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Col West Concedes FL D18 Seat On FOX & Friends
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Posted on 11/20/2012 3:34:29 AM PST by clifcrds

Just watched FOX & Friends and Col Allen West was on live and stated that he will no longer fight for the FL D18 seat. (paraphrasing) He stated that even though they found problems with the way the vote count was handled he said it is not about him but is about what is best for the people of FL D18 so he conceds the seat to Pat Murphy.

I have a feeling we have not seen the last of Col West. Thanks for your service to our country Col West.


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1 posted on 11/20/2012 3:34:34 AM PST by clifcrds
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To: clifcrds

The writing is on the wall....Liberal Judges won’t address Democrat Election Fraud, and no matter how many Appeals you make (at very expensive cost of Legal fees), you will ALWAYS run into ONE or MORE Liberal Judges, protecting the Socialist Agenda.


2 posted on 11/20/2012 3:46:52 AM PST by traditional1 (Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: clifcrds

Breaks my heart. I don’t dislike democrats. I hate them.


3 posted on 11/20/2012 3:54:21 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: clifcrds

Ah! Another victory for the proletariat over the bourgeoisie!! Marxism marches on!


4 posted on 11/20/2012 3:55:05 AM PST by mc5cents (trai)
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To: clifcrds
If the GOP won't fight for him, why should he? I'm done with the Republican Party and even conservative talk radio, for now. For the past year we heard that "this is the most important election of our lifetime", "this election will determine what our nation will be like the next 40 years", "if Obama is re-elected, there may never be another Presidential election", blah blah blah. Then, after Obama's elected, it's back to business like nothing ever happened.

Sorry, but I took what they said quite seriously. I DO believe our nation will be turned into a 3rd world $hithole now that Obama's re-elected. My engineering career depended on this election (I'm a Geotechnical Engineer, with a Petroleum Engineering degree, put out of work by the lack of construction in this country and Obama closing down domestic drilling).

That said, the people of the country spoke loud and clear- WE WANT FREE STUFF. I notice the GOP isn't fighting voter fraud (where were those vaunted Green Berets countering Obama's Black Panthers in Philly?), why should I?

Sean Hannity's been on the "Stop Obama, Stop Reid, Stop Pelosi Express" for 2 years, with absolutely nothing to show for it....then he goes on the day after "the most important election of our lifetimes" like it's nothing....except to go on TV with his "good friends" Juan Williams and Bob Beckel.

Dick Morris draws a line in the sand, saying Romney will win in a landslide....the day after Obama kicks Romney's ass, he's talking like the election never happened, "what we're supposed to do now that Obama's re-elected". No, Dick, there has to be accountability.

The left and Democrats may be "good friends" to GOP politicians and talk show hosts...but they're NOT MY FRIENDS. They're THE ENEMY. They're the people who drove our economy into the ground. They try to get as many of our troops crippled and killed with their ridiculous Rules of Engagement just so they'll need the Government-run VA when they get home, They let poor, uneducated immigrants into our country so they can replace the votes of the Democrats who've been birth-controlled, aborted, and/or gayed out of existence...

....and the GOP wants to be their "good friends from across the aisle"....

5 posted on 11/20/2012 3:56:57 AM PST by MuttTheHoople (Pray for Joe Biden- Proverbs 29:9)
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To: clifcrds

I predict West will be back to challenge Murphy in 2014.


6 posted on 11/20/2012 3:57:49 AM PST by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: ilovesarah2012

a BIG FAT DITTO here!!!!


7 posted on 11/20/2012 3:59:07 AM PST by a real Sheila (R.I.P AMERICA 1776 - 2012)
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To: clifcrds

Wonder if he’d be interested in heading a new party. I’ve concluded that the GOP is hopeless-still establishment and controlled by “experts” who foolishly believe that if we also put people into victim groups and pander to them they will vote GOP.

We need a new party based on ideas, principled conservative ideas, not pandering. I firmly believe that someone like West as a figurehead of a new party could start a snowball-effect of defections from the GOP. Or not(maybe I’m delusional)


8 posted on 11/20/2012 4:00:15 AM PST by almcbean
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To: MuttTheHoople

You really should be mad at the dumba** voters - not those who fought to win this election. Yeah, they all accepted the defeat as though it was just another election.

