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Obama, Suu Kyi And The Forbidden Kiss ("grave breach of custom")
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Posted on 11/19/2012 2:07:02 PM PST by Arthurio

As Barack Obama appeared in the home of Myanmar pro-democracy activist Aung San Suu Kyi in Yangon, the U.S. president planted a platonic, but very affectionate, kiss on her cheek (to which she appeared to slightly recoil in embarrassment). This act has surprisingly elicited little or no comment in the global press thus far – quite unusual since public displays of affection represent a grave breach of custom in virtually all Asian countries.

Obama likely did not mean to offend his Burmese hosts, however, as a well-travelled man of the world, he must have known that a kiss – especially one between a man and a woman who are not married; and one delivered to the most famous woman in Southeast Asia – violates local etiquette.-snip-

With respect to Suu Kyi’s apparent ‘backing away’ from Obama’s kiss, another expert on Burma, Frederic K. Lehman, Professor Emeritus at the University of Illinois, speculated: “if, indeed, she did back away, possibly it is a personal thing with her and maybe she may have felt it was not to be done in a Burmese context-- she is, after all, a politician and sensitive to how her constituents may feel about her behavior.”

Though the kiss has elicited no diplomatic incidents, Obama did make at least one other blunder during his informal meeting with Suu Kyi.

The Associated Press reported that Obama repeatedly mispronounced her name, though Suu Kyi politely refrained from correcting him.

The president called the Nobel laureate “Aung Yan Suu Kyi,” versus the correct pronunciation: “Ahng Sahn Soo Chee.”

Nile Gardiner, a Washington-based foreign affairs analyst for the Daily Telegraph, commented: “It is rather embarrassing, as well as sad, that the leader of the free world can’t even pronounce the name of the most famous human rights activist on the planet.”

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1 posted on 11/19/2012 2:07:07 PM PST by Arthurio
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To: Arthurio

IDIOT.


2 posted on 11/19/2012 2:08:48 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: Arthurio

Obamagabe is perhaps the most crudest president we’ve ever had. He’s a complete diplomatic moron.


3 posted on 11/19/2012 2:09:15 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church shows up at your funeral)
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To: Arthurio
ABC News reporter heard on the radio today (emphasis in the original audio):

"Aung Saung Suu Kyi, who EARNED her Nobel Peace Prize....."

LOL!

4 posted on 11/19/2012 2:09:46 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (0BAMA CHOSE to watch a MUSLIM SNUFF FILM rather than a HEROIC AMERICAN RESCUE FILM)
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To: Arthurio

Aw, dag; dude was just vending his heterosexual street creds.


5 posted on 11/19/2012 2:11:12 PM PST by Albion Wilde ("Not only no, but HELL NO we will NOT moderate our stance."-- Jim Robinson)
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To: SkyDancer

Too bad it was not in some wild islamic nation.


6 posted on 11/19/2012 2:11:18 PM PST by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: Arthurio
. . . public displays of affection represent a grave breach of custom in virtually all Asian countries.

Try it in certain Muslim countries and you could wake up with your head missing.

BO, of all people, ought to know that, growing up in Indonesia.

7 posted on 11/19/2012 2:12:10 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: onyx

No No you have it all wrong Barack Hussein is a genius. According to the media it was George W. Bush who was an idiot. I miss George W. every time I hear Obozo speak it’s like a small child talking to grandparents all generalities no substance.


8 posted on 11/19/2012 2:12:42 PM PST by cquiggy
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To: Mouton

Too bad it was not in some wild islamic nation.

then Obama would be all over a guy


9 posted on 11/19/2012 2:13:00 PM PST by molson209
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To: Arthurio

what a complete idiot.


10 posted on 11/19/2012 2:13:19 PM PST by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis
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To: SkyDancer

Obama never MEANS to offend - but he goes right ahead and does it anyway. After all, he will be excused for just about anything, because, you know, he is “black” and the world gives a pass to the “oppressed black folk” of America. America treated black folks so shamefully, doncha know, and they can be “bad as they wanta be”.

And this guy is “likeable”?


11 posted on 11/19/2012 2:14:40 PM PST by alloysteel (Bronco Bama - the cowboy who whooped up and widened the stampede.)
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To: Arthurio

Will the lapdog media hound Obama about making this unforgivable gaffe??


13 posted on 11/19/2012 2:15:40 PM PST by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: Arthurio

The boy did it on Purpose, not near as
stupid as he acts.


14 posted on 11/19/2012 2:17:09 PM PST by easternsky
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To: skeeter
Gaffe, gaffe, GAFFE.

No. It's not a "gaffe". "Gaffe" has no objective meaning; "gaffe" exists only in the mind of Big Media. Bath-house Barry will never commit a "gaffe", no matter how boorish, inept, or stupid his behaviour, because Big Media will never call it a "gaffe".

15 posted on 11/19/2012 2:17:46 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Arthurio

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNRXGRFJdDY If Ubama was a (R) this would be national news.


