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Fight Over Nativity Scene In Santa Monica Heads To Court
AP) ^ | November 18, 2012 10:59 AM

Posted on 11/18/2012 5:19:17 PM PST by BenLurkin

The city of Santa Monica has allowed an elaborate nativity scene in its Palisades Park each Christmas for nearly 60 years, but officials are ending the tradition this year after an atheist set up his own non-religious display and caused an uproar.

Now, the churches behind the nativity are suing in federal court and claim the city violated their freedom of speech by stopping the holiday tradition.

A court hearing Monday in U.S. District Court in Los Angeles could decide the fate of the Christian tableau for the upcoming season.

(Excerpt) Read more at losangeles.cbslocal.com ...


TOPICS: US: California
KEYWORDS: ca; california; nativityscene; santamonica; waronchristmas; waronchristmas2012
And yet the liberals claim there is no war on Christmas.
1 posted on 11/18/2012 5:19:21 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

My guess is no one will ever see the nativity again.


2 posted on 11/18/2012 5:26:59 PM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012

This is Sta Monica, mind you. Only if Buttcrack Obama was in the scene will it only be allowed to stay.


3 posted on 11/18/2012 5:35:59 PM PST by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: BenLurkin
These atheist maggots have nothing to celebrate - nothing to affirm - nothing to glorify. The Nativity, the life of the Holy Family, the Crucifixion and Resurrection provide us a solid ethos and rubric for guiding our lives aright.

The atheists are akin to the ancient women in the Eliot poem - they gather fuel in vacant lots. They believe in nothing and they are nothing.



Genuflectimus non ad principem sed ad Principem Pacis!

Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)

4 posted on 11/18/2012 5:48:34 PM PST by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: BenLurkin
One can only guess how the Ninth Circus will rule.
5 posted on 11/18/2012 6:30:34 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Benghazi: What Did Baraq Know And When Did He Know It?)
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To: ilovesarah2012

5 to 1 the Christians lose.


6 posted on 11/18/2012 6:39:17 PM PST by Venturer
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To: BenLurkin
King Barry already stole Christmas at our house with the high gas prices. We save up from about June to November every year but this year there was nothing left to put in the envelope and save every month because it went in the gas tank.

If anyone has some lefty friends who try and defend the media you don't have to get to anything as big as Benghazi. Just ask them why the media made a huge deal out of gasoline getting to $3 at one point when Bush was in but don't say a word when it hovers around $4 and takes every extra penny average working folks have.

7 posted on 11/18/2012 6:43:38 PM PST by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: Rashputin

Ohhhhhh, because when REPUBLICANS were in charge, the high price wasn’t pushing people to GREEN ENERGY!


8 posted on 11/18/2012 6:47:01 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: BenLurkin

So what did the atheist “creche” look like anyhow.


9 posted on 11/18/2012 6:48:00 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: ConorMacNessa

Atheists are irritated by Christianity and want to see it belittled, even though philosophy itself tells them they can’t even think themselves out of the wet paper bag of solipsism. Their game is all posturing and vitriol.


10 posted on 11/18/2012 6:51:43 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: BenLurkin

Why do I have to tolerate gays kissing in public, but no one has to “tolerate” a nativity scene in public?


11 posted on 11/18/2012 6:53:30 PM PST by ThePatriotsFlag
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Good point, and thanks for the use of the word "solipsism." It's a word I heard and used often in my undergrad days - a word that explains much of what is wrong with the world today. The most beautiful example I can recall of solipsism is the poem "Tea in the Palaz of Hoon" by Wallace Stevens:

Not less because in purple I descended
The western day through what you called
The loneliest air, not less was I myself.

What was the ointment sprinkled on my beard?
What were the hymns that buzzed beside my ears?
What was the sea whose tide swept through me there?

Out of my mind the golden ointment rained,
And my ears made the blowing hymns they heard.
I was myself the compass of that sea:

I was the world in which I walked, and what I saw
Or heard or felt came not but from myself;
And there I found myself more truly and more strange.



Genuflectimus non ad principem sed ad Principem Pacis!

Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)

12 posted on 11/18/2012 7:10:42 PM PST by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: ConorMacNessa

To go anywhere out of yourself you have to “believe” your way out of it... that doesn’t mean creating fantasies of course, this simply means continuing to hold true in the darkness what you learned in the light.


13 posted on 11/18/2012 7:24:08 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: BenLurkin; doug from upland

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1942015/posts

Ontario Ca still has a Nativity Scene on city property. And a better airport than LAX.


14 posted on 11/18/2012 7:43:57 PM PST by ThomasThomas
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Ain’t that ironic, since there’s no 1st amendment counterpart in the Canadian constitution to abuse this way... it can’t be abused that way. Canada would tell the likes of the ACLU to go pound sand about the nativity scenes.


15 posted on 11/18/2012 7:57:24 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

16 posted on 11/18/2012 8:04:38 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: BenLurkin

In Santa Monica.

St. Monica was the mother of St. Augustine, a doctor of the Church, widely read as one to lead others to Jeasus with his theology.

She prayed for him for 17 years to convert to Christianity.

He had been a pagan and a very bad man besides.

How ironic that this should occur in a town named for her.


17 posted on 11/18/2012 8:09:48 PM PST by stanne
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To: BenLurkin

That’s a hate-Christian display. I thought they’d have figures of “Reason” and the such strutting about.


18 posted on 11/18/2012 8:09:59 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: BenLurkin

In Santa Monica.

St. Monica was the mother of St. Augustine, a doctor of the Church, widely read as one to lead others to Jeasus with his theology.

She prayed for him for 17 years to convert to Christianity.

He had been a pagan and a very bad man besides.

How ironic that this should occur in a town named for her.


19 posted on 11/18/2012 8:09:59 PM PST by stanne
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Ontario Ca about 50 miles from Santa Monica on the I10.


20 posted on 11/18/2012 8:19:35 PM PST by ThomasThomas
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To: ThomasThomas

Oh DUH, was thinking Canada.


21 posted on 11/18/2012 8:21:07 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: ConorMacNessa
The atheists are akin to the ancient women in the Eliot poem - they gather fuel in vacant lots. They believe in nothing and they are nothing.

Who is winning this war???

22 posted on 11/18/2012 9:21:09 PM PST by Digger
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To: Venturer
5 to 1 the Christians lose.

WHY????????

23 posted on 11/18/2012 9:22:09 PM PST by Digger
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To: Digger

They lost.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2961033/posts

There was no doubt in my mind they would lose.

Christianity is under attack in America, and we are losing.


24 posted on 11/19/2012 5:53:40 AM PST by Venturer
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