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Video: Sophisticated Hamas Underground Missile Launchers
INN ^ | 11/18/12 | http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/162190#.UKiHZ2c51pk

Posted on 11/17/2012 11:07:33 PM PST by Nachum

The sophisticated underground rocket launcher system in Gaza has been exposed by the terrorist organization in a video it released Saturday.

The video indicates the amount of effort and money that Hamas invested in its anti-Israel military infrastructure that is partly financed by foreign aid and transfers by Israel of taxes collected on behalf of the Ramallah-based Palestinian Authority, which funnels part of the funds to Hamas.

The Israeli Air Force has knocked out a number of the underground sites, but it is not known how many remain.

Hamas has copied the Hizbullah tactic used in the 2006 Second Lebanon War, when Israeli intelligence was surprised by the use of underground bunkers and tunnels against the army.

(Excerpt) Read more at israelnationalnews.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Israel; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: egypt; gaza; hamas; iran; jihad; religionofhate; religionofpeace; religionofpieces; sophisticated; underground; video
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1 posted on 11/17/2012 11:07:41 PM PST by Nachum
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To: Nachum

I’ve never understood why Israel doesn’t go in and uproot this nonsense once and for all.


2 posted on 11/17/2012 11:19:35 PM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State)
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To: Nachum

“Sophisticated”??

A jerry-rigged homemade launcher made out of welded steel and a cinder block underground room with an electric motor lift mechanism. It’s as unsophisticated as the rockets themselves. No doubt it is hard to see from the air, but it must have one heck of a heat signature after the rockets are fired.


3 posted on 11/17/2012 11:22:39 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Utmost Certainty

If they can use Iron Dome to intercept missiles in flight, the should be able to target the launch sites quickly. My concern is about the number of coincident launches. I suspect there is a swarm strategy out there which may appear shortly.


4 posted on 11/17/2012 11:23:47 PM PST by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: Utmost Certainty

Yes, they need a -very- large DMZ. Several miles stripped of all cover, vegetation, buildings, and bulldozed as flat as possible. The land should all come from the Palestinian side.

This foolishness needs to end.


5 posted on 11/17/2012 11:24:14 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Wally_Kalbacken

The old MLRS system we had 20 years ago had amazing counterbattery rosponse capability. In addition to Iron Dome, there needs to be immediate and overwhelming counterbattery fire, within a minute or two of every launch.


6 posted on 11/17/2012 11:27:19 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Utmost Certainty
Israel is not “permitted” by the entire globe (and her moral sense) in going in and decimating Gaza once and for all. It is permissible for Israel to take thousands of incoming rounds and rockets since 2001 but react “too strongly” (or as they like to use the phrase) “proportional response” to the terror. If they wanted to, Israel could send Gaza back to the Stone Age in 30 minutes but...the US and Europe plus Russia and China will not let the Israelis do it. So, they are trapped in a Catch-22 situation. Look at the current operation, 1,000 sorties and “only” 50 dead Palis. No country in the world takes such precautions against harming noncombatants...
7 posted on 11/17/2012 11:28:35 PM PST by Netz (Netz)
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To: Nachum

The muzzie men have the time to do this sort of thing because they don’t have to hold jobs and work for a living.

They live on handouts from stupid and anti-semitic US politicians.

Ever notice in the newsreels how they are ready to swarm every car struck by an Israeli missle? In an instant they come out the woodwork like swarms of cockroaches no matter what the time. Without having to work they are always ready to go by the thousands.

Then the hordes run through the streets carrying the shrapnel blown up car parts cursing Israel and the US for the TV cameras.

The next day they are at the UN calling us cheapskats for not sending them more handouts.


8 posted on 11/17/2012 11:30:09 PM PST by Iron Munro (Robbing From The Hood and Boy Blunder - Our New Queen and King)
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To: Nachum

sophisticated?

They were propping rockets up on wooden frames.


9 posted on 11/17/2012 11:42:24 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: DesertRhino

several miles?

Do they even have several miles?


