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Texas A&M student senate approves concealed handgun bill
theeagle.com ^ | 16 November, 2012 | ALLEN REED

Posted on 11/16/2012 7:44:09 PM PST by marktwain

Texas A&M student senators want handguns in classrooms, and with a little help from the Legislature, they might soon get their wish.

The student senate voted 38-19 Wednesday to ask A&M university officials and state lawmakers to permit concealed carry license holders to bring handguns inside university buildings, said Rusty Thompson, interim director of Student Activities.

Student Body President John Claybrook said he has not decided whether to sign or veto the senate's recommendation but wants to have a decision by Monday.

The student senate's "Texas A&M Personal Protection Bill," reads, in part: "Seeing a need for self-preservation against criminals, rapists and mentally unstable persons, we seek change in state law and Texas A&M University policy."

The students' concerns could make their way to Austin, where lawmakers have tried for years to pass the pro-gun measure through the Republican-controlled Legislature.

Texas Sen. Brian Birdwell, R-Granbury, plans to introduce legislation next session to decriminalize concealed weapons on campus, according to his chief of staff, Ben Stratmann. Similar legislation has failed in the past two sessions, but proponents are hopeful that 2013 is the year concealed carry is allowed on campus.

Texas is one of 21 states that ban concealed weapons on campus. It's a felony under state law. Five states have provisions that allow concealed carry on campus: Colorado, Mississippi, Oregon, Utah and Wisconsin, and legislation is pending in two states.

In Texas, concealed weapons are only banned in university buildings or arenas, and can be carried in open areas, walkways and parking lots. The Texas Penal Code allows individual universities to permit concealed weapons, but no public university in the state has done so.

Additionally, the A&M student conduct code prohibits possession of all firearms on university premises or at any university-sponsored activity.

The Aggies' hopes for expanded gun rights already has the support of many legislators and lobbyists in Austin. Alice Tripp, legislative director for the Texas State Rifle Association, said permitting concealed carry on campus is the group's No. 1 goal for the upcoming session.

"It could have been realized every session," Tripp said. "There was no logical reason for it to be lost in 2009 or 2011. It's not like anti-gun won over pro-gun. It was not anything you could put your finger on."

Tripp said concealed carry holders exercising their rights on campus will make universities safer.

"College campuses are predator magnets, and we're talking about an individual who has a license," Tripp said.

Larry Arnold, a board member of the Texas Concealed Handgun Association, agrees.

"When we look at all of these mass killings, every one of them seems to happen in a place we're not allowed to carry," Arnold said.

Concealed handguns are commonplace at restaurants, shops and public places, he said.

"Are you comfortable off campus?" Arnold asked. "That's the way it would be on campus."

But while gun advocates and A&M students propose relaxing state gun regulations, there's one group notably gun shy -- university professors.

Walter Daugherity, speaker-elect of the A&M faculty senate, said the group hasn't addressed the topic recently but previously rejected the idea of guns in classrooms.

"The primary [concern] is the safety of everyone on campus, which is the responsibility of the university police department and the administration," Daugherity said.

Daugherity noted the faculty were not unanimously opposed to the idea but that the "great majority" were.

A fear of many professors, he said, is that guns introduced to an environment with stressed and pressured young adults could turn volatile.

"If there is such a situation, then the presence of a weapon might make it worse," Daugherity said. "It could be anything; it could be bad grade on a test, a breakup with a girlfriend or family problems that could trigger an emotional outburst or breakdown."

A&M President R. Bowen Loftin said if the state law changed, the university would comply.

"The safety of our students, faculty and staff is always our top priority," Loftin wrote in an emailed statement. "We have highly trained campus police to help ensure our campus is safe, and I have complete confidence in their ability to do so."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: banglist; campus; ccw; texas; tx
Poll on left at top of article:

Do you think gun owners with concealed carry permits should not be allowed to have firearms on the grounds of Texas colleges and universities?

Yes 41.7 No 55 Not sure 3.3

This poll needs to be freeped.

1 posted on 11/16/2012 7:44:17 PM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

No, that poll does not need to be “FReeped.”

