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Breitbart ^ | 11/18/2012 | MICHAEL PATRICK LEAHY

Posted on 11/19/2012 7:42:07 AM PST by SeekAndFind

On November 6, 2012, 3.2 million fewer Americans voted for Mitt Romney than President Obama. 61.8 million Americans voted for Obama, while only 58.6 million voted for Romney.

Despite losing the popular vote 51% to 48%--not a landslide for Obama by any means, but on the other hand not the “neck and neck” outcome many predicted--Mitt Romney would be President today if he had secured 333,908 more votes in four key swing states.

The final electoral college count gave President Obama a wide 332 to 206 margin over Romney. 270 electoral college votes are needed to win the Presidency. Romney lost New Hampshire’s 4 electoral college votes by a margin of 40,659. Obama won with 368,529 to Romney’s 327,870.

Romney lost Florida’s 29 electoral college votes by a margin of 73,858. Obama won with 4,236,032 to Romney's 4,162,174.

Romney lost Ohio’s 18 electoral college votes by a margin of 103,481. Obama won with 2,697,260 to Romney’s 2,593,779

Romney lost Virginia’s 13 electoral college votes by a margin of 115,910. Obama won with 1,905,528 to Romney’s 1,789,618.

Add the 64 electoral college votes from this switch of 333,908 votes in these four key states to Romney’s 206, remove them from Obama’s 332, and Romney defeats Obama 270 to 268.

Overall, voter turnout was down, from 131 million in 2008 to 122 million in 2012. Obama won 7.6 million fewer votes than he did in 2008, and Romney won 1.3 million fewer than McCain in 2008.

Romney improved his vote total's over McCain's by the slightest amount in three of these four states, but in Ohio, he actually had 81,000 fewer votes than McCain in 2008.

What do these facts tell us?

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012swingstates; battlegroundstates; bushvskerry; calledbattleground; carlrove; elections; electoralcollege; gorevsbush; hopeoverexperience; iamwhoiam; presidency; romney; rove; rovianmath; swingstates
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To: SeekAndFind

Would’ve, should’ve, could’ve...the lazy asses in those states just couldn’t take the time to make their vote count. Now you got 4 more years of O-pression.

21 posted on 11/19/2012 8:07:37 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike ("God only knows it's not what we would choose to do." - Lyric from Us and Them - Pink Floyd)
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To: who knows what evil? all these stories of 'massive turnout' were nonsense..?

The nonsense is people are comparing the vote totals the day after the 2012 election with the final certified vote totals from 2008; then even worse is trying to come up with elaborate "explanations" for a drop in turnout that doesn't exist.

It actually takes upwards of a month in some states to actually count all the ballots and then certify results.

As just ONE example (California is not the only state with uncounted ballots, they're simply the state with the most, and they actually post updates of how many unprocessed ballots they have, which most states do not) California has 1.7 million unprocessed ballots remaining.

Overall turnout will perhaps be lower in 2008, but not by nearly as much as these worthless articles written by imbeciles claim, and likely most of that drop will be in New York and New Jersey, because of Sandy.

22 posted on 11/19/2012 8:08:06 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: SeekAndFind

So Why are republican elites are in panic mode? They started pandering illegals on Nov.7th.

23 posted on 11/19/2012 8:08:38 AM PST by granada
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To: F15Eagle
Don't forget the millions of "Principled Conservatives" who didn't vote "to send a message", or voted third party, also "to send a message".

Misery loves miserable company.

25 posted on 11/19/2012 8:15:34 AM PST by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfus)
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Several months ago, many here proclaimed that they would rather see Hussein re-elected than vote for Romney.

They’re the ones to thank.

27 posted on 11/19/2012 8:18:15 AM PST by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: Redleg Duke
Don't forget the millions of "Principled Conservatives" who didn't vote "to send a message", or voted third party, also "to send a message".

There assuredly were not "millions" of either, though Gary Johnson got over a million votes - most of those are likely just hardcore Libertarians that always vote libertarian. Goode only got a little over 100,000 votes.

It's impossible to quantify those who didn't vote, but based on comparisons to 2008 and 2004, there's little evidence that any conservatives who usually vote did not vote.

28 posted on 11/19/2012 8:20:58 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: txrefugee

Those who were never polled were those McCain voters that didn’t show up. Asking “Republicans why and citing 4 reasons which might apply. That would give US the answer, partricularly those who voted for McCain but didn’t vote this time.

I’ll bet the majority felt “it made no difference” and the 2nd most reason they would cite “Romney was going to win anyway and my vote wasn’t needed”

29 posted on 11/19/2012 8:23:30 AM PST by mosesdapoet ("A voice crying in the wilderness make streight for the way of the Lord")
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To: SeekAndFind

The RNC and DNC made their Consent Decree 30 years ago, in 1982. The agreement in effect gives a carte blanche to the Democrat Party to commit vote fraud in every voting district across America that has, in the language of the Consent Decree, “a substantial proportion of racial or ethnic populations.”

