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County board grants Rep. Allen West’s recount request
Wa Po ^ | 11/16/12 | Alan Blake

Posted on 11/17/2012 5:12:04 AM PST by mgist

County board grants Rep. Allen West’s recount request The St. Lucie County Canvassing Board has ordered a recount of all early votes in that county, beginning Saturday morning. The ruling is a victory for West, but overcoming his current 1,900-vote deficit will still be difficult. A Florida judge on Friday denied Rep. Allen West’s (R-Fla.) request to recount early votes in St. Lucie County, dealing another setback to the congressman’s effort to overcome an apparent defeat in last Tuesday’s election. West had requested the recounting of 37,000 ballots from early voting, suggesting that they may have been miscounted. The judge said he did not have the authority to order the recount, according to the Palm Beach Post. The county’s canvassing board was set to meet at 4 p.m., at which time it will also rule on West’s request. The board previously recounted early votes from three of the eight days in which voters could cast early ballots, but opted not to recount all of them. About 799 previously counted votes didn’t show up in the recount — something West’s lawyers say is evidence of more widespread irregularities. The final tally in Florida’s 18th district shows West trailing Democrat Patrick Murphy by nearly 2,000 votes — a margin outside the half-percent threshold for an automatic recount.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Government; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: allenwest; election2012; florida; patrickmurphy

1 posted on 11/17/2012 5:12:06 AM PST by mgist
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To: mgist

Prayers for west


2 posted on 11/17/2012 5:26:49 AM PST by mgist
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To: mgist

“Grants” him permission?


3 posted on 11/17/2012 5:31:50 AM PST by albie
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To: mgist

The crooks must have a pretty good handle on the situation now, if they are confident enought to allow him a recount. Cynical, I know, but my guess is West will lose by 100 votes and graciously concede while hoping we can ‘work together’.


4 posted on 11/17/2012 5:32:25 AM PST by ArtDodger
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To: All

BREAKING: Allen West wins recount of ALL early votes by St. Lucie County Canvassing Board

http://www.therightscoop.com/breaking-allen-west-wins-recount-of-all-early-votes-by-st-lucie-county-canvassing-board/

THE BLAZE: The St. Lucie County Canvassing Board has ordered the retabulation of all early votes in the highly contested congressional race between Rep. Allen West (R-Fla.) and Democrat Patrick Murphy, according to Jeffrey Scott Shapiro, a volunteer lawyer for the West campaign. The board voted 2-1 in favor of recounting the votes.

“This retabulation of all early votes as the Supervisor of Elections originally planned is a victory for democracy,” Shapiro told TheBlaze. “This restores some level of trust and public confidence in the system… it was the right thing to do.”

Election officials will begin retabulating the roughly 20,000 additional early votes at 9 a.m. on Saturday, he said.

West needs to gain just 249 votes in those 20,000 ballots to trigger a statutory recount under state law, Shapiro told TheBlaze. West gained 535 votes in the initial recount of 16,275 ballots. Both candidates combined lost 800 votes, however, 80 percent of the decrease was owned by Murphy.


5 posted on 11/17/2012 5:46:26 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike ("God only knows it's not what we would choose to do." - Lyric from Us and Them - Pink Floyd)
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To: mgist

Prayers for Col West.
We need this man.


6 posted on 11/17/2012 5:46:54 AM PST by patriot08 (Native Texan)
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To: ArtDodger
The crooks must have a pretty good handle on the situation now, if they are confident enought to allow him a recount. Cynical, I know, but my guess is West will lose by 100 votes and graciously concede while hoping we can ‘work together’.

This is beyond preposterous! They find a box of uncounted ballots sitting in the office of the head election supervisor and they have to "grant" West's "request?"

The friggin' election should be null and void and a recount should take place of the whole thing! I do not understand an apathetic public who would allow the state to get away with these criminal proceedings.

It's time for a real change in this country before we absolutely lose it!

7 posted on 11/17/2012 6:07:19 AM PST by sirchtruth (Freedom is not free.)
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To: sirchtruth

According to Ayn Rand, we may have to lose it before we can take it back...