16 posted on 11/19/2012 2:18:20 PM PST by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals crazy!)
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To: Arthurio

That doesn’t look like a diplomatic kiss...that looks more like he was rounding first, headed for second base.


17 posted on 11/19/2012 2:19:59 PM PST by Tex-Con-Man (<-------currently working through post-election anger issues.)
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To: Arthurio
Any other President would take care to learn the proper protocol when visiting a foreign country--but Obama is so brilliant he doesn't need to bother with that.

Obama probably thinks the name of the most famous human rights advocate on the planet is pronounced "Jesse Jackson" or "Jimmy Carter."

18 posted on 11/19/2012 2:20:05 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Arthurio

The King can do no wrong.


19 posted on 11/19/2012 2:20:37 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: Arthurio

My Gosh....Has he been hanging out with Bill Clinton??


20 posted on 11/19/2012 2:20:37 PM PST by ExCTCitizen (More Republicans stayed home then the margin of victory of O's Win...)
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To: Arthurio

What was his thought process for even doing this? What could he think he was going to gain from this?


21 posted on 11/19/2012 2:20:42 PM PST by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11 0bie don' t eatl my dog!)
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To: easternsky

The boy did it on Purpose, not near as
stupid as he acts.

needs to distract the attention away from the HOMELAND


22 posted on 11/19/2012 2:20:42 PM PST by molson209
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To: Verginius Rufus
Any other President would take care to learn the proper protocol when visiting a foreign country--but Obama is so brilliant he doesn't need to bother with that.

He can't be bothered with attending his intelligence briefings - why should he be concerned about being briefed on proper protocol when visiting another country?

23 posted on 11/19/2012 2:24:44 PM PST by GreenHornet
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To: Arthurio

I’m going to go against the grain of comments here.

When a foreign person comes to America, we are expected to go out of our way to make allowances for them and not expect them to understand or follow our customs. We’re never supposed to be offended if they follow their customs rather than ours. That’s part of being PC and not eurocentric or ethnocentric.

When an American goes overseas, we are expected to bone up in advance on local customs so we can understand and follow them. We’re supposed to be terribly embarassed if we fall back, even accidentally, into our own way of doing things. That’s part of being PC and not eurocentric or ethnocentric.

What I don’t understand is why only Europeans and particularly Americans have this standard applied. Why don’t Burmese have to learn to not be asiacentric or ethnocentric?


24 posted on 11/19/2012 2:25:10 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Arthurio

I wonder if you guys are all going the wrong way with this! Doesn’t he come from Chicago? Didn’t you see this in the Godfather?


25 posted on 11/19/2012 2:26:26 PM PST by the_Watchman
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To: alloysteel
Obama never MEANS to offend - but he goes right ahead and does it anyway.

Kinda like Caligula and his Senate? Yes I was watching the History Channel the other night. IMHO this was intentional....

26 posted on 11/19/2012 2:31:57 PM PST by taildragger (( Tighten the 5 point harness and brace for Impact Freepers, ya know it's coming..... ))
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To: onyx

He might have done more damage to the pro-democracy movement in Burma by just visiting and then he does that??

The junta must be laughing about this!


27 posted on 11/19/2012 2:34:25 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: cquiggy

A genius who just discredited the Burmese pro-demoocracy movement in Burma.


28 posted on 11/19/2012 2:36:54 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Arthurio
I was just gonna say Barry Soetero is hot for Asian chicks until I found this picture of him and Merkel.

Must be an older woman thing.


29 posted on 11/19/2012 2:37:50 PM PST by Rebelbase
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To: Arthurio

IMNSHO, that kiss was demeaning to Suu Kyi. The subtext is: “You’re not a serious human rights activist and Nobel Peace prize winner; you’re just a cute little piece of fluff, and I’ll just plant one on your cheek to show that to the world”.


30 posted on 11/19/2012 2:38:43 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Sherman Logan
We’re supposed to be terribly embarassed if we fall back, even accidentally, into our own way of doing things.

Generally here in the USA men in professional situations don't go around kissing women on the cheek that they have never met before. In most circumstances that would be seen as awkward at best, and maybe an example of sexual harassment. A handshake is the normal American greeting in formal business situations.

In most situations even in social circumstances in the USA kissing some woman you've never met before is frowned upon. It is particularly a bad idea in biker bars, at rodeos, and when meeting some guy and his wife for the first time.

Perhaps the POTUS thought he was in Thailand in one of those "tourist" neighborhoods, instead of meeting a world renowned leader.

31 posted on 11/19/2012 2:40:12 PM PST by freeandfreezing
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To: GeronL
Part of this crap is about alpha style dominance. When you see Obama with other male politicians, he will put his hands all over them, pat them on the shoulders, and what have you. With the females, he grabs them for unwanted kisses. Here's a recent example of him doing this to Boehner:


32 posted on 11/19/2012 2:40:31 PM PST by Arthurio
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To: freeandfreezing

You are quite correct.