Send this to your Repub congresscritter demanding an explanation; but, don’t expect one.

I’m changing my affiliation to Independent.

30 posted on 11/19/2012 8:24:01 AM PST by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: MrB

Exactly...was JUST gunna say that....the extra votes needed were in the weeds.

31 posted on 11/19/2012 8:24:36 AM PST by matginzac
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To: matginzac

Correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t the very heavy democrat counties/precincts in the battlegrounds delay reporting until the rest of their state had reported?

32 posted on 11/19/2012 8:26:54 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: SeekAndFind

Here is some more interesting information.

LA County went for Obama by one million votes. Cook County(Chicago area)also went for Obama by one million votes!
These two counties are almost two-thirds of Obama’s lead over Romney in the whole country...

33 posted on 11/19/2012 8:27:15 AM PST by CalTexan
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To: txrefugee

Democrats were not in charge of voting in Ohio. I live here.

We have a republican Governor, Secty of State, Treasurer, House, Senate, and Supreme Court. And the Secty of State runs our elections.

So, there are no excuses in Ohio other than extremely, lousy ground game. They thought a ground game was phone calls. Maybe once upon a time, but ground game now is identifying your supporters and getting an early ballot in their hands or driving them to the polls.

Anything else, any other kind of ground game is just a fantasy based on a hope.

34 posted on 11/19/2012 8:27:26 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: duckman
Still don’t understand why Romney didn’t demand a recount.

Exactly. My first reaction was that Romney lost because he was a lousy candidate, even less inspiring than McCain. But there was clear evidence of massive vote cheating in several swing states such as Pennsylvania and Florida. I suspect that if the count had been honest, Romney would have won.

But it's not entirely a matter of either/or. Massive vote cheating was only to be expected, with clinton having set the precedent (not to mention JFK and LBJ) and Obama clearly even worse than clinton. The only way to win was to take a strong stand and win massively, with too many votes to counteract even with vote cheating at the level of 3 or 4 million, which is probably what it all added up to. Just like Palin won the governorship in Alaska against two corrupt machines, Democrat and Republican.

Certainly Romney conceded too soon, and failed to stand up for his base. Even before the polls closed, the cheating was evident. And those districts where Obama won with 99% of the vote, and with more votes than registered voters, hardly could be defended.

I thought Romney ran because he felt ENTITLED to the job as a Mormon Bishop with a planet almost in his hands. But he behaved more as if his job was to cut off the conservative candidates at the knees with lying ads, and then cave in to Obama. Who was NOT a strong candidate. Obama had nothing to recommend him but race, welfare dependency, liberal idiocy, and corrupt cheating at the polls.

35 posted on 11/19/2012 8:28:10 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: txrefugee
And in those swing states, Democrats are in charge of the voting. How convenient.

So did the governors and secretaries of state in Ohio, Florida, and Virginia somehow switch parties in the last couple of weeks without anyone other than you knowing about it? Cuz according to the rest of the world, they are all Republicans.
36 posted on 11/19/2012 8:30:02 AM PST by drjimmy
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To: xzins
All of the predictions about Romney's scorched earth campaign killing his chances with PO'd conservatives could be correct.
All of the predictions about Romney's vanilla policies not being a contrasting record to run on were borne out without a doubt in my opinion. And all of Romney's hesitancy during the campaign itself to stand up and fight might have turned some people off.

Excellent summary, xzins.

I just sincerely hope that the stupid party will not invite Romney back in 2016 for an encore performance because the gop-e loves him.

I'll bet he's already planning his campaign for 2016. It's pre-ordained, donchaknow??

37 posted on 11/19/2012 8:31:19 AM PST by greyfoxx39 (We told you Mitt couldn't win.)
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To: SeekAndFind

He could have won in the absence of massive voter fraud too.

38 posted on 11/19/2012 8:31:48 AM PST by null and void (America - Abducted by Aliens...)
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To: Jgerald

thanks for the “votes needed” correction

anyone looking at helping ANY next GOP pres campaign needs to acknowledge those numbers and plan accordingly, while hoping to preserve the vote margins in all other states; hopefully any such plan would look to exceed the “minimum needed” in the four states used in the model

39 posted on 11/19/2012 8:32:20 AM PST by Wuli
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To: SeekAndFind; kingattax
Question is - could the Acorn gang get hired as election workers in "certain" counties where ballots could be stuffed without anyone noticing? AND, could Obama's 10,000 lawyers on retainer specifically work those target areas insuring that no one is able to spill the beans? AND, would Soros, who said that his one goal is to make sure Obama gets an second term, could he have footed the entire bill for the 10,000 lawyers, Obama's Acorn gang, and any extra walking around money?

Nothing like having a total fraud as President of the United States.

40 posted on 11/19/2012 8:32:45 AM PST by Slyfox
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