8 posted on 11/17/2012 6:26:14 AM PST by ArtDodger
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To: All

FB post is calling for all FL supporters to get out to St Lucie NOW! Please pass this on!


9 posted on 11/17/2012 6:33:21 AM PST by Eagle of Liberty (Be the Enemy Within the Enemy Within...)
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To: mgist
Votes are being counted at 9 this morning.

Murphy's lawyers are trying to find a judge who will stop the recount of early votes.

Yesterday the same lawyers argued that the judge could not order the recount.

In other news Murphy is in Washington strapping himself to a pillar at the Capitol.

10 posted on 11/17/2012 6:40:51 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: mgist

4 Updates:

https://www.facebook.com/AllenWestRepublic?ref=stream


11 posted on 11/17/2012 6:45:55 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: mgist

I believe if this retabulation of the early votes in St. Lucie gets the race within the .005% range then it will require a recount district wide which would invole the other two counties, Palm Beach and Martin.


12 posted on 11/17/2012 6:59:22 AM PST by deport
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To: mgist; All


Col Allen West; "I don't want to see America become like Zimbabwe where people don’t trust their electoral process. If we cannot trust the integrity of the voting system then we are no longer a free republic".

Col West has opened the door.

We must fight election fraud.

It falls on ‘We the People’.

Silence is consent


What most refuse to acknowledge is that it was unlikely that ANYBODY could have beaten the voter fraud planned and perpetrated by the Obama machine. They seem to prefer pointing fingers, blaming Romney and blathering on about Patraeus' sex life.

There’s overwhelming evidence of fraud.- Here


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MITT ROMNEY TWEETS ABOUT ELECTION FRAUD:

>MITT ROMNEY in 2012! ‏@PlanetRomney #tcot The Competent Conservative: Elections Have Not Yet Been Certified. Here’s What You Can Do: - Here

Excerpt from Mitt Romney's reference:

These elections are NOT certified yet. The only way to get this investigated, much less recounted or overturned, is through the Secretary of State of each of the five key states: Florida, Virginia, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. EVEN IF YOU ARE IN ANOTHER STATE you can help. But it won’t do any good to dilute our effort to challenge California or Michigan or other states. Until a major group gets involved to do more, here is the plan: Contact the Secretary of State of the state in question. See contact information below...

Read the rest- Here

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SARAH PALIN speaks out on Twitter about massive Obama machine voter fraud:

>Sarah Palin @SarahPalinUSA Between suppression of the military vote and voter fraud, Obama stole another election. http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/46302 …DEMAND A RECOUNT! #VoterFraud

>Sarah Palin;@SarahPalinUSA People need to stop pointing fingers within the GOP and investigate the Dems' massive voter fraud and suppression of the military vote.

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The website,'Barack Obama Vote Fraud 2012' is keeping a running account of cases of voter fraud and what to do about it:

(Astonishing list. Most prominent 'vote fraud site' on the net) > Visit the site- Here

Most of 'Obama Voter Fraud' activity is moving to FaceBook. 'Obama Voter Fraud Volunteers' Here
'Obama Voter Fraud' on FaceBook- Here

Sign their petition- over 99,000 and counting -cards, emails- Here

Another petition, The 'We The People' petition has 60,000 signatures and counting- Here

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'American Thinker'- "..Election stolen." Here-

'WND' List of voter fraud reports Here

'ATLAS SHRUGS' voter fraud list. 'Atlas Shrugs' has a list but cannot link. Contains video of eyewitness pollwatcher who verifies busload of Somalians bussed in, 95% spoke no english. Told to vote Obama. Google 'Atlas Shrugs voter fraud list'

< Hannity and Col Allan West slam voter fraud Nov 12- Here

Photo of SOMALIANS brought to Ohio voting stations by the busload, 95% of whom did not speak English, and told to vote for Obama, straight Dem ticket- Here

'Human Events', report pollwatcher eyewitness to busload of Somalians at Ohio poll, spoke no English, told to vote Obama Here

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Must watch videos!