10 posted on 11/17/2012 11:43:52 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Our
Secretary of State is more sophisticated, here she is observing the situation

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjHs6_gdkus&feature=related


11 posted on 11/17/2012 11:46:04 PM PST by rolling_stone
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To: Utmost Certainty
" I’ve never understood why Israel doesn’t go in and uproot this nonsense once and for all. "

The SAMSON option ?

The green glass parking lots in the middle east would make tourist attractions by compliments of Israel thank you.
12 posted on 11/17/2012 11:49:00 PM PST by American Constitutionalist
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To: Nachum

fta ...and money that Hamas invested in its anti-Israel military infrastructure that is partly financed by foreign aid...
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And that includes the billions given to them in US foreign aid!

If the House and Senate really are serious about reducing spending, foreign aid is a huge target.


13 posted on 11/17/2012 11:51:24 PM PST by octex
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To: American Constitutionalist

Without Palestinians, Gaza could become a beach-front tourist destination with hotels and golf courses.


14 posted on 11/17/2012 11:53:25 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Iron Munro

Money from Norway, for example.

Just days ago, the Norwegian King awarded the highest decoration of the land to a muslim convert - Trond Ali Linstad - who wants the jews gone. It blew up in the royals face, prompting a withdrawal of the honor.

Now, the Norwegian “Christians” (the newspaper “Vårt Land” among others) are up in arms over the slight to the muslim.

Europe needs a severe spanking.


15 posted on 11/17/2012 11:53:29 PM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (I will fear no muslim))
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To: GeronL

Would not be one bit surprised that some of these weapons that are raining down on Israel are those weapons Obama gave to the Libyans, or the rebels in Syria then some how got funneled to these terrorist groups like Hamas.


16 posted on 11/17/2012 11:56:32 PM PST by American Constitutionalist
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To: Utmost Certainty

wwiii.


17 posted on 11/17/2012 11:59:34 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Hardraade

given the muslim birthrates and the lack thereof of native europeans, they are going to, big time.


18 posted on 11/18/2012 12:02:00 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: American Constitutionalist

bump


19 posted on 11/18/2012 12:03:06 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
It’s as unsophisticated as the rockets themselves. No doubt it is hard to see from the air, but it must have one heck of a heat signature after the rockets are fired.

Does it matter once they launch?
20 posted on 11/18/2012 12:07:31 AM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media. GOTV<GOTF)
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To: PA Engineer

Some of them have been shot down, a few anyways


21 posted on 11/18/2012 12:23:16 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL
Some of them have been shot down, a few anyways

True and important.
22 posted on 11/18/2012 12:24:58 AM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media. GOTV<GOTF)
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To: Hardraade

(i)slam is just about as useless as socialism and in the long run produces nothing but despair and dependency and eventually will fail. But apparently humanity has to go through these endless cycles of trials and errors ending in failures until eventually the realization set in to try something different, as only fools will try the same thing over and over and expect different results.


23 posted on 11/18/2012 12:48:57 AM PST by saintgermaine
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To: Nachum
@rupertmurdoch Can't Obama stop his friends in Egypt shelling Israel?
24 posted on 11/18/2012 12:51:56 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper (There goes the dominoes...)
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To: American Constitutionalist
green glass parking lots

Would make nice hover car race tracks, or wind surfing areas.

25 posted on 11/18/2012 12:52:45 AM PST by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: American Constitutionalist

Agreed. After all, that was Hussein Obama’s intent...


26 posted on 11/18/2012 1:02:29 AM PST by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: Nachum

Just for reference, everything in that video was available in 1918. Goddard’s tube-launched rockets (the Bazooka), the high-explosive warheads, the electrically-opened rocket-pad doors, even the firing controls.

Everything. Heck, even the color filming of the rocket launches was available in 1918.

A century ago.

The range and explosive power of those rockets is considerably **less** than the German Big-Bertha artillery of 1918, too.

Sophisticated?!

Not by any 1st world standard in the past 100+ years.


27 posted on 11/18/2012 1:02:33 AM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Nachum

Israel should drive everyone from Gaza into the Sinai.

