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PA State Universities Face First-Ever Faculty Strike
Breitbart ^

Posted on 11/17/2012 9:33:30 PM PST by chessplayer

Faculty at fourteen Pennsylvania state universities voted Friday to authorize a strike if contract negotiations fail to reach an agreement in coming weeks.

No one is on strike yet, but professors and coaches voted overwhelmingly that the union should be allowed to call one if progress is not made. Of the 6,000 ballots cast, 95 percent voted to authorize a walkout.

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So will the students get a partial refund of their tuition? I doubt it.
1 posted on 11/17/2012 9:33:37 PM PST by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

Shut it down. For a couple of years. Like the stupid NHL.


2 posted on 11/17/2012 9:35:30 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: chessplayer

wait, professors are in a union?


3 posted on 11/17/2012 9:35:47 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: chessplayer

Shut it down


4 posted on 11/17/2012 9:40:46 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Paladin2

I predict the NHL is about to become the KHL North American Division.


5 posted on 11/17/2012 9:41:42 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: chessplayer
Tenure AND unionized? Sheesh, that's why my tuition doubled in 4.5 years back during the Carter admin.
6 posted on 11/17/2012 9:42:02 PM PST by uncommonsense (Conservatives believe what they see; Liberals see what they believe.)
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To: chessplayer

The students eyes will see all the education they will ever need. Let them strike, walk out.


7 posted on 11/17/2012 9:46:05 PM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: yldstrk

Aaup


8 posted on 11/17/2012 9:56:37 PM PST by whitedog57
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To: chessplayer

Wonder where all the taxpayer student loan money is ending up? (including administrators, new facilities, etc.,)


9 posted on 11/17/2012 9:59:18 PM PST by Varsity Flight (Extortion-Care is the Government Work-Camp: Arbeitsziehungslager)
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To: Paladin2

Let them strike and shut down the university. It will save the students from leftist propaganda and indoctrination, as well as the fact that they won’t learn anything useful in terms of getting a job.

Oh, by the way, there aren’t any jobs out there for them anyway. Might as well save papa’s hard-earned money, come back and live at home (saving $10-25,000 a year), and start looking for a job.

By 2014, they will all be conservatives, if not Republicans (if the GOP is still around).

Lots of key Democrat Senate seats up in 2014. Obama’s biggest nightmare is losing the Senate, besides his school transcripts being found.


10 posted on 11/17/2012 10:51:30 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: chessplayer

Just go “Hostess” on their ass. Go into Bankruptcy and invalidate ALL pensions.


11 posted on 11/17/2012 10:53:44 PM PST by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: Varsity Flight

That’s the “little secret” the children don’t understand.


12 posted on 11/17/2012 10:55:17 PM PST by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: chessplayer

It’s fo’ de chirens.....


13 posted on 11/17/2012 11:03:35 PM PST by Iron Munro (Robbing From The Hood and Boy Blunder - Our New Queen and King)
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To: chessplayer

About a decade ago, a full time university professor in one of the PA state universities had to teach a minimum of three courses in spring and fall semester and be available for five hours per week of office hours. For that level of effort, they were paid something in the low 40k range.

In other words, for thirty two weeks each year (two sixteen week semesters), a prof had to teach three courses (three hours a week for each course, adding up to nine hours in the classroom) and five additional hours of sitting in their office to draw a full time salary. Fourteen hours a week, eight months a year. Approximately 450 hours a year for 40k, or about 90 bucks an hour. Some professors did more, some enthusiastically volunteered numerous additional hours for mentoring and advising, but a non-trivial portion of the faculty did the bare minimum. Sure there is class prep and all that jazz, but in many courses, once a lesson plan and exam format is developed, there’s no need to put in additional effort, and the cottage industry of back tests and note banks prove that PhDs are able to be just as lazy as their students.

I learned all this the last time the PA state university professors threatened to strike. I’m sure the numbers didn’t shift out of the professors’ favor since then.


