Here's a Hunch: Obama doesn’t want a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff

Hotair ^ | 11/17/2012 | Jazz Shaw

[NewJerseyJoe]

P4L

[TxAg1981]

What is so hard to believe?

MaoBama wants to DESTROY the United States.
PERIOD Whether financially, or through a Constitutional Convention. He wants the United States to be no more!!!
Once you realize that, all things become possible for this low life

[Graewoulf]

Duh, the Fiscal Cliff was Obama’s idea! Of course he does not want to solve it!

[fortheDeclaration]

All taxes, only cuts to Defense=GOP ‘compromise’

[stephenjohnbanker]

” Republicans are terrified.”

ALWAYS....every day, on every issue.

1) Why we lost the election

2) Why we lose on everything else.

[stephenjohnbanker]

” Very simple solution here. Let the automatic spending cuts expire without doing anything. and forget about entitlements for now. Why give that to Obama?”

Bingo!

[sickoflibs]

” Republicans are terrified.” ALWAYS....every day, on every issue.1) Why we lost the election, 2) Why we lose on everything else.

Maybe what we need to offer is one stop amnesty centers where they can pick up their green cards, sign up for food stamps and Obama-care, register their kids for school or free college, apply for citizenship and register to vote. All in Spanish with Spanish-English interpreters (for those who cant read Spanish either)

I bet Republicans could out-Santa Obama! Then they will vote for 'tax cuts for the rich'

You see any flaws in this plan?

[ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas]

Maybe what we need to offer is one stop amnesty centers where they can pick up their green cards, sign up for food stamps and Obama-care, register their kids for school or free college, apply for citizenship and register to vote. All in Spanish with Spanish-English interpreters (for those who cant read Spanish either)

WRT "fiscal cliff negotiations," the GOP can cave on tax cuts in exchange for spending cuts that won't happen, and then Charlie Brown will say that Lucy moved the football they would have kicked beautifully if Dems had not played that dirty trick.

WRT amnesty, they don't even need Lucy to move the football. The GOP (including those brilliant GOP advisers on TV and radio) will happily promise to "secure the border, never do it again, get Hispanic votes," etc., with a straight face.

[newfreep]

Paul Krugman: “Raise top tax rate to 91%”

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/19/opinion/krugman-the-twinkie-manifesto.html?ref=opinion

[stephenjohnbanker]

” Yet in the 1950s incomes in the top bracket faced a marginal tax rate of 91, that’s right, 91 percent, “

Bare-faced LIE. Back then, you could deduct everything except AIR!

[newfreep]

You mean Krugman is a stupid, marxist idiot who doesn’t know what he’s talking about?

/rhetorical

[sickoflibs]

RE “WRT “fiscal cliff negotiations,” the GOP can cave on tax cuts in exchange for spending cuts that won't happen, and then Charlie Brown will say that Lucy moved the football they would have kicked beautifully if Dems had not played that dirty trick.

Those sneaky Dems they promised us again. not again. They are diabolical and evil.

Reminds me of a freeper here who told me the Romney 47% video was all Dems fault because they are so evil they recorded him. It wasnt Romney's for being stupid. I actually forgot to answer that one.

How come we cant some evil (=smart) ones on the R side beating Dems for a change?

[SeekAndFind]

RE: Those sneaky Dems they promised us again. not again. They are diabolical and evil.

It happened more than once in the past. Both times under Republican Presidents.

Ronald Reagan explains a little farther in his autobiography: He did accept tax hikes “in return for (the Democrats’) agreement to cut spending by $280 billion,” but, Reagan continues, “the Democrats reneged on their pledge and we never got those cuts.”

President George H.W. Bush made the exact same deal with Democrats just a few years later.

Pretending to care about the deficit — created exclusively by their own profligate spending — Democrats demanded that Bush agree to a “balanced budget” package with both spending cuts and tax increases.

In June 1990, Bush did so, agreeing to tax hikes in defiance of his “read-my-lips, no-new-taxes” campaign pledge.

Again, Democrats, being Democrats, produced no spending cuts, and within two years the increased federal spending had led to a doubling of the deficit.

The Democrats didn’t care: All that mattered was that they had tricked Bush into breaking his tax pledge, which they celebrated all the way to Bush’s defeat in the next election.

We’re going to repeat the same insanity again hoping for a different result...

Who was it who said : “Those who don’t learn from history are doomed to repeat it.”?

[ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas]

Reminds me of a freeper here who told me the Romney 47% video was all Dems fault because they are so evil they recorded him. It wasnt Romney's for being stupid.

Not only that, but instead of airing it immediately, they waited until a few weeks before election day. Diabolical!

[sickoflibs]

RE “Reminds me of a freeper here who told me the Romney 47% video was all Dems fault because they are so evil they recorded him. It wasnt Romney's for being stupid.
......
Not only that, but instead of airing it immediately, they waited until a few weeks before election day. Diabolical!”

I keep hearing some freepers talking about what a hero Romney is for ‘telling the truth’ while secretly recorded... twice ???
But if Romney knew (’the truth’) that half the country are moochers who want free stuff and wont vote for him then why did he keep telling us that tax cuts for guys like him was going to win the election?

Talk about incompetence : You see this story about the RNC hiring a company known for fraud who generated useless phony voter registrations (make believe people who wouldn't vote) and then having to fire them(the company) at a critical point in the campaign?

Republicans in the swing states of Colorado, Florida, North Carolina and Virginia have paid Strategic Allied Consulting at least $3 million in recent months for voter registration and get-out-the-vote efforts, although the issues appear to be limited to Florida.
The story was first reported by NBC News.
Petti, Strategic Allied Consulting’s attorney in Arizona, said the consulting firm tracked the suspect signatures, which he said led to the single employee who was fired.
The lawyer said he did not know more details, but guessed that the now-fired employee had provided “false signatures” by completing voter registration “applications and (writing in) people's names.”
Other Florida counties have been looking into their voter registration cards, the lawyer said, and as many as a couple hundred other signatures may be in question.
RNC cuts ties with firm tied to questionable voter registration applications ( September 28th, 2012)

Yep, looks like Romney/RNC didn't turn out these made up people to vote.

[sickoflibs]

RE :”It happened more than once in the past. Both times under Republican Presidents.
Ronald Reagan explains a little farther in his autobiography: He did accept tax hikes “in return for (the Democrats’) agreement to cut spending by $280 billion,” but, Reagan continues, “the Democrats reneged on their pledge and we never got those cuts.”
President George H.W. Bush made the exact same deal with Democrats just a few years later.
Pretending to care about the deficit — created exclusively by their own profligate spending — Democrats demanded that Bush agree to a “balanced budget” package with both spending cuts and tax increases.
In June 1990, Bush did so, agreeing to tax hikes in defiance of his “read-my-lips, no-new-taxes” campaign pledge.”

GHW Bush has already admitted that he raised taxes to get a deal out of the way so he could go into Gulf I without opposition.

We were being sarcastic about these well meaning over-trusting Republicans getting snookered time after time because they are such nice guys.

Both sides want deficits when they are seen in charge.
They both want to save their own sides pork and want to use spending and tax cuts to gain/save enough voters to win elections. Neither are serious.\

Last year 2011 Ryan and CO with Dems passed a bunch of automatic spending cuts that will go into effect in a month or so.
Who has been screaming that these same spending cuts they passed will destroy this country this past 8 months or so? Republicans! Dems haven't said a word about them, or at least very little. This is after Ryan on the House floor called it a historical bipartision success
So what will they do with those spending cuts now?