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Teachers Say Media-Use Is Harming Kidsí Performance
Mashable ^ | November 2, 2012 | Juliana Gruenwald for National Journal

Posted on 11/18/2012 4:50:47 PM PST by mdittmar

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Well,I don't have any kids,but if I did I would say,"don't t listen to your teacher,listen to me"
1 posted on 11/18/2012 4:50:53 PM PST by mdittmar
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To: mdittmar

They’d better be adept in electronic communication, or they’ll be left behind.


2 posted on 11/18/2012 4:55:39 PM PST by bannie ("The gov't that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.")
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To: mdittmar

I’ve been saying it for a long time. All the advances in communication technology are destroying peoples ability to communicate.


3 posted on 11/18/2012 4:57:29 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: bigheadfred
I’ve been saying it for a long time. All the advances in communication technology are destroying peoples ability to communicate.

And the most anti social, unpolished and lonely group of people I've ever seen. (for all their social media stuff too).

4 posted on 11/18/2012 5:00:27 PM PST by llevrok (I haven't left America. It left me.)
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To: mdittmar

Their attention span went away when Sesame Street came on the scene in the 60’s.


5 posted on 11/18/2012 5:01:16 PM PST by Abby4116
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To: bannie

Logical, subject-related homework, lots of it, and performance-based grading leaves them no time. For those who don’t care or who are addicted, Oh Boy.

Also, incentivize group parent meetings.

Primary - classic curriculum has many advantages 1- keeps kids interested- characters in classical lit and their behaviors and interactions are interesting, logical and instructive. 2 - kids know we care about them when we teach them relevant subjects. etc.


6 posted on 11/18/2012 5:02:19 PM PST by stanne
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To: bannie
There is a significant change in how the world works today vs. how it did when I was in short pants. I generally kept up because I stayed at the bleeding edge, but I'm behind the crest of the wave now.

Many of the skills that were important in the past will not be or are not important now or in the future.

Writing in cursive? Archaic. Forget that I got graded on it in grade school.... It's not required today.

I've seen teens of today communicate. Looks like they communicate among themselves just fine. I may not understand it, but I'm also archaic.

New times, new ways. The rate of change will only increase.

/johnny

7 posted on 11/18/2012 5:05:34 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

But can they communicate well with anyone outside their peer group?


8 posted on 11/18/2012 5:12:43 PM PST by A_perfect_lady
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To: mdittmar

Yeah, the kids can’t be indoctrinated properly when they might have access to the truth and what’s really going on in America.


9 posted on 11/18/2012 5:15:51 PM PST by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's agenda¬óDivide and conquer. FREEDOM OR FREE STUFF- YOU GET ONE CHOICE, CHOOSE WISELY)
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To: bigheadfred

“I’ve been saying it for a long time. All the advances in communication technology are destroying peoples ability to communicate.”

And you would be wrong...

It’s actually improving it.


10 posted on 11/18/2012 5:16:07 PM PST by babygene
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To: Abby4116

Sesame Street has a lot to do with the deterioration of education, according to a former eng prof. She said students raised with it expect to be entertained in the class. Said she never heard things like “I don’t want to do that it’s boring”, prior.

Kids are hungry for the truth and also are willing to learn to communicate. They enjoy gaining knowledge and knowing. they just need a good environment.

Teachers need to quit whining and teach. Treat kids with respect, discipline them, be willing to be a bossy adult, and concede to never being their friend until they are adults, treat the boys like gents and they will be opening doors by the end of the year, and homework every night no questions asked (except holidays respect their need for a break).


11 posted on 11/18/2012 5:16:37 PM PST by stanne
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To: A_perfect_lady

^^^But can they communicate well with anyone outside their peer group^^^

Why would that be important these days? It isn’t like 80% of the world’s wealth is controlled by folks over the age of 60. Wait....what?


12 posted on 11/18/2012 5:19:31 PM PST by wrench
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To: A_perfect_lady
Some can. Some can't, and don't seem to need to.