14 posted on 11/17/2012 11:09:32 PM PST by jz638
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To: chessplayer

Bloomsburg University
California University of Pennsylvania
Cheyney University
Clarion University
East Stroudsburg University
Edinboro University
Indiana University of Pennsylvania
Kutztown University
Lock Haven University
Mansfield University
Millersville University
Shippensburg University
Slippery Rock University
West Chester University


15 posted on 11/17/2012 11:11:30 PM PST by BlessedBeGod
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To: chessplayer

Full professors make over $100,000 for 9 mos. teaching with VERY generous bennies.


16 posted on 11/17/2012 11:30:33 PM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: chessplayer

The governor should offer online classes, developed at other uniersities if need be. Then let the walkout happen. If students can get an education online without the hassel, then it benefits the state to close down some of the programs.


17 posted on 11/18/2012 1:14:44 AM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: chessplayer

I actually was a professor at one of these for a few years. Felt guilty taking my paycheck as full time meant that I performed class instruction 10 hrs per week, 28 weeks per year. (2.5 hrs per class X 4 classes per week) My office hours were between my classes.

My last year there, they rearranged my schedule so I only worked Tuesday and Thursday (yes, I still was full time.) Didn’t even set foot on campus MWF. Unfortunately, my teaching schedule conflicted with court appearances for clients which was far more lucrative.

There was absolutely no pressure to publish or perform research at these institutions and the pay was much higher than most prestigious private universities.

I often joked that after working as a professor for the state for the state, I would never get a real job!!!


18 posted on 11/18/2012 2:48:55 AM PST by tired&retired
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To: tired&retired

By the way, after you teach a subject one semester, there is very little prep time for class, and with computers doing much of the work, even exam grading is a piece of cake.


19 posted on 11/18/2012 2:52:28 AM PST by tired&retired
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To: yldstrk

Wait, professors NEED a union?


20 posted on 11/18/2012 3:25:52 AM PST by Vanders9
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To: Vanders9

Of course professors need a union. How else can you protect low skilled easily replaced employees who make too much? Just look at the “bakers” for Hostess.


21 posted on 11/18/2012 3:42:29 AM PST by shoff (Vote Democratic it beats thinking!)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie
The students will join them "in sympathy for their cause".

Impeach the kenyan or secession.


22 posted on 11/18/2012 3:47:14 AM PST by ex91B10 (We've tried the Soap Box,the Ballot Box and the Jury Box; ONE BOX LEFT!)
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To: BlessedBeGod

Son is graduating from IUP in several weeks, got one niece in Millersville, and one niece in Clarion.

I hope they don’t strike before son graduates.


23 posted on 11/18/2012 3:51:44 AM PST by sneakers (Go Sheriff Joe!)
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To: chessplayer

No way. They should get rid of Tenure. First of all I work at the Naval Academy and they have to have Tenure within six years or they are fired immediately at the end of the 6th year. You could be the best Professor in the history of the school and it does not matter. So for six years, they have to get published, be on committees, and do a lot of research. It is a burden and should be thrown out. Professors should be able to just teach the students and not worry about doing other stuff that does not assist the students. There is too much pressure on Professors for such a small amount of money. However, after the sixth year, it is hard to get fired.


24 posted on 11/18/2012 4:30:23 AM PST by napscoordinator (GOP Candidate 2020 - "Bloomberg 2020 - We vote for whatever crap the GOP puts in front of us.")
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

Lots of key Democrat Senate seats up in 2014. Obama’s biggest nightmare is losing the Senate,

lol. For two elections, we have had more democrats up for reelection and the Republicans lost most of them. I doubt Obama worries about much.


25 posted on 11/18/2012 4:31:57 AM PST by napscoordinator (GOP Candidate 2020 - "Bloomberg 2020 - We vote for whatever crap the GOP puts in front of us.")
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To: chessplayer

As a prof I say this in jest: the students should pay them to stay out. Seriously I’m joking. Not.