I don’t like my country right now. It is going to take me a while to get over this fraud and the voters who hoisted it upon us.


9 posted on 11/20/2012 4:01:55 AM PST by Catsrus
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To: MuttTheHoople

Now that is a great comment. Thank you


10 posted on 11/20/2012 4:03:21 AM PST by combat_boots (I lost my tagline somewhere......)
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To: MuttTheHoople

I agree with all that you said.
I cannot even begin to describe the absolute frustration I’ve had with the people you mentioned, acting like nothing TERRIBLE has happened with the re-election of Obama after getting us “all jacked up.”

My new mission now is to figure out how to get access to some of the “free stuff” paid for by my hard work.

I will also be hoarding guns and ammo.


11 posted on 11/20/2012 4:03:26 AM PST by a real Sheila (R.I.P AMERICA 1776 - 2012)
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To: MuttTheHoople

No. 5 is about the best post I have seen in quite a while.


12 posted on 11/20/2012 4:09:11 AM PST by TheLawyerFormerlyKnownAsAl
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To: ilovesarah2012

Democrats are communists, and communists are the enemy of America.


13 posted on 11/20/2012 4:09:48 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: clifcrds

West, to whom I donated $, just pulled a Coleman. He’s history.


14 posted on 11/20/2012 4:11:05 AM PST by TheLawyerFormerlyKnownAsAl
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

Why should he? I wouldn’t want to represent those people. I just couldn’t. With all the fraud that went on, why beat your head against a brick wall? Let them have their drunken Murphy - after all he’s a member of the party of Santa Claus. That’s all voters seem to want any more. The dumb GOP shouldn’t have run McCain in 2008 -he was one horrible candidate. But, hey you know - it was his turn.

I’m just so angry I don’t know what more to say - except I’m not a Republican any more.


15 posted on 11/20/2012 4:12:13 AM PST by Catsrus
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To: a real Sheila
My new mission now is to figure out how to get access to some of the “free stuff” paid for by my hard work.

I'm so disgusted, I'm looking into that too.

16 posted on 11/20/2012 4:13:35 AM PST by SMM48
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To: TheLawyerFormerlyKnownAsAl

He didn’t pull a Coleman. He knows darned good and well there was fraud, but its very expensive to keep fighting when the courts are against you - and the governor and SOS probably won’t do much to help either. Why would he want to represent a district that treated him so badly? I know I wouldn’t.


17 posted on 11/20/2012 4:14:05 AM PST by Catsrus
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To: a real Sheila
"My new mission now is to figure out how to get access to some of the “free stuff” paid for by my hard work."

'Fraid I agree, but if you have a decent, above the table, documented income, it is awfully hard to get those bennies that are so lavished on the illegals and Democrat welfare classes.

18 posted on 11/20/2012 4:14:40 AM PST by Truth29
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To: clifcrds

For two weeks since Election Day, we have been working to ensure every vote is counted accurately and fairly. We have made progress towards that goal, thanks to the dedication of our supporters and their unrelenting efforts to protect the integrity of the democratic process. While many questions remain unanswered, today I am announcing that I will take no further action to contest the outcome of this election.

While there are certainly still inaccuracies in the results and the actions of the St. Lucie County and Palm Beach County Supervisors of Elections rightly raise questions in my mind and for many voters, after much analysis and yesterday’s recount in St. Lucie County, our legal team does not believe there are enough over-counted, undercounted or fraudulent votes to change the outcome of the election.

While a contest of the election results might have changed the vote totals, we do not have evidence that the outcome would change. Given the extremely high evidentiary hurdles involved in a successful challenge, I will not ask my generous supporters to help fund a drawn-out, expensive legal effort with little chance of success. Therefore, we will not contest the certification or challenge the seating of Congressman-Elect Murphy.

Serving the people in the House of Representatives has been among the highest honors of my life, but this seat does not belong to me, or for that matter, to any individual. It belongs to the people. I want to congratulate my opponent, Patrick Murphy, as the new Congressman from 18th Congressional District. I pray he will serve his constituents with honor and integrity, and put the interests of our nation before his own.