I'm as uncomfortable as anyone with the changes, but they are going to happen, whether I like it or not.

I saw a group of children of my many cousins a while back and I was wearing the Phil Zimmerman PGP T-shirt, from back when PGP was outlawed and Clinton was trying to outlaw all encryption.

The kids looked at the front, saw it was radical perl code, looked at the back and read "This Shirt Is a Munition" and freaked out that I was wearing something that belonged in a museum (according to them).

It hasn't been THAT long ago. But for them it is ancient history.

/johnny

13 posted on 11/18/2012 5:20:11 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: bigheadfred

It makes people be in too much of a hurry and have no respect for patience.


14 posted on 11/18/2012 5:25:54 PM PST by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: bigheadfred

It makes people be in too much of a hurry and have no respect for patience.


15 posted on 11/18/2012 5:26:00 PM PST by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: JRandomFreeper

Oh well. The majority of them are meant for menial jobs anyway. I suppose those capable of rising above this trend will do so.


16 posted on 11/18/2012 5:35:38 PM PST by A_perfect_lady
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To: A_perfect_lady
When I was a small child, I overheard my paternal grandfather telling my mother that while I had hebrew, french, and latin education... that I didn't have any grounding in greek would mean I was uneducated and remain ignorant.

He couldn't imagine today's world. I try to remember that, and temper my judgements of the next generation.

/johnny

17 posted on 11/18/2012 5:40:16 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

He was right. A glance at the last election shows me what happens 60 years after you stop teaching Greek. Does the phrase “doomed to repeat it” ring a bell?


18 posted on 11/18/2012 5:44:34 PM PST by A_perfect_lady
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To: JRandomFreeper

When I was a small child, I overheard my paternal grandfather telling my mother that while I had hebrew, french, and latin education... that I didn’t have any grounding in greek would mean I was uneducated and remain ignorant.

Grandpa was right. Students who have taken even a single year of Latin and/or Greek score much higher on SATs and most other measures than do students who have not studied Latin and Greek. Educators stopped requiring Latin and Greek because they require a fair amount of rote memory in the first year of study and rote memory might bore poor Johnny, whose teachers have been taught by the “progressive” teacher training schools that Johnny’s studies should not tax his little brain and should be fun, fun, fun all the time. These “untaxed” students are getting taxed mightily now as a result of their inability to understand how bad Obama is for them and the country.


19 posted on 11/18/2012 6:05:28 PM PST by Best and Brightest
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Needs to be on balance as mentioned at the end of the article.


20 posted on 11/18/2012 6:05:28 PM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: mdittmar

Government schools do more harm to kids than anything else.


21 posted on 11/18/2012 6:12:50 PM PST by Pining_4_TX ( The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else. ~)
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To: Best and Brightest
Grandpa was right. Students who have taken even a single year of Latin and/or Greek score much higher on SATs and most other measures than do students who have not studied Latin and Greek. Educators stopped requiring Latin and Greek because they require a fair amount of rote memory in the first year of study and rote memory might bore poor Johnny,

No, they stopped requiring Latin and Greek, because it would required TEACHERS who themselves understood Latin and Greek. It's hard enough to find teachers who understand proper English grammar, or high-school algebra. Teachers these days come from the lowest SAT stratum.

22 posted on 11/18/2012 6:17:19 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (political correctness is communist thought control, disguised as good manners)
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To: mdittmar
More importantly, modern electronic usage actually changes the human brain. More and more studies are showing actual cognitive differences.

One of the casualties of modern media is patience and concentration. Professional web developers are trained that a website which requires the user to search for more than 4 seconds will result in the user clicking the back button and finding another website.

However, when you look at all of the major intellectual accomplishments since the middle ages, they have all been due to the ability to study and concentrate (something developed, for Westerners at least, in the monasteries and later in the universities) and focus carefully on minutia. No one can comprehend (much less improve upon) highly technical sciences like quantum mechanics while "multi-tasking".