Spray the whole damn place with some chemical agent that is very long lasting. Something that makes you so sick you long for the release of death. An agent that makes you feel horrible but does not actually cause physical harm.

Perhaps something that causes powerful diarrhea and nausea.
It’d be hard to be a raging jihadist if you had a huge pantload of ick with you all the time :-)


28 posted on 11/18/2012 1:26:34 AM PST by Bobalu (It is not obama we are fighting, it is the media.)
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To: Bobalu

Truthfully, would they know the difference?


29 posted on 11/18/2012 2:17:18 AM PST by snowtigger (. Thanx to Charlie Daniels, " Let them win, or bring them HOME")
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To: snowtigger

Lol, you have a point :-)


30 posted on 11/18/2012 2:37:24 AM PST by Bobalu (It is not obama we are fighting, it is the media.)
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To: American Constitutionalist

You mean you didn’t know why Chris Stevens was whacked ?


31 posted on 11/18/2012 2:47:39 AM PST by onona (Don't mean nothin)
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To: Southack

By golly, I haven’t heard Robert Goddard’s name mentioned in forever !

Quite an inventor.


32 posted on 11/18/2012 2:49:30 AM PST by onona (Don't mean nothin)
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To: Netz

not “permitted” by the entire globe

But it’s ok for Assad to murder his people. What a world.


33 posted on 11/18/2012 3:27:45 AM PST by FES0844
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To: FES0844
Of course Assad can butcher his own people and the world is silent. BTW, he condemned the Israeli operation.

The world's doube-standard is deafening. Where were all the Liberals from 2001-2012 when Israel was getting bombed on a daily basis?

Now that Israel is trying to remove a murderous threat to her population centers it's no, no, no - be “proportional” in your attacks.

34 posted on 11/18/2012 3:49:23 AM PST by Netz (Netz)
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To: Netz
Israel is not “permitted” by the entire globe (and her moral sense) in going in and decimating Gaza once and for all

A mere 10% wouldn't be enough to put a stop to the launches.

35 posted on 11/18/2012 4:23:14 AM PST by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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To: ASA Vet

Perhaps not, but 10% each time so much as a firework leaves the ground and even a rabble as stupid as a these so called “palestinians” would figure out something else to do to occupy their time.

And if not, the situation would correct itself eventually.


36 posted on 11/18/2012 5:19:23 AM PST by Dr.Zoidberg (John Winthrop's "City upon a Hill" just became a midden heap. Infested with rats and other vermin.)
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To: Nachum
Note were not shown the condition of this "awesome" launcher after the launch.

Regardless, doesn't it make one proud that at least some of the money Congress borrows to give to these people ends up, at the very least, in props rather than in the Swiss bank accounts of Hamas leadership.

Wonder who gets those "ones and zeros" in Zurich after a Hamas leader gets smoked by an air launched missile?

37 posted on 11/18/2012 5:36:51 AM PST by Prospero
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To: Bobalu

“Spray the whole damn place with some chemical agent that is very long lasting. Something that makes you so sick you long for the release of death. An agent that makes you feel horrible but does not actually cause physical harm.”

Hearing obama speak does that for me. Maybe they can bottle it?


38 posted on 11/18/2012 5:52:20 AM PST by Kent1957
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To: Utmost Certainty

You and me both. Kill them when one rocket heads to Israel.


39 posted on 11/18/2012 6:00:23 AM PST by Pit1 (Nobama.)
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To: DesertRhino

The use of radar is the principle device that makes counterbattery fire possible. Unfortunately, the Pally’s use of launching sites that are next to schools and baby milk factories causes the Israelis to hesitate before firing back.


40 posted on 11/18/2012 7:04:22 AM PST by batterycommander (a little more rubble, a lot less trouble)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Yep.......

It is about as technical as a garage door opener. Maybe less so since it lacks photo sensors for emergency stop


41 posted on 11/18/2012 7:17:16 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: octex
If the House and Senate really are serious about reducing spending, foreign aid is a huge target.

