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MSNBC host tells Israeli amb. Hamas rockets 'rarely do damage'"response...is disproportional"
KFYI Radio ^ | November 19, 2012 | Sharona Schwartz

Posted on 11/19/2012 10:23:05 AM PST by Ooh-Ah

The host then suggested that because the number of rocket attacks on Israel has dramatically increased since 2009, Israel’s policy has been a "failure"

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() Beyond its military operation targeting the Hamas terrorist infrastructure in Gaza, Israel is invested in an intense media campaign to make sure its side of the story is being heard overseas. But that’s not always easy to do.

In an interview with Israel’s top envoy to the United States on Saturday, MSNBC provided yet another example of how much work Israeli officials face in their effort to pass through the filter of the mainstream media and present their side of the story.

MSNBC’s Mara Schiavocampo began her interview of Israeli Ambassador Michael Oren straightforwardly enough, asking “What would be the trigger for a ground operation? What’s the red line here?”

Oren answered, “You have the equivalent of what would be about 170 million Americans under bomb shelters. If Hamas continues to escalate we will take the necessary and legitimate measures to defend our citizens.”

Schiavocampo’s second question might be considered more controversial, positing the argument that long-range rockets carrying warheads weighing between 20 and 90 kilograms — 46 to 198 pounds — aren’t actually dangerous to human life. She asked:

“Living under the threat of rocket attack is certainly a psychological trauma. But what would you say to those who argue that the rockets are essentially very ineffective, they rarely do damage and that the response from Israelis is disproportional to the threat they’re under.”

Oren answered she might want to pose that question to the three Israelis killed by a rocket in Kiryat Malachi on Thursday (see TheBlaze’s story here and Glenn Beck’s segment looking at media bias and profiling the victims here). Oren suggested Schiavocampo envisage what would happen if Hamas were bombing America. He said:

“Imagine if one rocket had fallen in the United States and not now since the year 2009, our last operation, we’ve had something in the vicinity of 8,000 rockets fall on the State of Israel. That’s more than twice all of the German rockets that fell on London during World War II. And you saw how the British and Americans reacted to that.”

Schiavocampo then posited that because the number of rocket attacks on Israel has dramatically increased since 2009, Israel’s policy has been a “failure.” By way of comparison, she did not attribute the increase in attacks to other possibilities including: Hamas feeling more emboldened since its ideological ally, the Muslim Brotherhood, took control of next-door Egypt or that its ties have only grown stronger with Iran, which provides its long-range Fajr-5 missiles. She asked Oren:

“You mentioned the amount of rocket attacks that have been seen in Israel. In 2009 that number was about 200 and this year it’s been about 700 despite the fact that we’ve been down this road again that Israel has responded with military force in the past. So does this show that Israel ‘s policy towards Gaza has been a failure?”

Oren said that after 12,000 rocket attacks in the past 12 years on Israeli civilians, “We have no option and nor would any other country in the world have an option but to defend our citizens by all necessary and legitimate means.”

Watch the MSNBC interview with Michael Oren here:

http://politics.kfyi.com/cc-common/mainheadlines3.html?feed=104707&article=10583924

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: gaza; hamas; ignorantmedia; israel; leftwingnewswhore; msnbc; schiavocampo
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To: Ooh-Ah

I would love to see the Mossad unleashed on the Liberal , Israel hating , American Left


51 posted on 11/19/2012 12:13:22 PM PST by LeoWindhorse
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To: Ooh-Ah
Yes. Israel's policy has been a failure.
Hamas and the Arabs of Gaza and West Bank have proven they will never negotiate in good faith and have only genocidal intentions against Jews.
The ONLY policy that will bring peace is the expulsion of the Arabs from the West Bank and Gaza Strip, the annexation of these territories by Israel and their settling by Israelis.
52 posted on 11/19/2012 12:13:41 PM PST by Little Ray (I have VOTED AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: Ooh-Ah

Reporter; “General Kelly isn’t this like trying to kill a fly with a sledgehammer?”

General Kelly:” In my opinion that’s a delightful way to kill a fly.”

The Ambassador should call the talking head a complete fool and walk out of the building.


53 posted on 11/19/2012 12:35:33 PM PST by 4yearlurker (No matter who you elect,the government eventually gets in.)
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To: Ooh-Ah

Using that tortuous reasoning, an ineffective response by Israel would be appropriate.


54 posted on 11/19/2012 12:40:32 PM PST by luvbach1 (The late, great United States)
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To: Ooh-Ah

How many hundred bullets would Mara let an insane neighbor fire randomly at her house, “since they rarely are fatal?”


55 posted on 11/19/2012 12:54:07 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: M Kehoe
Ms. Schiavocampo is stuck on stupid,...