So far I have seen no evidence that whatever skills that modern youth are developing through multi-media consumption will be more efficient or of greater value than the skills that they are demonstrably losing... including those patterns of thinking that have created the modern world and all of its advances...

23 posted on 11/18/2012 6:21:50 PM PST by Charles H. (The_r0nin) (Hwaet! Lar bith maest hord, sothlice!)
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To: bannie

Read, “The Dumbest Generation”, it’s an eye opener. With all the electronic communication our kids are getting dumber than dirt.


24 posted on 11/18/2012 6:22:32 PM PST by USAF80
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To: Charles H. (The_r0nin)

The convenience of the web spoils us. That four seconds may whittle down to two as overall performance improves in the future. People get expectations.


25 posted on 11/18/2012 6:26:33 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: Charles H. (The_r0nin)
I totally agree with you. I have some lefty friends who claim their son has some learning disability or some crap like that.

I saw him freaking out one day, he was speaking really fast and his speech was unintelligible to me until I saw that he was saying the dialogue of a show on the TV. He was saying it so fast that the average person could not follow what he was saying.

26 posted on 11/18/2012 6:26:53 PM PST by USAF80
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To: mdittmar

I think the real issue teachers have with the media is they are worried that computer courses will make their jobs go away.


27 posted on 11/18/2012 6:27:03 PM PST by TruthWillWin (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples money.)
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To: Best and Brightest
I had a couple of years of hebrew and latin, many years of french, and a bit of spanish in formal education.

Do you really think that greek made that much difference?

/johnny

28 posted on 11/18/2012 6:31:34 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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When I was a small child, I overheard my paternal grandfather telling my mother that while I had hebrew, french, and latin education... that I didn’t have any grounding in greek would mean I was uneducated and remain ignorant.
He couldn’t imagine today’s world. I try to remember that, and temper my judgements of the next generation.

/johnny
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Funny to hear that. I had French, Italian, Latin and English languages as well as a smattering of German. , and my children think that they are “all that and a bag of chips” when they learned Spanish. They have no clue.

no greek though. Although is was offered at school.


29 posted on 11/18/2012 6:34:16 PM PST by Chickensoup (Leftist Totalitarian Fascism coming to a country like yours.)
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To: Pining_4_TX
Government schools do more harm to kids than anything else.

I can't disagree with that. Private school or home school is the only way to go.

/johnny

30 posted on 11/18/2012 6:40:05 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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....and my children think that they are “all that and a bag of chips” when they learned Spanish. They have no clue.

My 14yo daughter absolutely refuses to take Spanish in school. Her attitude is all she needs to do to learn it is stop in the local convenience store.......

She had the opportunity in 8th grade to take Spanish 1, but chose chorus/music instead and will be taking French1 next semester. She started teaching herself French when she was in kindergarten, and now is earning Japanese on her own.

31 posted on 11/18/2012 6:42:57 PM PST by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: Gabz
Working in the back of house in a restaurant gives you a fairly useful grasp of spanish. ;)

/johnny

32 posted on 11/18/2012 6:45:14 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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And, yet, many schools want to put iPads in these kids’ hands instead of textbooks!!

Are we now in a race to see if we can produce the DUMBEST kids on the planet!!???


33 posted on 11/18/2012 6:50:38 PM PST by DustyMoment (Congress - another name for white collar criminals!!)
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To: JRandomFreeper

*SNORT*

Actually, my aunt speaks to her in Spanish at times, and French as well. She had spent 20+ years of her career in Spanish speaking countries and it is practically 2nd nature to her. In July the 2 of them went to a Japanese Art Deco exhibit at the John Ringling Museum and my aunt was duly impressed by how much my daughter was able to translate.


34 posted on 11/18/2012 6:51:04 PM PST by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: bigheadfred
All the advances in communication technology are destroying peoples ability to communicate.

I worked in the communications industry for over 30 years. We had a saying that went like this: "Those of us in the communications industry do the least amount of it."

And, unfortunately, it is STILL true!!