Obama's first act in office was to expand this aid to Gaza and the the 'West Bank'. I seriously doubt that the House can stop it and that the Senate DemocRATs would go against their leader. Bleh.

42 posted on 11/18/2012 7:31:15 AM PST by Nachum (The List was hacked- www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

Drive them into the sea. Clean out Gaza


43 posted on 11/18/2012 7:36:09 AM PST by bmwcyle (Women reelected Obama)
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To: GeronL

-——Some of them have been shot down-———

There are rockets and then there are rockets.

Those shot down are larger and longer range and more sophisticated than the home made rockets shown in the video.

Those shot down come from Iran


44 posted on 11/18/2012 7:53:04 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: batterycommander
The use of radar is the principle device that makes counterbattery fire possible. Unfortunately, the Pally’s use of launching sites that are next to schools and baby milk factories causes the Israelis to hesitate before firing back.

Israel should make it known public policy that they intend to eradicate any launch site in Gaza regardless of collateral damage. Israel should inform the citizens of Gaza that if terrorists are near you, there is a very high probability that you to will soon die.

This is what will happen: An airburst is around 200-250 yards against all targets not in trenches with overhead cover or in sturdy buildings.

A ground burst around half that (but is obviously more effective against targets dug in close to the point of impact).

By 'effective' I mean almost very team in the danger zone is going to get pinned with a risk of casualties or be destroyed unless they are in decent cover.

These 500 lb iron bombs can be fitted with precision guidance systems from Raytheon "Paveway" and it will go where you want it. Hamas understands that civilians are an integral part of the equation of war and conflict. Israel needs to learn this also.

45 posted on 11/18/2012 9:54:01 AM PST by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud Man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist. THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: onona
" You mean you didn’t know why Chris Stevens was whacked ? "

He was whacked Chicago style aka cover up by the Obama administration.
46 posted on 11/19/2012 3:34:27 AM PST by American Constitutionalist
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To: piytar
Yup... forget about what he said during the presidential debates that he would come to Israel's defense... far from it.
He, Obama is bent on Israel's destruction.
47 posted on 11/19/2012 3:36:19 AM PST by American Constitutionalist
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To: Nachum
Genesis 12:3:

And I will bless them that bless you, and curse him that curses you: and in you shall all families of the earth be blessed.

God will bless those who bless Israel, who protect Israel, who pray for Israel.

SORRY JIM ROB I GOT TO SAY IT !

BAN ME IF YOU WANT TO IF I SAY THIS.. BUT IT'S GOT TO BE SAID !

GOD DAMN THOSE WHO HARM ISRAEL !

GOD DAMN THOSE WHO ARE BENT ON ISRAEL'S DESTRUCTION !

GOD DAMN THOSE WHO ARE AGAINST ISRAEL !
48 posted on 11/19/2012 3:40:41 AM PST by American Constitutionalist
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To: Nachum
Yes Jim Rob I place my self on the alter of sacrifice in defense of Israel and if you have to ban me for what I say, let it be written and let it be done.


GOD DAMN THOSE WHO HATE ISRAEL !

GOD DAMN THOSE WHO ARE AGAINST ISRAEL !

MUSLIMS ? COME AFTER ME ! NOT ISRAEL !

MUSLIMS ? YOUR FALSE GOD IS THE GOD OF BAAL WORSHIP !
YOUR GOD IS THE ANTI-CHRIST !

YOUR PROPHET IS A UNGODLY PIECE OF CRAP !

YES MUSLIMS ! COME AFTER ME AND NOT ISRAEL !

I PLACE MY SELF ON THE ALTER OF SACRIFICE FOR ISRAEL !
49 posted on 11/19/2012 3:52:58 AM PST by American Constitutionalist
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To: Wally_Kalbacken

My biggest problem with Iron Dome is that the Palis will be able to bankrupt Israel by shooting $1000 rockets to be intercepted by $500,000 missiles.


50 posted on 11/19/2012 4:21:31 AM PST by Little Ray (I have VOTED AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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