My comments were meant generally with regard to whether foreigners or natives should make the adjustments.

It seems Americans are the ones always expected to adjust, whether they are here or overseas.


33 posted on 11/19/2012 2:42:03 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Arthurio
Knowing how this administration runs, it may have meant something like this.
34 posted on 11/19/2012 2:43:50 PM PST by jmcenanly ("The more corrupt the state, the more laws." Tacitus, Publius Cornelius)
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To: Arthurio
With the females, he grabs them for unwanted kisses. Here's a recent example of him doing this to Boehner

He kissed Boehner??

35 posted on 11/19/2012 2:44:47 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: onyx

When I first saw the photo on Drudge, I thought it was really weird. After all, Obama actually lived in Indonesia. Even if his childhood experience didn’t acquaint him local custom and etiquette, the State Department country experts certainly would try to. It’s not that hard to learn about such things: every tourist guide to SE Asia advises against PDA.

Then it occurred to me. Obama knew exactly what he was doing.

Aung San Suu Kyi is a champion of liberty who opposed tyrants. Obama’s PDA was a public demonstration to put her in her place. There’s nothing more pesky to a tyrant than a genuine champion of liberty.


36 posted on 11/19/2012 2:56:06 PM PST by Skepolitic
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To: freeandfreezing
It is particularly a bad idea in biker bars, at rodeos, and when meeting some guy and his wife for the first time.

Now you tell me.

37 posted on 11/19/2012 3:03:33 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Arthurio
"Ick. His breath smells like Larry Sinclair took a bath in an ash-tray!"


38 posted on 11/19/2012 3:05:41 PM PST by SparkyBass
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To: freeandfreezing
A handshake is the normal American greeting in formal business situations.

And only if the woman extends her hand first.

39 posted on 11/19/2012 3:07:32 PM PST by UnwashedPeasant
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To: Arthurio

After what he did to the Queen of England, Suu Kyi should consider herself lucky.


40 posted on 11/19/2012 3:18:53 PM PST by 762X51
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To: Arthurio

Reggie Love is deeply saddened


41 posted on 11/19/2012 3:25:11 PM PST by radioactivereb ("I'm tryin' to think but nothin' happens!"-Curly Howard)
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To: taildragger

Every thing he does is intentional...its an =in your face, i’ll do as I please anyplace I go. Too bad she didn’t have body guards that take on boorish people like him...I’d pay money to see someone from some other country throw his butt out for insulting them...


42 posted on 11/19/2012 3:39:03 PM PST by goat granny
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To: onyx
If Obama is an idiot then how did he rise to the rank of President of the United States?

This is Obama’s M.O., by breaching “tradition” or “protocol” thus setting a new tone. All these social faux pas are done on purpose, symbolizing either weakness (By his bows) of the US or setting a personal tone of authoritarian by this so called “forbidden kiss”.

I wish we had Republicans who have Obama’s bravado, but sadly most of them are a slang for a female body part.

43 posted on 11/19/2012 3:40:47 PM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: Arthurio

It’s okay, it’s just the Obama Kiss of Death. He gives it to everybody who’s not a fellow dictator. Move along, now.


44 posted on 11/19/2012 3:47:13 PM PST by Argus
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To: Arthurio

Complete and utter bonehead.


45 posted on 11/19/2012 3:51:44 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: the_Watchman
I wonder if you guys are all going the wrong way with this! Doesn’t he come from Chicago? Didn’t you see this in the Godfather?

That's what I thought of too!


46 posted on 11/19/2012 4:03:01 PM PST by arasina (Communism is EVIL. So there.)
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To: Tex-Con-Man

She looks kind of boyish. So perhaps you are correct.


47 posted on 11/19/2012 4:04:32 PM PST by ruesrose (Love is Action!.)
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To: All

On the bright side; his name is S#!t in Burma now.


48 posted on 11/19/2012 4:07:00 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: SparkyBass

As some who deeply respects the bravery and self-sacrifice of Suu Kyi to stand up for human rights against one of the most tyrannical regimes in the world, this is one of the most offensive things Obama has done. And that is saying something.


49 posted on 11/19/2012 4:10:25 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: rollo tomasi
This is Obama’s M.O., by breaching “tradition” or “protocol” thus setting a new tone. All these social faux pas are done on purpose, symbolizing either weakness (By his bows) of the US or setting a personal tone of authoritarian by this so called “forbidden kiss”.

I agree. He follows them up with an episode of supreme smugness. I think it could be a kind of signal to his handlers, some sort of "mission accomplished" thing.

He is going to get away with his dereliction of duty regarding Benghazi because his people have successfully deflected attention to the Petraeus affair. Hillary, shown today with him in Burma, looked like a flabby, grinning goofball. She's getting away with it too.

50 posted on 11/19/2012 4:12:28 PM PST by arasina (Communism is EVIL. So there.)
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