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House reps to Obama: About that UN arms trade treaty? Just say no.
Hotair ^ | 11/18/2012 | Erika Johnsen

Posted on 11/19/2012 2:43:03 PM PST by SeekAndFind

The oh-so-enlightened, globalism-endorsing United Nations has been pushing for more powers to regulate the international weapons-trade scene for ages now, and more specifically, has been pushing for the United States to get on board with a proposed Arms Trade Treaty for months now. After the U.N. negotiations last summer, the U.S. put the issue on the back-burner --- the treaty (rightly) became the target of vociferous criticism from America's pro-gun groups, and even perceived support for such things simply won't do in an election season. But, now that the election is over, certain parties are trying to bring the treaty back to the bargaining table, via Reuters:

Hours after U.S. President Barack Obama was re-elected, the United States backed a U.N. committee’s call on Wednesday to renew debate over a draft international treaty to regulate the $70 billion global conventional arms trade.

U.N. delegates and gun control activists have complained that talks collapsed in July largely because Obama feared attacks from Republican rival Mitt Romney if his administration was seen as supporting the pact, a charge Washington denies.

The month-long talks at U.N. headquarters broke off after the United States – along with Russia and other major arms producers – said it had problems with the draft treaty and asked for more time.

But the U.N. General Assembly’s disarmament committee moved quickly after Obama’s win to approve a resolution calling for a new round of talks March 18-28. It passed with 157 votes in favor, none against and 18 abstentions.

A bipartisan group of almost eighty House representatives are not pleased with the idea of the United Nations gaining authority to stick its nose into the gun trade in rule-of-law-abidin’ bastions of tail-kicking freedom like the United States, and have introduced a resolution that calls on President Obama to decline on signing the Arms trade Treaty (ATT), via The Hill:

“There is considerable cause for alarm regarding the UN’s renewed efforts to forge an Arms Trade Treaty that could trample the constitutional rights of Americans, and could seriously compromise our national security and the security of our allies, whom we will be less able to arm and less quick to defend due to the restrictions placed on us by the ATT,” Kelly said Friday. “My colleagues and I stand committed to fighting this threat to our sovereignty and to standing up for the U.S. Constitution, which we are all sworn to support and defend.” …

The five-page resolution, H.Res. 814, says the treaty would threaten the rights of U.S. gun owners, and rejects the idea that conventional arms trade needs to be regulated equally in the United States and other countries. The resolution says the treaty “places free democracies and totalitarian regimes on a basis of equality, recognizing their equal right to transfer arms, and is thereby dangerous to the security of the United States.”

It says further the treaty could have other consequences, including limiting the right of the United States to offer aid to Taiwan or Israel. And, it argues that the ATT could hurt the U.S. defense manufacturing base, and require costly implementation assistance to other signatory nations.

It’s not exactly a secret that the United Nations is a forum that tends to attract highly progressive, big-government advocates of the gun-control ilk, and I can’t say I’m a fan of allowing a wildly corrupted international body to take on that kind of an enterprise — especially because it’s an enterprise that will largely by paid for, by us. Thanks, but no thanks.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: armstreaty; congress; ununitednations

1 posted on 11/19/2012 2:43:12 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

It is high risk for Obama and Clinton to oppose any provision of the Constitution they are sworn to uphold and defend. If they do not believe in the Constitution they have lied by taking the oath.


2 posted on 11/19/2012 2:57:22 PM PST by Rapscallion ( OBAMA: You own it now. See if you can govern it.)
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To: SeekAndFind
House reps to Obama: About that UN arms trade treaty? Just say no.

Unfortunately the House reps are not involved in ratifying treaties.
That is the business of our democrat (socialist)controlled Senate. - tom

3 posted on 11/19/2012 3:04:21 PM PST by Capt. Tom
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To: SeekAndFind

House Republicans think it’s going to be that easy?

Obama and Democrats to House Republicans: “LOL!”


4 posted on 11/19/2012 3:04:43 PM PST by wastedyears (I don't want to live on this planet anymore.)
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To: wastedyears

Back when we had Presidents, they took into consideration the foundation of our republic, the people, as expressed by their representatives.


5 posted on 11/19/2012 3:16:35 PM PST by Jacquerie ("How few were left who had seen the republic!" - Tacitus, The Annals)
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To: Jacquerie

Impeach the little turd.


6 posted on 11/19/2012 3:43:21 PM PST by DownInFlames
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To: SeekAndFind

Obama: “I fling boogers at your Sense of the House Resolution. I f*rt in your general direction.”


7 posted on 11/19/2012 3:49:07 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: SeekAndFind
A gun shop owner in El Cajon, CA opined that the UN Treaty would have the effect of law between the time it is signed by our "ambassador" and the time the Senate votes to ratify or reject it. Harry Reid can keep the vote off the floor. That makes it de facto law until the Senate acts.
8 posted on 11/19/2012 4:04:56 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: Myrddin

Treaties don’t become law unless they are ratified by 2/3rds of the Senate.


9 posted on 11/19/2012 4:28:23 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: SeekAndFind
My bet (unfortunately) Congress passes and Obama signs it.

I hope I'm very wrong, but I fear this nation's 'goose is cooked.'

10 posted on 11/19/2012 4:52:19 PM PST by Ron C.
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To: SeekAndFind

1) Treaties do not override the U.S. Constitution.

2) Treaties cannot amend the Constitution.


11 posted on 11/19/2012 5:07:14 PM PST by maddog55 (OBAMA: The result 60,382,105 complete idiots.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
Senate treaty process

Note the standard is "2/3rds of the Senators PRESENT". Dirty Harry could easily pull off something that drives the Republicans off the floor in protest, then immediately call for a ratification vote with only Democrats on the floor. The standard is not 2/3rds of the members of the Senate.

Again, notice the Senate does not ratify the treaty. It approves a "resolution of ratification". Read the details at the link. It is from the U.S. Senate website.

12 posted on 11/19/2012 5:53:29 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: Myrddin

“Dirty Harry could easily pull off something that drives the Republicans off the floor in protest,”

Thats not going to happen and rest assured for that vote everyone will be PRESENT.


13 posted on 11/20/2012 7:43:25 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Myrddin

“Dirty Harry could easily pull off something that drives the Republicans off the floor in protest,”

Thats not going to happen and rest assured for that vote everyone will be PRESENT.


14 posted on 11/20/2012 7:43:25 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
I ceased resting assured a long time ago. The criminals running the government are happy to chip away at our freedoms any time they can.
15 posted on 11/20/2012 10:19:26 AM PST by Myrddin
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