VIDEO-- Programmer Testifies About Rigging Elections With Vote Counting- Here

VIDEO- Illegal Aliens Caught Voting and Stealing Elections In Florida In Vast Numbers- Here

VIDEO- MICHAEL SAVAGE: How Obama fixed the 2012 election- Here

VIDEO- Massive voter fraud discovered in April- Here

VIDEO- Whistle blower speaks out about voter fraud- Here

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We can not wait for 2014 and 2016 to regroup and figure out new strategies. By then it will be too late. The Marxist/Muslim usurper will have completed his planned distruction of America. That's what people fail to understand.

We must act NOW.

Start with the election. If we let the Rats get away with this massive voter fraud, we're no better than a bananna republic.

We must keep digging and pounding him every day, in every way we can- phony birth certificate, Benghazi, Fast and Furious, his hidden life, records....

We are FReepers. We must fight!

Those who shrug and accept this atrocity without a fight are not worthy to be called Freepers!




13 posted on 11/17/2012 7:02:15 AM PST by patriot08 (Native Texan)
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To: mgist; All

Voter Fraud Links

The American Dream; 22 Signs That Voter Fraud Is Wildly Out Of Control And The Election Was A Sham
http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/22-signs-that-voter-fraud-is-wildly-out-of-control-and-the-election-was-a-sham

Town Hall : Obama Lilely Won The Election Through Voter Fraud
http://townhall.com/columnists/rachelalexander/2012/11/11/obama_likely_won_reelection_through_election_fraud

American Thinker: Was The Election Stolen?
http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/11/was_the_2012_election_stolen.html

WSVN-TV Almost 1K Ballots Found In Broward Elections Warehouse:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2959584/posts

Pundit Press; In Florida Obama Got Over 99% In Broward County Precincts:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2957786/posts

Natural News.com: 19,605 to Zero IS Statistical Proof Of Outright Vote Fraud in 2012 Presidential Election:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2959877/posts

Realville, USA: The Great Election Robbery of 2012?
http://www.realville-usa.com/2012/11/the-great-election-robbery-of-2012.html#!/2012/11/the-great-election-robbery-of-2012.html

WND: Here’s How Touchscreens Killed Romney Votes
http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/heres-how-touchscreens-killed-romney-votes/?cat_orig=politics

The American Dream: Election Fraud? Obama Won More Than 99% Of The Vote in More Than 100 Ohio Precincrs
http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/election-fraud-obama-won-more-than-99-percent-of-the-vote-in-more-than-100-ohio-precincts

WND: The Big List Of Voter Fraud Reports:
http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/the-big-list-of-vote-fraud-reports/


14 posted on 11/17/2012 7:07:02 AM PST by patriot08 (Native Texan)
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To: mgist; All

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What you can do:

These elections are NOT certified yet. The only way to get this investigated, much less recounted or overturned, is through the Secretary of State of each of the five key states: Florida, Virginia, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. EVEN IF YOU ARE IN ANOTHER STATE you can help. But it won’t do any good to dilute our effort to challenge California or Michigan or other states. Until a major group gets involved to do more, here is the plan:

Contact the Secretary of State of the state in question. (See contact information below. Please provide others in COMMENTS.)

Send them the press clippings, or personal testimonials of clear vote fraud witnessed. (Statistical aberrations are helpful too like a historical 50% turnout in 2004, 2008 but a 90% turnout in a specific precinct despite an overall LOWER state turnout.)

Demand a public recount AND investigation, with a commitment to fight to replace THEM in the next election if they do not do so.

Email/Phone/Visit EVERY WEEK if not EVERY DAY. This will take weeks of steady pressure to get them to move.
Get your friends and neighbors to do the same.
Contact the OTHER 4 states to do the same as above.
Contact the Governor and the local GOP office with the SAME pressure.
(List of web contacts for each below)

If you are in those states (or know people who are) start attempting to find OTHERS with evidence of fraud. See if you can identify the precinct judges where the statistical aberations occur to pass along to the True the Vote which is set up to sue these entities with Judicial Watch.