At this late point in the game I'll tell you who is stuck on stupid,

ANY conservativeof ANY stripe from ANYWHERE on this planet that agrees to go on MSNBC for an interview.

Stay away from these vile creatures!

56 posted on 11/19/2012 12:56:00 PM PST by houeto (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: NCLaw441
I have to say that I don’t like questions that begin, “What do you say to those who say/think....” My response would be: “Gather them up and I will address their concerns face to face,” or “Just who are those who say/think this? Are you one of them?”

Yes, and I would add, "Can you name their names and quote them? Or are you just inventing them to suit your own narrative?"

I have zero respect for these so-called "reporters" from American Pravda. Throw their lies and biases straight back in their lying faces.

57 posted on 11/19/2012 12:58:04 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: raybbr

“Maria Schiavocampo - fulfills some need to the network or is another Affirmative Action Hero.”

I’d say she is an Affirmative Action Retard.


58 posted on 11/19/2012 1:06:02 PM PST by Dogbert41 (What now?)
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To: albionin
According to the code of ethics I adhere to, The initiator of force, nor anyone else, gets to decide what level of force that the defender gets to use. We didn’t win world war II by a proportional response to the Japanese and the Germans. We blew the S&(t out of them until they no longer had any interest in fighting us and that is exactly what the Israelis will have to do.

Thank you. How stupid can these people be?

You're walking down the sidewalk with your wife and young son. Some thug-assed punk walks up and punches your wife and slaps your son to the ground. According to this stupidbitch you're supposed to stop and think of a 'proportional response'?!?

Nope. The thug just made a lethal error in judgement. Exact same code of ethics apply here.

59 posted on 11/19/2012 1:07:36 PM PST by houeto (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Ooh-Ah

Hmmm,,, I’m gonna go out on a limb here and guess that twenty-something twit Mara Schiavocampo has never experienced the pleasure of being under a 122mm rocket attack.


60 posted on 11/19/2012 1:07:36 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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Mara Schiavocampo . . .

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61 posted on 11/19/2012 1:11:27 PM PST by deks ("...the battle...liberty against the overreach of the federal government" Ken Cuccinelli)
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To: Gaffer

62 posted on 11/19/2012 1:12:06 PM PST by EEGator
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To: Ooh-Ah
Enough, enough a long time ago, destroy and empty out and eradicate The Gaza Strip. They are not happy, they are not going to be happy, they have and refuse to have any decent culture, quit playing games, they are a cancer on humanity, scrape em’ off the face of the earth. Life is far to precious and short to let “Jerks” like arrafat, nassarella, amanutjob and abbas call the shots. They are the Mid-East manisfestation of jesse jackson, al not-so-sharpton, calypso louie and that phony wright. They live and breathe and get rich on the continuing plight of others.
63 posted on 11/19/2012 1:48:44 PM PST by Gertie
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To: DemforBush

You would lose them the moment you mentioned “V-1 rockets”. Liberals either don’t know history beyond Veteran Day TV specials or are taught history by other draft dodging liberals.


64 posted on 11/19/2012 2:44:42 PM PST by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: Ooh-Ah

Superior accuracy is not "disproportionate response".

Nor, in this case, is overwhelming force -- up to and including total annihilation...

65 posted on 11/19/2012 4:08:34 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: Ooh-Ah

The problem is that Israel has not been allowed to be disproportional enough. A seriously good, thoroughly disproportional response along with shutting off all aid would end this crap for once and for all.


66 posted on 11/19/2012 6:14:37 PM PST by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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To: Ooh-Ah

The response to this type question should always be “Who says that?”


67 posted on 11/19/2012 7:55:00 PM PST by Terry Mross (I haven't watched the news since the election. Someone ping me if anything big happens.)
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To: Ooh-Ah

Iran ‘steals surface-to-air missiles from Libya’ , The Telegraph ^ | 9/28/2011 | Con Coughlin Posted on 09/28/2011 4:30:34 PM PDT by mojito


68 posted on 11/19/2012 8:13:34 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Ooh-Ah

If I threw fireworks on her property, would it be OK, because these rarely do serious damage. Or do you think she would call for a ground invasion with police?


69 posted on 11/19/2012 9:10:59 PM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: Ooh-Ah

I HATE the MSM.

Yup...HATE.

Can I say that word?


70 posted on 11/20/2012 6:19:22 AM PST by left that other site (Worry is the Darkroom that Develops Negatives.)
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To: Ooh-Ah

hamas is throwing everything they can muster over to israel... israel is returning less than 10 % of what they have... disproportional? i think not.

send it all israel and eliminate the need for these reporters to continue their disproportional claims.

t


71 posted on 11/21/2012 5:42:58 AM PST by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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