Concealed carry is a local decision, and neither A&M nor the state of Texas needs outsiders’ opinions to make choices that are right for us.

But thanks for your concern.


2 posted on 11/16/2012 7:52:16 PM PST by Jedidah
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To: Jedidah

As Texas is one of the few states that does not allow open carry, concealed carry becomes a constitutional issue.


3 posted on 11/16/2012 7:55:20 PM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Gig ‘Em!


4 posted on 11/16/2012 7:56:38 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: marktwain

Liberals screaming “blood on the campus” in 3, 2...


5 posted on 11/16/2012 7:56:52 PM PST by wastedyears (I don't want to live on this planet anymore.)
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To: Jedidah

Well I want my opinion to be heard, because if I ever need to escape from NYC/The North due to massive outside/UN influence and takeovers, then I need someplace to go, and Texas would be near the top of my list.


6 posted on 11/16/2012 8:00:05 PM PST by wastedyears (I don't want to live on this planet anymore.)
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To: wastedyears
I escaped.  So can you.

I escaped. So can you. I am very happily living in Texas now.
8 posted on 11/16/2012 8:42:51 PM PST by 3Fingas
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To: marktwain

“It could have been realized every session,” Tripp said. “There was no logical reason for it to be lost in 2009 or 2011. It’s not like anti-gun won over pro-gun. It was not anything you could put your finger on.”
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Sure you can. Members of the Texas ‘Lege’ were pressured by university administrators across the state, who themselves were being pressured by faculty.


9 posted on 11/16/2012 9:07:58 PM PST by Nita Nupress
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To: marktwain

I say it’s a great idea... and I have real skin in the game. My son is a fish in the Corps... in fact I am posting from a hotel room in College Station after having returned from midnight yell.


10 posted on 11/16/2012 11:41:51 PM PST by r-q-tek86 ("It doesn't matter how smart you are if you don't stop and think" - Dr. Sowell)
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To: marktwain

As a part of my son’s responsibilities, he provides an escort to any student who requests one. This is one of the things of which I am most proud. Were he allowed to carry a weapon during “guard duty”, he would be that much more of a deterrent to someone with bad intent.

That ivy covered professors are against this is all the more reason to be for it.


11 posted on 11/17/2012 12:04:15 AM PST by r-q-tek86 ("It doesn't matter how smart you are if you don't stop and think" - Dr. Sowell)
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To: marktwain
"We have highly trained campus police to help ensure our campus is safe, and I have complete confidence in their ability to do so."

Our daughter graduated from TAMU in 2008. She told us that the only time they would see the campus police was on Sunday morning when the students went to church crossing the main drag and directing traffic at the huge tent when the Aggie tee shirt sale was happening. Most of those kids grew up on farms and know how to handle weapons very well.

12 posted on 11/17/2012 6:05:36 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (0 bummer inherited a worse economy in 2012 than he did in 2008.)
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To: r-q-tek86

Now, just where would a Corps member conceal a handgun? They are, generally, very trim and their uniforms fit very snug. Anything larger than a palm gun like a .22 or a .25 would print..

“That ivy covered professors are against this is all the more reason to be for it.” Good point...

My $0.02


13 posted on 11/17/2012 6:07:02 AM PST by 7.62mm ("Quis costodiet, ipsos costodes?" Juvenal, Satires 6, Line 347)
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To: r-q-tek86

Now, just where would a Corps member conceal a handgun? They are, generally, very trim and their uniforms fit very snug. Anything larger than a palm gun like a .22 or a .25 would print..

“That ivy covered professors are against this is all the more reason to be for it.” Good point...

My $0.02


14 posted on 11/17/2012 6:07:09 AM PST by 7.62mm ("Quis costodiet, ipsos costodes?" Juvenal, Satires 6, Line 347)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks marktwain.


15 posted on 11/17/2012 8:41:00 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: 7.62mm

They wear ACU’s for guard duty. Plenty of room in those.


16 posted on 11/18/2012 1:27:47 PM PST by r-q-tek86 ("It doesn't matter how smart you are if you don't stop and think" - Dr. Sowell)
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