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The core issues that face our nation are clearly present in the fundamentally beliefs of our people. The ones that have voted for socialism, and most don't know it or where we are headed as a result. We can point to education, yes, or how liberalism has taken over virtually every aspect of every institution, including big business, and say, "we need to stop or change this".

But how ?

We need to understand that NO ONE can be TOLD, what to think or believe. They must come to their own conclusions about matters that test their world view. As a result, it's not the message that is the problem for the conservative, but the messenger and how truth is discovered.

I will lay out just one tactic that, while it is a long term plan, it can only be done with a high degree of planning and purpose.

The overriding goal is to have people find the truth for themselves. We can only sow the seeds.

It is my belief that the only way to get people to even begin to think for themselves is to undermine or subvert the current state of or foundation for belief. I know we can do this by appealing to the a few inherent facts of human nature.

While I am certain there are some folks here that will think I'm nuts, I have broken this issue down and have concluded that in order effect the kind of shift necessary, we need to undermine the current system.

There is only one way this will work and there are a few requirements that must be adhered to.

1. No overt statements.

2. Must remain a mystery to be solved.

3. Play on the insecurities of the audience.

4. Must be highly cryptic with multiple possibilities.

5. No single message or statement can be sourced directly.

The initial idea is to place messages that meet the above criteria in heavily trafficked areas that will get a "buzz" about both the message and the messenger. I have many ideas on what should be presented.

OK, I am crazy. But here goes.

Look at this practice.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture_jamming

Culture jamming (name coined in 1984[1][2][3]) is a tactic used by many anti-consumerist social movements[4] to disrupt or subvert media culture and its mainstream cultural institutions, including corporate advertising. It purports to "expose the methods of domination" of mass society to foster progressive change.[5]

Culture jamming is often seen[by whom?] as a form of subvertising. Many culture jams are intended to expose apparently questionable political assumptions behind commercial culture. Common tactics include re-figuring logos, fashion statements, and product images as a means to challenge the idea of "what's cool" along with assumptions about the personal freedoms of consumption.[6]

Culture jamming sometimes entails transforming mass media to produce ironic or satirical commentary about mass media, using the original medium's communication method. Culture jamming is usually employed in opposition to a perceived appropriation of public space, or as a reaction against social conformity.

And look at the history of just one person that did this by himself.( and yes he was nuts)

He did happen to create a huge buzz of people that were all trying to figure out what he was saying.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toynbee_tiles

So the idea is to distribute highly cryptic messages that can create an underground buzz of interest to solve the mystery. (I'm talking about distributing thousands of these)

Let's face it, no party or politician is ever going to change the way people see the world. Only by stating the process of critical thought do we have a chance.

Flame away

1 posted on 11/17/2012 6:37:37 PM PST by Zeneta
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To: Zeneta

>> But how ?

We need to modify the way information is dispensed to the citizens.


2 posted on 11/17/2012 6:43:58 PM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: Zeneta

Thursday, I had a three hour hash out with our local city governments and two higher ups in state water agencies. I discussed why collaborative regional “governance” over resource planning (Integrated Regional Water Planning): (1) Completely violated the Planning authority delegated by the legislature to local government; (2) Removed the checks currently on elected officials which restricts them to the regulatory relm of “public health and safety” (police powers of regulation) - replacing them with unelected, unlimited “stakeholders”; (3) Removed accountability of decisionmakers at the voting booth and possibility of recall; (4) elevated the clout of special interests over property owners and structured them in parity with elected representatives in decisionmaking and governance; and (5) violated the due process rights of property owners.

They all got an earfull and at least one of the agency people said it made sense. We will see if it changes anything.


6 posted on 11/17/2012 7:10:53 PM PST by marsh2
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To: Zeneta

Have you taken your pills?


7 posted on 11/17/2012 7:15:03 PM PST by Marcella ("When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.)
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To: Zeneta

How about just telling them the truth?


8 posted on 11/17/2012 7:18:31 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Nice 'til I'm not.)
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To: Zeneta

Ok, for the 101th time, you are not addressing the core issue - the heart of the problem. You are dealing with a symptom - not the cause or origin.

Your plan is therefore worthless.