Try to visit (or call) your local representative asking for their help to put pressure on. It doesn’t hurt that if they don’t or won’t you make it your goal to find and fund a challenger to them for allow open and honest elections – the fabric of freedom in this country – to not only go unchallenged, but to institutionalized.

Contact your city, state and national media to keep this story alive as well. (Fox News has an email just for this at voterfraud@foxnews.com)

Help us find, fund or coordinate willing lawyers, statisticians, pollsters and activists.

I can not reiterate enough that if this is NOT CHALLENGED NOW, we will could loose the House of Representatives in 2014 and possibly every election forward to massive voter fraud. Imagine Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi reenacting the first two years of Obama’s reign with more Stimulus, Cash for Cars, Solyndra’s and ObamaCare’s.

This fight can not be put off for another election cycle or another day. Or there will no longer be a constitutional America. Put down your foot and make the declaration, “THIS VOTE FRAUD WILL NOT STAND!”

Via SafariWoman at TeamNetworks.net
Here’s contact info for all states:
OHIO:
(614) 466-2655
(877) SOS-Ohio (767-6446)
TTY: (614) 466-0562
TTY Toll-free: (877) 644-6889
E-mail the Agency
180 East Broad Street, 16th Floor
Columbus, Ohio 43215
WISCONSIN:
30 W. Mifflin, 10th Floor
Madison, WI
(608) 266-8888
PENNSYLVANIA:
302 N Office Building
Harrisburg, PA 17120
(717) 787-6458
VIRGINIA:
Office of the Secretary of the Commonwealth
1111 East Broad Street, 4th Floor
Richmond, Virginia 23219
(804) 786-2441
Fax: (804) 371-0017
FLORIDA:
Director’s Office (for Elections)
Main Line: (850) 245-6200
Fax Numbers: (850) 245-6217 or (850) 245-6218
Email: DivElections@dos.state.fl.us
Mailing Address:
Department of State
Division of Elections
Director’s Office
Room 316, R. A. Gray Building
500 South Bronough Street
Tallahassee, FL 32399-0250
From Christa Schauf:
THIS PHONE LIST IS COMPLETE FOR ALL 50 STATES http://teapartyorg.ning.com/page/house-of-representatives

House of Representatives
U.S Capitol Switchboard – 202-224-3121
STATE GOVERNORS
(1) Rick Scott, Governor of Florida
http://www.flgov.com/contact-gov-scott/email-the-governor/

(2) John R. Kasich, Governor of Ohio
http://governor.ohio.gov/Contact/ContacttheGovernor.aspx

(3) Bob McDonnell, Governor of Virginia
http://www.governor.virginia.gov/AboutTheGovernor/contactGovernor.cfm

(4) Scott Walker, Governor of Wisconsin
govgeneral@wisconsin.gov
(5)Tom Corbett, Governor of Pennsylvania
http://sites.state.pa.us/PA_Exec/Governor/govmail.html

(6) Rick Snyder, Governor of Michigan
(1) Mitt Romney
http://www.mittromney.com/forms/suggestions

(2) Republican National Committee
http://www.gop.com/contact-us/Fox

News
(3) National Republican Senatorial Committee
http://www.nrsc.org/contact-us/

(4) National Republican Congressional Committee
E-mail: website@nrcc.org
(5) FOX News
foxnewstips@foxnews.com
(6) FOX News
Friends@foxnews.com
(7) Rush Limbaugh
ElRushbo@eibnet.com
(8) Mark Levin
http://www.marklevinshow.com/contactus.asp

(9) Shawn Hanity
http://www.hannity.com/contact

(10) Laura Ingraham
http://www.lauraingraham.com/help

(11) Michelle Malkin
Email: writemalkin@gmail.com
(12) Newt Gingrich
http://www.newt.org/contact/

Petitions for Recount!
Petition to Congress
Petition to White House
Petition to GOP
Petition to FEC
Petition to Count Denied Military Votes

.


15 posted on 11/17/2012 7:08:17 AM PST by patriot08 (Native Texan)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

West gained 535 votes in the initial recount of 16,275 ballots. Both candidates combined lost 800 votes, however, 80 percent of the decrease was owned by Murphy.
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This is evidence of what I consider to be the simplest , most widespread and effective cheating method .. simply put a batch of ballots that you noticed are going “your” way back in the hopper and count them again..


