Skip to comments.Secession? Let THEM Secede.
Posted on 11/17/2012 3:30:30 PM PST by RightOnline
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Practically speaking THEY already did.
...Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, ...
When elected officials and bureaucracies act outside the law they are simply lawbreakers. When the majority of the people vote in favor of the lawlessness that has greatly manifested itself in the highest offices they have withdrawn their consent to be governed by a constitutional government. By what legitimate basis does the United States of America, as a Constitutional republic, still exist?
We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
'The People' no longer support that. They voted in support of lawlessness from the highest office on down. They voted against the rule of law. By referendum we now have a banana republic. The USAINO.
Those red counties, doesnt mean that they are all red, just 51 percent or more. Those blue counties, doesnt mean that they are all blue, but usually more than 51%....right up to 100%.
This is not a clear picture.
They won’t secede. We are the host bodies. They are the bloodsucking ticks. They feed on our lifeblood. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. One way or another.
good point. we are better armed, after all.
Arizona, South Carolina, Alabama and Mississippi look scary with all the blue within their borders. I guess Arizona especially.
My vote is to make it so that you are either a land owner or own a business,(as is those that pay to bills) to be eligible to vote.
There used to be a saying, “He who pays control me”. But unfortunately, it has become, “He who receives controls me.”
“Our country is now run by Democrat-run, large cities...on the coasts and in the upper-Midwest.”
The map clearly shows this. It is striking that it is cities with Ghetto voters than lean Dem and entitlement state. I no longer believe in universal suffrage. I don’t care about one’s race or skin color...but strongly question if persons living in ghettos (that don’t pay income tax) should even be allowed to vote. I wonder if all those that paid no income tax in the past few years (not talking about the retired worker...but folks that do not work nor desire to) had not been allowed to vote....how would it have affected the election???
I am also questioning IF voters under 18 (not serving in the military) should be voting? It was a mistake in 1971 to lower the national voting age to 18.
“These corrupt, Democrat-controlled sewers are dictating to the rest of us via sheer, concentrated numbers in highly compressed areas.”
They are properly called Ghettos!
Agreed that the map you posted isn’t indicative of what it really looks like in this country. See below:
Wait, every state has the right to petition the federal government, every citizen has the right to petition the federal government..if they no long wish to be part of the United States, let them step away and be an independent country.
After all we are just fifty countries/states bound together for common defense. (Well, in the old days anyway)
I am trying to figure out why so called conservatives are more upset about this issue than liberals are.
The blue sections in AZ shouldn’t disturb you too much. For the most part those are Indian reservations. Vast tracts of land with very few people living there. The dark blue section in the north includes Flagstaff and the one in the south includes Phoenix and Tucson so they have the city-lib vote adding to the Indian vote.
Maybe because the conservatives are paying a disproportionate share of expenses?
Just one problem with this theory.
On average, blue states pay more to the federal government than they receive in services, while of course on average red states take in more than they pay out.
This is primarily because blue states on average are wealthier than red states.
I have no idea how such an analysis would play out on the county level.
Those areas are the smelly sewer of the Country. Full of communists and pot heads. They have no loyalty to America but to their greed and willingness to steal from the rest of America.
That wont change, whether the state is independent of the USA or not.
Besides liberals will not stay in a state that secede....they will be feared they wont get their free phone.
I seriously believe it would be in the interest of both parties to go their separate ways; I think they would be better off without the encumbrance of what liberals call the "enemy". They truly hate conservatives more than radical muslims, communists, and dictators.
Conservatives cannot fathom how liberals expect the nation to function, nay survive, if they continue to take more and more and more from the producers and just hand it over to the lazy (after passing through government hands, of course!).
Conservatives cannot understand why liberals do not want to defend this country instead of tearing it down at every opportunity. So I say give the liberals a nation of their own and let them tear it down. You know it won't last long.
Give them the UN, let them take away all gun rights, put everyone not a certified millionaire on welfare, tax the bejeezus out of the remaining millionaires (and watch said millionaires flee the liberal nation), and see how long it all lasts.
Conservatives can then get their own nation with undeniable gun and property ownership rights, a compliant small government, a judiciary under the thumb of the people (instead of the way it is now), an uncorrupt electoral process, and very free people with low crime rate.
Doomed to fail, because you neglected to deal with that 19th Amendment thing.
Include that and I'm with you 100%.
I am curious how you plan to get a universal suffrage electorate to vote to disenfranchise a large percentage of itself.