I must thank my wife Angela, and my daughters Aubrey and Austen for their support, patience, understanding and most of all, love. These are three of the toughest women I know. They have sent me off to defend our nation overseas at war and to Capitol Hill to serve our nation in the House of Representatives. They have all handled the challenges of these last few months, and the last many years, with amazing grace. I know they will be my side for whatever is our next chapter.

I must also thank my congressional and campaign staff for their service, and most importantly, I must thank you and our other tremendous supporters who provided their time and money to power our campaign. I am humbled by the dedication and perseverance of our supporters, and their commitment to a free and prosperous America. I cannot thank them enough for all they have done for our campaign, but most importantly, what they have done, and will continue to do for our country. None of us should let the outcome discourage us. We should only redouble our resolve.

Above all, I want to thank God for his blessings, and for blessing me with the opportunity to serve.

Only God knows what is in store for each of us. I have dedicated my life to serving this nation, and the results of this election will not change my purpose. Just as I did in the deserts of Iraq and Afghanistan, just as I did on Capitol Hill, I will continue to fight for our Republic.

Our nation will not overcome our challenges overnight ,and the road ahead for each one of us will not be easy. But this nation would never have become that shining beacon of light if our founders had chosen the easy path 236 years ago. We all must proudly continue their legacy.

God bless you and God bless these United States of America.

Steadfast and Loyal,

Allen B. West


19 posted on 11/20/2012 4:16:03 AM PST by dontreadthis
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To: clifcrds

At least he fought it the best he could, that is all that matters.


20 posted on 11/20/2012 4:16:57 AM PST by Eye of Unk (A Civil Cold War in America is here, its already been declared.)
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To: Catsrus

Everyone should be changing their registration from Republican to Independent as the opportunity arises...


21 posted on 11/20/2012 4:21:37 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Catsrus
...but its very expensive to keep fighting when the courts are against you - and the governor and SOS probably won’t do much to help either.

This is the problem. The courts generally won't touch an election fraud case. We keep putting our faith in a system that is faithless. This is the third theft that is as blatant as they come that I can remember. There was the Rossi-Gregoire theft in WA state, then Coleman-Franken, now this. The message is clear: don't expect a fair shake from the courts.

Trouble is, where do we turn for justice? Where do you go for political representation when the elections are rigged? Where do you go for justice when the courts are corrupt? Where do you go from protection when the police are crooked? We've been down this road before. The patriots back in 1775 suffered injustice after injustice until they couldn't take it anymore and started shooting at people on a bridge in Concord. Are we going down the same road again? Just wondering.

22 posted on 11/20/2012 4:23:30 AM PST by chimera
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To: clifcrds; INVAR

INVAR’s words:


We need to think outside the box of normalcy that we continue to confine ourselves to.

Marxists control the government, the courts, the media and the schools. Do some research - ELECTIONS and ‘turning out the base’ is NOT going to EVER remove a Marxist from power.

Never.

We suffered a coup - and it BAFFLES me that American Conservatives CONTINUE to pretend it’s just another election we lost to a liberal Democrat.

If that’s the case, you DON’T GET IT, you don’t understand what happened in 2008 that made 2012 inevitable and will make 2016, 2020 and the foreseeable future an entrenched Communistic tyranny of ruination by design.

I said Cook County went national back in 2009. You cannot defeat the machine by playing by THEIR rules that arbitrarily change to benefit themselves (Tuesday at the RNC this year anyone?).

The cabal/Ruling Class Regime has played for keeps, there is NO WAY the ballot box has any voice or value any longer. Cognitive dissonance will keep most under the vain hope it still is, because to accept the reality is too much for a weak and lukewarm people to bear.

Understand what time it is. It is time to think past today - return to God in repentance - and draw the line on what is left of your liberty that is GOD-GIVEN and be prepared to defend it by any and all means.

This regime will attempt to regulate us, fine us and starve us into submission. If that does not work to their satisfaction - there is the WACO treatment on tap. If you do not believe that - you are not paying attention and have not understood history under Marxists.

It’s Red Dawn and instead of enemy paratroopers - they simply created the atmosphere and used the machine to get themselves into power.

But the end desire and result by the regime is the same as in that movie. You do not negotiate with, compromise with or play pretend elections with those who are about the business of stripping you of your right to worship God, your gifted liberty and make you a slave who worships the state.