26 posted on 11/18/2012 4:47:23 AM PST by LS ('Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually.' Hendrix)
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To: chessplayer

Let ‘em strike. Send everyone home. State government against unions, a win-win fight for conservatives. Pass the popcorn!


27 posted on 11/18/2012 5:18:41 AM PST by Tax-chick (Are you getting ready for the Advent Kitteh?)
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To: shoff

“Of course professors need a union. How else can you protect low skilled easily replaced employees who make too much? Just look at the “bakers” for Hostess.”

Very true. As I remember, many reject faculty were hired and then when they were denied tenure, the unions would step in and sue the university and get tenure for them.

The philosophy department would only hire lesbians....

You can’t image the cluster *%#@.


28 posted on 11/18/2012 6:00:52 AM PST by tired&retired
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To: sneakers

Lock Haven University is known as one of the top four lesbian universities in the USA.


29 posted on 11/18/2012 6:02:31 AM PST by tired&retired
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To: yldstrk

You bet. More common than you think.]
I am president of the faculty union at the college where it teach. Except for arts and science faculty, most of the fauclty are fairly conservative. Unfortunately, our union is part of the Maine Sate Employees Association which is part of the SEIU.

We just negoiated a contract that was considered to be a good one by all parties. I would not permit any left wing moonbatism from the MESA.


30 posted on 11/18/2012 6:05:23 AM PST by Maine Mariner
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To: Vanders9

Yes of course we do! Conservative faculty members then have protection against left wing moonbats in the administration.


31 posted on 11/18/2012 6:09:16 AM PST by Maine Mariner
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To: chessplayer

Shut it down! The question is, if you send your kid to college there will be no job for himor her in 4 years anyway so save your money and help shut down the government run taxpayer siphon, middleclass taxpaying, propaganda brainwashing machine. Put a liberal socialist commie out of work!


32 posted on 11/18/2012 6:22:25 AM PST by ronnie raygun (bb)
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To: Maine Mariner

I remember when working for a state, having to sit through a new employee presentation from a union rep. I pitched the folder in the trash before I left the room. Glad you are holding the line, but really really wonder why anyone above the level of janitor needs to be in a union.

It is especially wrong, it seems to me, to want to “maximize salaries” on the backs of taxpayers. I also remember when I was on active duty constantly hearing the mantra about how they weren’t getting paid what their “civilian counterpart” was making. Today, what a laugh. The government employee is making great money and benefits, while the civilian workforce has been gutted.


33 posted on 11/18/2012 6:22:25 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: BlessedBeGod

Sanduskey State


34 posted on 11/18/2012 7:07:39 AM PST by onedoug
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
Partial Occidental College Transcript uncovered (heh):


35 posted on 11/18/2012 7:09:04 AM PST by carriage_hill (America - a great idea while it lasted.)
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To: chessplayer

Colleges are too expensive already. Colleges will be half empty soon.


36 posted on 11/18/2012 7:21:53 AM PST by bmwcyle (Women reelected Obama)
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To: tired&retired

IUP has a large gay and lesbian group too. They proudly march in the yearly homecoming parade. We usually leave town on homecoming weekend, even though I graduated from there.


37 posted on 11/18/2012 7:33:45 AM PST by sneakers (Go Sheriff Joe!)
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To: tired&retired

I taught as a visiting assistant professor at one of the universities in that system for a year—I got paid about what I got at other temporary positions I had in those years, but the permanent faculty seemed to be paid quite a bit more than the faculty at comparable universities in other states. It was a four-course load (12 hours/week).


38 posted on 11/18/2012 2:24:52 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Maine Mariner

If the union is run by left wing moonbats, why would they protect you from left wing moonbat administrators?


39 posted on 11/19/2012 3:56:20 AM PST by Vanders9
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