16 posted on 11/17/2012 7:09:39 AM PST by Neidermeyer
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To: mgist

Just read that gertrude walker checked herself in to the hospital for “tests”.
Me thinks she being a life long black liberal dem was gotten to by the National dem party as the only way to get rid of the Colonel.
If this report is true I look for the national dem party to off old gertie with one of those tried and true untraceable heart attack deals.


17 posted on 11/17/2012 7:18:18 AM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO))
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To: Uncle Chip
Why can't WEST take this to a higher court.....? I don't understand that.

During the Bush/Gore debacle it was in one court after another.......

18 posted on 11/17/2012 7:28:55 AM PST by annieokie
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To: annieokie

He can do that after the votes are certified at noon tomorrow.

In the meantime he got almost what he wanted when the Canvassing Board last night voted 2-1 to recount 20,000 of the 37,000 early votes that had not been counted.

If the result of that recount puts the candidates within .05% of each other then there will be an automatic recount by state law of all votes that will include Martin and Palm Beach Counties as well, including the 304 ballots that Gerty had tucked away in her office closet.


19 posted on 11/17/2012 7:43:02 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip
Thanks that helps.

Now how are those ballots being "protected"? Who's watching them?

20 posted on 11/17/2012 7:57:05 AM PST by annieokie
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To: Uncle Chip

I wonder if they will count those 304 votes in Gertrude’s office separately? What is they are 100% for Allen?


21 posted on 11/17/2012 8:09:15 AM PST by stickywillie (stanley ann went black, & never came back)
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To: stickywillie

The whole national election was a sham. How can we get fauth restored in our election process?


22 posted on 11/17/2012 8:13:44 AM PST by FreeAtlanta (bahits.com)
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To: stickywillie

I read that they were the first to be counted. They apparently had write-in votes on them and it was too much work for Gerty and her staff to count them manually.


23 posted on 11/17/2012 8:17:03 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: bitt; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; ...

Thanks mgist.
West had requested the recounting of 37,000 ballots from early voting, suggesting that they may have been miscounted. The judge said he did not have the authority to order the recount... The county's canvassing board... previously recounted early votes from three of the eight days in which voters could cast early ballots... About 799 previously counted votes didn't show up in the recount...

24 posted on 11/17/2012 8:17:50 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: FreeAtlanta

“The whole national election was a sham. How can we get fauth restored in our election process”?....one day to vote, and dip your finger in that purple ink after you vote. that would be a start.


25 posted on 11/17/2012 8:23:54 AM PST by stickywillie (stanley ann went black, & never came back)
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To: stickywillie

The purple ink would be a great idea except in the inner cities and Dem districts they would all come down with acute cold finger syndrome and claim that they have to vote with their gloves on. Cheaters will always find a way.


26 posted on 11/17/2012 8:31:07 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: patriot08
The Somalians above probably were legal citizens. You can become a citizen in your own language after the age of 55 and none of the people in that line look young.
The issue may be more about how they were TOLD to vote and assisted to come to the polls and vote the way they were TOLD TO.

As much as I am not into the voter fraud issue, I must say this election has me saying something was up. Wasn't the issue of Obama winning, but was the issue of all these places with near 100% votes for Obama or places voting at 159% capacity.
Doesn't the last two issues trigger an investigation by those in charge of the voting?