That goes for playing along with the GOP-e Ruling Class who know where the power is going to lie under the Obama regime, and are doing what they are to ensure they can share in it.

We are under enemy occupation.


23 posted on 11/20/2012 4:24:48 AM PST by Lazamataz (Mankind must be extinguished. We are a pox on the universe.)
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To: TheLawyerFormerlyKnownAsAl

I have to beg to differ. West is the only one that kept looking for the truth. Unfortunetly, have you heard any assistance from the party? Nope! They send Reince Preebus down there to “show support”. What in God’s name is that suppose to mean?
West fought the good fight, and for the reasons that seem to be obvious to us he lost. He is a good man that doesn’t give up, but he knows that this fight is over.
Another race that seemed interesting to me was the DWS race. Karen Harrington was within 5 points(her paid polling) and she lost in a worse shellacking than the first time she ran against her. DWS wasn’t even campaigning down there. The money spent on that race was insane for that seat.
Face it. Good people are going to be clobbered by the “Machine” .
Not West or Karrington’s fault. GOP, well they suck.


24 posted on 11/20/2012 4:28:11 AM PST by marygam (I have extra ducktape for anyone who needs to wrap their head.)
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To: who knows what evil?
Everyone should be changing their registration from Republican to Independent as the opportunity arises...

And then switch back to Republican just in time for the caucus/primary season. It would confuse those Democrats who become temporary Republicans at that time, might help reduce the damnably annoying constant phone calls from "conservative organizations" that registered Republicans are bedeviled with, and would certainly make a person that most sought-after of all voters: the oh-so-precious "independent."

Mr. niteowl77

25 posted on 11/20/2012 4:33:45 AM PST by niteowl77 (Getting stuck with other peoples' just desserts good and hard for over 50 years.)
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To: MuttTheHoople
I'm done with the Republican Party and even conservative talk radio, for now.

I'm with ya - I watched Fox and listened to Rush and Hannity for a couple of days after the election and realized it's all just entertainment / political theatre and thats about it. There's no fighting back, no challenging of the straw men or positions on the Sunday shows by those who constantly are invited back to appear, no balls or conviction, just entertainment.

Say one thing about the Libtards like Special Ed, Madcow, and the Rev - they know how to forcefully defend their positions, no matter how wrong they are. And, they're not afraid to offend the other side - until I see the same conviction and fortitude in the "entertainment conservatives" - I'm done with them and will catch up with past episodes of The Office and Seinfeld.

26 posted on 11/20/2012 4:36:52 AM PST by capydick (''Life's tough.......it's even tougher if you're stupid.'')
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To: MuttTheHoople

“Democrats who’ve been birth-controlled, aborted, and/or gayed out of existence.”

Cheers, you nailed it there my friend!


27 posted on 11/20/2012 4:38:47 AM PST by V_TWIN (obama=where there's smoke, there's mirrors)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

He is from Georgia, and I wouldn’t be surprised to see him move back there in a more reasonable district.


28 posted on 11/20/2012 4:41:16 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright ("WTF?: How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost....Again")
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To: clifcrds; deport; smoothsailing; SWAMPSNIPER; machogirl; manc; Red Steel
Just watched FOX & Friends and Col Allen West was on live and stated that he will no longer fight for the FL D18 seat. (paraphrasing)

PINGing

29 posted on 11/20/2012 4:41:35 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: traditional1; JulieRNR21; kinganamort; katherineisgreat; floriduh voter; summer; Goldwater Girl; ...
FReeper traditional1 wrote:
"The writing is on the wall....Liberal Judges won’t address Democrat Election Fraud"

Exactly so. Which is why the left is so quick to go to war to get their judicial moles installed.

This outcome does not surprise me. Nor have we seen the last of it. To the contrary, for the left it works so well, expect it to increase in both scope and brazenness.

Florida Freeper


30 posted on 11/20/2012 4:41:41 AM PST by Joe Brower (The "American People" are no longer capable of self-governance.)
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To: MuttTheHoople

>> and even conservative talk radio, for now.

Not a Levin listener?