The Communists had a patient plan for the internal downfall of our nation, and have patiently implemented it for the last 60 years. No, I’m not a conspiracy nut. My mother was a typist for the FBI in WWII and told me all this when I was young. She had typed up these plans in the war. This led her and my father (who both passed in the last year and a half at 93 and 96) to be Tea Party’ers long before there was such a thing.

Primary in their plan was to gain control and dominance of all the teaching in colleges and universities. From there, they brainwash all the future educators - and journalists. The journalists then keep the world from knowing the truth, and forever enhance the brainwashing.

The newly brainwashed educators now brainwash children from kindergarden through grad school in Marxist/atheist amoral or immoral thinking.

For two generations now our educational system has been both brainwashing and dumbing down our population. And the last election was their coup.

The floodwaters of non-thinking, almost illiterate, Marxist thinking graduates of our high schools and colleges is now broken loose, as even a majority of these have liberal thinking parents.

All the conservatives efforts to “catch up” or plug the hole in the dam are in vain. As Rush said on Nov. 7th, “We are outnumbered...and losing ground.”

Until I hear a realistic plan for taking back first our educational system (not long after I emailed Rush a personal letter along the same grounds, he said “We must take back the educational system...”....have no idea if I had anything to do with that). BUT, Rush - nor anyone else - has presented a plan for doing so.

How many million new HS and college grads do we have each year? Someone do the research and tell me. The vast majority - probably over 75% - are ultra-liberals.

Until the origins of this flood is turned around - we are doomed. And it will take at least two generations to make a difference.

There is civil war in the Republican party between RINO’s and true conservatives that will, from this day forward, so divided it that it will prevent the party from ever taking a national election again - unless...

There is total national collapse where we are all back to ground zero and have to start all over again.


11 posted on 11/17/2012 7:28:33 PM PST by Arlis (.)
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To: Zeneta

Oh, I should have started with noting that your first sentence is spot on.


12 posted on 11/17/2012 7:29:41 PM PST by Arlis (.)
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I think your approach may be a useful prong in a multi-prong approach. I think we could put some computer power to use cataloging and sorting all the overt messages in order to determine the optimal covert message. There will have to be multiple messages at any one time and place and the reactions of the targets will have to be monitored so the messages can be adjusted.

On the flip side a conservative with real leadership skills would probably be a lot more effective.

24 posted on 11/18/2012 6:15:56 AM PST by palmer (Jim, please bill me 50 cents for this completely useless post)
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We should just concede the FedGov™ to the socialists. It is lost. Having said that, we need to create 50 states with Republican governors a legislatures that will wield the power of the 10th amendment up to and including the option of secession. There was a time when the state was superior to the Federal, it can happen again. It is the way the Constitution originally codified our republic.


25 posted on 11/18/2012 6:22:33 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Zeneta
I like your idea. I am very familiar with culture jamming and find it a funny and often very effective way of getting a message across.

Unfortunately I don't think it will work with conservatives. Most of the culture jamming I have seen that has been effective involves some level of illegality. Either messages are put in places without the consent of the owner or sophisticated methods are used to gain access to meetings, etc. under false pretenses so that a fake spokesperson can give a message that was not expected by the formal attendees.

Freepers are all about following the spirit and LETTER of the law. It would be hard to get them to back a movement that would require placing messages, like graffiti, on buildings or in places where permission was not granted. It would be near impossible to get Freepers to engage in trespass, etc.

Certainly you can do what some have done and purchase billboard time, etc. but that could get real costly and the mainline outdoor advertising companies may not allow you to even purchase time on signs where your message would be most effective.

32 posted on 11/20/2012 11:07:40 PM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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If you want to be on or off the Agenda 21 ping list, please notify me by Freepmail. It is a relatively low volume list in which we have been exploring the UN Agenda21 and related topics. We have collected our studies with threads, links, and discussions on the Agenda 21 thread which can be found here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2738418/posts

NEW ACTION THREAD:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2863065/posts

Post 128 of the Action Thread is a summary of the history of Agenda 21, “what they are doing”, “what to do about it” and a good bibliography for further reading.


35 posted on 11/26/2012 4:18:55 PM PST by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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