27 posted on 11/17/2012 10:11:37 AM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy

I agree. 100% to 185% is much more than a red flag. It’s like sirens and huge bombs are going off, but these over 100% voting patterns have been ignored on a wholesale basis all across the nation. Something really stinks in America, if this can go on. Granted, unless you go to places other than the mainstream media, you wouldn’t know this. If Allen pulls this off, and it moves to the fraud & corruption in the swing states, huge questions need to be asked about where was the media, buy the people who force the issue


28 posted on 11/17/2012 10:19:18 AM PST by stickywillie (stanley ann went black, & never came back)
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To: A CA Guy

I agree. 100% to 185% is much more than a red flag. It’s like sirens and huge bombs are going off, but these over 100% voting patterns have been ignored on a wholesale basis all across the nation. Something really stinks in America, if this can go on. Granted, unless you go to places other than the mainstream media, you wouldn’t know this. If Allen pulls this off, and it moves to the fraud & corruption in the swing states, huge questions need to be asked about where was the media, buy the people who force the issue


29 posted on 11/17/2012 10:19:24 AM PST by stickywillie (stanley ann went black, & never came back)
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To: FreeAtlanta
The whole national election was a sham.

And the GOPe don't seem to doing anything about it. This may be why...

Why the GOP won't challenge voter fraud.

Includes interview snip from True the Vote spokesperson.

30 posted on 11/17/2012 1:32:52 PM PST by Jane Long ("Miss me yet?" - Mitt)
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To: Hotlanta Mike; manc

THanks for posting this info.

Why aren’t more Rs fighters like West??? More should follow his example.


31 posted on 11/17/2012 3:54:23 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: patriot08

Someone pinged me (yesterday? The day before?) to a link - it was a thread, but really just a sentence or two on FR. Now I can’t find it. Was it this?

http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2012/11/15/why-the-gop-will-not-do-anything-about-vote-fraud/

This should be posted on FR if it isn’t. I wish I could find the thread I was pinged, you probagly were too. If the article before is factual, and it looks to be so, then we’re ****ing doomed without major shake up.


32 posted on 11/17/2012 4:04:00 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah

this has been around a few days. no one seems sure what it means, but I’d like to go after the fraud enthusiastically, and let the chips fall where they may concerning this lawsuit later. what’s a jury/judge going say when it’s clear that we just kept ourselves out of being cheated out of our Freedom by flagrant violation of voting laws?


33 posted on 11/17/2012 4:21:05 PM PST by stickywillie (stanley ann went black, & never came back)
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To: little jeremiah

Allen can be the leader the GOP-e needs for such undertakings as rescuing Freedom in America. The GOP-e needs to take Allen’s show on the road during the Holidays. Or, do they even want to win?


34 posted on 11/17/2012 4:24:49 PM PST by stickywillie (stanley ann went black, & never came back)
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To: stickywillie

At this point, whether the above article is factual or not (and it looks to be), we’re doomed with a serious, major shakeup. Character - moral courage - is paramount.


35 posted on 11/17/2012 5:08:03 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah

I pinged you about that post.
And I don’t buy it. It has Rat stench all over it.
How are West and a few others hiring lawyers and contesting the vote then?

That’s preposterous. Can’t be.
Don’t buy it for a minute.


36 posted on 11/17/2012 5:34:48 PM PST by patriot08 (Native Texan)
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To: little jeremiah

Re; article you mentioned and other snide remarks..do you ever get the feeling we have a healthy population of Rats on FR?


37 posted on 11/17/2012 5:38:13 PM PST by patriot08 (Native Texan)
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To: patriot08

I remembered you had pinged me - I think I got one from someone else too - but I jsut couldn’t find it on my page, the pings are like a tsunami right now. If you know where it is could you post the link? (If you have time and can find it) cause I’d like to see the comments.

I just have no idea since I don’t know the facts. If it isn’t true, then the Repubs have not even a shred of an excuse to not go after ALL the voter fraud. West is a hero and we need more like him.


38 posted on 11/17/2012 6:45:02 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah

Sorry, can’t find it now.
Don’t worry about it. It’s preposterous.
Even if true, there are other ways.
We the people can scream our heads off for one thing.


39 posted on 11/17/2012 11:04:07 PM PST by patriot08 (Native Texan)
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To: patriot08

I just found it a while ago. It’s still alive and kicking. I just have no idea one way or another.

But whatever way it is, it needs to change.


40 posted on 11/17/2012 11:12:10 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: mgist

Gee, that’s awfully white of them.


41 posted on 11/17/2012 11:13:29 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (Win or lose, Impeach Obama Ben Ghazi...)
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