31 posted on 11/20/2012 4:41:59 AM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: clifcrds
I will never set foot in Florida again. I have not been there since 2008 and I will probably never go there again. Sad really... beautiful state and most of the people are very nice... but they do not care about the rest of the country or they would fix the corruption and organized crime in their election process.

LLS

32 posted on 11/20/2012 4:42:05 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (I AM JOHN GALT)
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To: smoothsailing

FYI


33 posted on 11/20/2012 4:57:04 AM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: dontreadthis
Well Allen West asked for a recount of the early votes and he got what he asked and the count did not materially change.

Did anyone ever explain what was in those boxes that were carried in in the middle of the count on Saturday???

34 posted on 11/20/2012 5:02:03 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: MuttTheHoople
All of us guys that grew up generating testosterone and using it, understand the principle of being pissed off or pissing someone else off and having an after-school fight ... in front of all the girls.

We know you get to a point and something violently one on one must be done ... and it was done !!
Afterwards, more often than not, the two guys were sort'a buddies and whatever the problem was got corrected.


I remember a commercial that ran back in the '60's showing two old men ... the camera on one .. then the other ... and they were breathing hard apparently climbing a hill.

You didn't see all this untill they reached the top of a hill.

Then they put their suit coats down on the ground behind them and strated trading punches.

A couple of 50/60 year old men, weakly but determinedly throwing punches at each other.

NOW the voice over says ..

"Isn't this the way wars should be fought?"

I'm no dove, but I DO believe world problems should be dealt with immediately and with determination.

Even here in the US ... we need a leader to reclaim our nation.

35 posted on 11/20/2012 5:06:08 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: capydick

I’m done with the Republican Party and even conservative talk radio, for now.
I’m with ya - I watched Fox and listened to Rush...
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I used to go out of the way to listen to Rush.
When he first went National, he was a fire breather, looking for change.
I think he first ‘changed’ when he got married(Marta?) - some of the fire seemed to be missing after that and I lost a lot of ‘respect’ for him over the oxy thing....
Not that he was ‘human’ and could get caught up in it but when he wasn’t ‘pushing R values’ he managed to spend a lot of time on Strawberry and Steve Howe’s case ....

Never did like Hannity - too wrapped up in the Colmes thing, then he came across as ‘smarmy’....Wouldn’t walk across the street to see O’Reilly in person much less dial him up or get up and change channels.
Didn’t trust Morris from the gitgo...these R’s/RINO’s...think it is a ‘victory’ when people like Morris blow smoke up where the sun don’t shine - Could only imagine the ‘fawning’ if Carvell would ‘supposedly’ turn.

Never was really much of a Coulter fan - didn’t really think a ‘good’ conservative would be all that impressed with the likes of Torrecelli etc...


36 posted on 11/20/2012 5:07:07 AM PST by xrmusn (6/98 "Hope in one hand and $hiite in the other and see which fills up first".)
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To: clifcrds
yeah you have.In 2012, the Democrats learned how to get rid of those who were a thorn in their side and that is through vote fraud. However, as Limbaugh used to say, the dirty little secret is that the Republican Party also had a hand in his removal. How? They redrew his district thus giving the Democrats ample opportunity to commit fraud. And last but not least, where were the Republican Elected officials when Col. West was waging his battle?I will gurantee you that if what happened to Col. West had happened to a Democrat with a Democrat Governor and a Democrat Secretaty of State,they would be screaming so loud that they could be heard on Pluto.

Hopefully this time the people will get the government they voted for.

37 posted on 11/20/2012 5:15:26 AM PST by sport
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To: ilovesarah2012

They ]The Democrats]and the media taught me to hate during the Clinton regime.


38 posted on 11/20/2012 5:17:33 AM PST by sport
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To: clifcrds

Video

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/11/20/west-gives-up-fight-concedes-in-his-re-election-bid/


39 posted on 11/20/2012 5:20:17 AM PST by Whenifhow
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To: MuttTheHoople

Hannidity is a fraud.It took me about ten times listening to him to decide that. I had a feeling that he was hen he was on t.v. with Colms.I confirmed it to myself by listening to how he inneracts with callers.


40 posted on 11/20/2012 5:23:48 AM PST by sport
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To: MuttTheHoople; a real Sheila

Amen to what YOU said.

