspect it are afraid to report it because they won't be welcome to the party.”

Party chairman.

He gets a list of those who voted and their party affiliation and is in a great place to start an investigation.

And yes he is pariah for making these public statements to cover his failures as chairman. His successful intent can be seen on this thread with so many comments declaring a crime being acted based on his public statements.

Trying to stir up trouble by making public charges with no evidence is not ‘reporting it’, its sleazy. It's Trump like and it covers for real election fraud as the ‘Boy who cried Wolf’ covered for the wolf

33 posted on 11/16/2012 7:47:55 AM PST by sickoflibs (How long before cry-Bohner caves to O again? They took the House for what?)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

MTW..IMHO..this recount is such a thrash because the Dems KNOW a full, supervised, FLa recount will go to Romney...


34 posted on 11/16/2012 7:54:02 AM PST by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: mo
When I read about legal GOP observers being forced out of precincts and that they didn't dig in and fight on the spot it sickens me.

What the Hell were they thinking?

35 posted on 11/16/2012 8:00:16 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Uncle Chip
I am sure he got a few angry phone calls :

Webster Apologizes For "Black People" Comment (WGAN ,November 16, 2012)

36 posted on 11/16/2012 8:00:38 AM PST by sickoflibs (How long before cry-Bohner caves to O again? They took the House for what?)
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To: sickoflibs; mo
And yes he is pariah for making these public statements to cover his failures as chairman.

Are you a mind reader???

It sounds to me as if he is just doing his job as party chairman that so many others around the country are not doing for fear of being singled out like he is.

Is he a pariah for sending out the postcards to check on voter registrations???

Should party chairmen in battleground states do the same thing in Ohio, PA, Wisconsin, Fla, VA or are they going to be accused of looking for excuses as well???

37 posted on 11/16/2012 8:01:10 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: sickoflibs
I am sure he got a few angry phone calls

And most of them were from Dems.

38 posted on 11/16/2012 8:09:09 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip
RE “It sounds to me as if he is just doing his job as party chairman that so many others around the country are not doing for fear of being singled out like he is. ‘

If he didnt want attention then he should stop trying to cause trouble with nonsense like this crying Wolf publically. Being right means never having to say you are sorry.

Webster Apologizes For "Black People" Comment (WGAN ,November 16, 2012)

RDE :’Is he a pariah for sending out the postcards to check on voter registrations??? “

I made this perfectly clear in the comment that you are responding too: He should investigate first and make public statements claiming fraud last. So you are posting nothing but empty rhetoric with this.

39 posted on 11/16/2012 8:10:07 AM PST by sickoflibs (How long before cry-Bohner caves to O again? They took the House for what?)
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To: Uncle Chip
RE :”I am sure he got a few angry phone calls
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And most of them were from Dems.

So now you are claiming that an ex-R party chairman will make a public apology because a few angry Dems called him.

Webster Apologizes For "Black People" Comment (WGAN ,November 16, 2012)

You dont sound the least bit serious with some of your replies, same with your rhetorical questions that you know I was clear on in the comments you respond to.

40 posted on 11/16/2012 8:16:27 AM PST by sickoflibs (How long before cry-Bohner caves to O again? They took the House for what?)
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To: sickoflibs

A lot of people onto this and they are not just party chairmen:

Illegal Aliens Caught Voting and Stealing Elections In Florida In Vast Numbers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ILJDudUpct0;


41 posted on 11/16/2012 8:19:10 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: sickoflibs
So now you are claiming that an ex-R party chairman will make a public apology because a few angry Dems called him.

How would he know if they are Dems or Repubs??? Are they registered as such on his phone??? Unless he knows them personally, he wouldn't.

42 posted on 11/16/2012 8:23:38 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

Now you are claiming some funny business in FL is proof that there was fraud in Maine with those Etheopans? Are they the same illegals both places and flew North on election day to vote both places?

I guess you believe the guy convicted who tells Judge Judy “I wasnt found guilty of anything , I copped a plea because my lawer told me too”


43 posted on 11/16/2012 8:24:52 AM PST by sickoflibs (How long before cry-Bohner caves to O again? They took the House for what?)
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To: Uncle Chip
RE :”So now you are claiming that an ex-R party chairman will make a public apology because a few angry Dems called him.
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How would he know if they are Dems or Repubs??? Are they registered as such on his phone??? Unless he knows them personally, he wouldn't. “

It was you who claimed they were Dems, Now you say there is no way to know if they were Dems.

sounds like the same circular logic you use on voter fraud.

“There was certainly fraud”

“How can we show there was fraud?”

44 posted on 11/16/2012 8:30:45 AM PST by sickoflibs (How long before cry-Bohner caves to O again? They took the House for what?)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

failure to fight the good battle at the ballot box...highly increases the probability of needing to resort to the cartridge box.


45 posted on 11/16/2012 8:34:52 AM PST by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: sickoflibs
Now you are claiming some funny business in FL is proof that there was fraud in Maine with those Etheopans? Are they the same illegals both places and flew North on election day to vote both places?

Now YOU are making false accusations against me with your hyperbolizing and you can't even keep your facts straight. They were Somalis not "Etheopans"(sp).

I guess you believe the guy convicted who tells Judge Judy “I wasnt found guilty of anything , I copped a plea because my lawer told me too”

And that means what???

Identifying possible vote fraud is not a crime. Committing it is. You have your priorities backwards.

46 posted on 11/16/2012 8:34:52 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip
RE :”I guess you believe the guy convicted who tells Judge Judy “I wasnt found guilty of anything , I copped a plea because my lawer told me too”
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And that means what???”

Your hero up in Maine apologized for saying what you are still defending but you claim he was or is(???) right because some angry Dems called him up and yelled at him and forced him to, even though you also claim he had no idea if they were Dems, but you do,.

So his apologizing is the copping of the plea, forced of course “My lawyer told me to do it”

47 posted on 11/16/2012 8:44:06 AM PST by sickoflibs (How long before cry-Bohner caves to O again? They took the House for what?)
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To: sickoflibs
Your hero up in Maine apologized:

But he is still sending out postcards, isn't he:

"Webster said he has identified five "pockets" of the state where he has concerns about voting irregularities. He would not identify those areas, but said he plans to mail "Thank You" cards to all of the newly registered voters. If a large number of cards are returned because the addresses are invalid, Webster said, he will know he is on to something."

Is he apologizing for this???

48 posted on 11/16/2012 8:50:08 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Boogieman

It’s like Bush v. Gore all over again.


49 posted on 11/16/2012 8:57:50 AM PST by IslandLad
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To: Uncle Chip
RE :”Your hero up in Maine apologized”
....
But he is still sending out postcards, isn't he: “

He could look up the addresses in internet property record search for 'free' without saying anything to the media about it to tell if the addresses are real..then report the results back then narrow down his search to those that do exist under others names. The thanking them thing is just him trying to be funny.

But like you he is not the least bit serious. You act like you dont know what an apology is.

50 posted on 11/16/2012 9:04:47 AM PST by sickoflibs (How long before cry-Bohner caves to O again? They took the House for what?)
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