35 posted on 11/18/2012 6:52:46 PM PST by DustyMoment (Congress - another name for white collar criminals!!)
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To: DustyMoment

If a system can save $$ by using electronic books, I don’t have a problem with that. Catholic schools here in Indiana are using them, and believe me they are the ones that struggle with budgets.


36 posted on 11/18/2012 6:55:18 PM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's bankruptcy: 2016)
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To: Gabz
One set of my grandbabies are getting English, Cambodian (their grandparents on the other side), and Spanish. My grandsons (granddaughter is too young to evaluate) are very comfortable with modern electronics of all kinds, and adapt quickly to new equipment.

Grandpa makes sure they know what a trebouchet is, why it is important, and can rebuild the model that I gave them. That set, at least is getting a good education.

The other poor grandkids are in California. Lord help 'em.

/johnny

37 posted on 11/18/2012 6:56:59 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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And, yet, many schools want to put iPads in these kids’ hands instead of textbooks!!

My daughter, in 9th grade, has plenty of textbooks - but is allowed to bring her own iPad to school for note taking. I have noticed her note taking ability to have improved immensely since she started bringing it to school, as she types faster than she writes.

However, classwork and assignments to be turned in must be handwritten - and legibility is part of the grades.

38 posted on 11/18/2012 6:58:08 PM PST by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: nascarnation
I'll second that on the E-books. I quit buying dead tree books this year unless they have historical or collectible significance.

/johnny

39 posted on 11/18/2012 6:59:20 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Good for Grandpa!


40 posted on 11/18/2012 7:06:04 PM PST by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: A_perfect_lady

The majority of who are meant for menial jobs? Teenagers?


41 posted on 11/18/2012 7:09:19 PM PST by ShadowDancer ("Don't expect to build up the weak by pulling down the strong.")
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To: mdittmar

I am a GED instructor and a mother of two children born 15 years apart. I would say this is ABSOLUTELY true.

I read where they did a man-on-the-street in China where they have been using electronic gadgets a lot longer than us. They asked 20 somethings to write their name. They could not remember the characters. Without their gadgets they can’t communicate in writing.

The technology is moving faster than we are. We need to slow down and help these young folks learn the basics. The can pick up the technology on their own later. We did!


42 posted on 11/18/2012 7:14:31 PM PST by Jude in WV
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Teachers Say Media-Use Is Harming Kids’ Performance

Right, it has nothing to do with the Teachers Unions or the over-paid pre-madonna Teachers that do anything but actually teach in the classrooms. They're too focused on political correctness and the homosexual agenda to do that.

43 posted on 11/18/2012 7:19:33 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: ShadowDancer

Humans.


44 posted on 11/18/2012 7:28:12 PM PST by A_perfect_lady
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To: JRandomFreeper

I love dead trees.


45 posted on 11/18/2012 7:29:10 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: mdittmar
A new study released on Thursday finds teachers are concerned that the amount and types of electronic media that children interact with at home may be harming their performance in the classroom.

Gee... ya think so!

46 posted on 11/18/2012 7:32:47 PM PST by mtg
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To: bigheadfred
I do like dead trees for smoking meats (mesquite and pecan, or apple for pork).

Otherwise, paper books, besides my antique collection, are more expensive, more liable to damage, take up more room, and don't give me any benefit for my day-to-day reading.

I don't need any more dead trees in the house for day-to-day reading.

/johnny

47 posted on 11/18/2012 7:34:09 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: bannie

You can know how to operate social media and NOT be irresponsible and obsessed with it. There is a lot to learn in life and relationships with others requires human interaction. Self discipline is a lost art.

Video games and social media should not replace human interaction and reading.


48 posted on 11/18/2012 7:36:04 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: JRandomFreeper

I don’t know why, but books are comforting to me.


49 posted on 11/18/2012 7:37:24 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: JRandomFreeper

Dead tree books, no batteries required.


50 posted on 11/18/2012 7:38:50 PM PST by USAF80
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