Reince Priebus did an EXCELLENT job here in Wisconsin to promote GOOD conservative Repbulicans, hence Governor Scott Walker, etc. Then he got tapped for DC and IMHO he was smothered by the big boys. He is a very principled man and it is a shame what has happened to the GOP. Sick of their GOPe attitude towards conservatives. They must go. We did dump Lugar - but got a Dem in his place.

Do any of you remember that when Murkowski was defeated in Alaska primary, GOP sent lawyers to help HER defeat the real winner, Miller??? Well, Murkowski is still there, now isn’t she? I called the Senatorial Office of GOP and was told that “we HAD to send lawyers - she’s a sitting senator!” I said she LOST - LOST - LOST the primary. They blew me off. I gave them a polite but forceful statement back that they would NEVER get my support again.


41 posted on 11/20/2012 5:26:43 AM PST by WaterWeWaitinFor (This great nation has chosen socialism over freedom and our constitution. How sad.)
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To: who knows what evil?

I switched to Independent several years ago because the Republicans weren’t doing their job. Now it has become even more apparent that, for the most part, the Republicans are just Democrat-lite. They have had so many opportunities to DO something, to upset the apple cart, but they have done nothing. They just sit back and ALLOW the Dems to destroy our country at every turn. I’ve had it! Unless Sarah and Allen West start their own REAL conservative party, I’m not putting my time or money into any further elections. And what is the point of voting if the Dems steal the elections and the Republicans turn their heads and pretend it didn’t happen? What happened to the Tea Party? Didn’t hear much from them this election either! I’m just so discouraged and feel so impotent and hopeless.


42 posted on 11/20/2012 5:32:00 AM PST by MomofMarine
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To: MuttTheHoople
Fraud is nothing new, nor has it always been the domain of the Dems. Boss Tweed herded drunks to the polls. Andrew Jackson's men flat out PAID for votes AT THE VOTING PLACE. The Republicans cheated very well in the election of 1876.

I understand your anger, but the fact is our side (including many Christian conservatives) just don't want to fight dirty. They are "holier than thou." Believe it or not, this was why many people wanted Romney---cause they thought he would be ruthless and sneaky. He wasn't.

Until we master Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals" and internalize the "Anarchist's Cookbook," we will lose. It's time to get in the dirt.

43 posted on 11/20/2012 5:35:50 AM PST by LS ('Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually.' Hendrix)
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To: MuttTheHoople
Fraud is nothing new, nor has it always been the domain of the Dems. Boss Tweed herded drunks to the polls. Andrew Jackson's men flat out PAID for votes AT THE VOTING PLACE. The Republicans cheated very well in the election of 1876.

I understand your anger, but the fact is our side (including many Christian conservatives) just don't want to fight dirty. They are "holier than thou." Believe it or not, this was why many people wanted Romney---cause they thought he would be ruthless and sneaky. He wasn't.

Until we master Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals" and internalize the "Anarchist's Cookbook," we will lose. It's time to get in the dirt.

44 posted on 11/20/2012 5:36:12 AM PST by LS ('Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually.' Hendrix)
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To: MuttTheHoople
The only people that take this seriously are us, We The People. It is business as usual for the rest of these politicians, consultants, pundits, and talking heads. As much as I have struggled with the concept, I can't help feeling now that the elected GOP (with very few exceptions) are just the other side of the same political establishment coin as the Dims. They all can go out a talk a good game when they think they need to, but under the surface they are on the same team, and that team doesn't include us. It is painful to accept it, and I think that is why a lot of us wanted to believe that there was a difference, that somehow we could affect change by voting. It has been like absorbing a 2 week punch to the gut since this election.

(I hope that you will be able to find gainful employment in a field somehow related to your expertise, all the best on that FRiend!)

45 posted on 11/20/2012 5:36:34 AM PST by zzeeman ("We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality.")
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To: clifcrds

Who was behind the redistricting of Col. West’s district, making him vulnerable in this election? Inquiring minds want to know.


46 posted on 11/20/2012 5:37:36 AM PST by txrefugee
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To: Old Retired Army Guy
It won't do him any good. They will do him the same way they did him this time.

Before I turned it off on election night my truck radid on WFLA was reporting that obama was getting 56% of the votes in Hillsborough County. Up till election day I saw four obama yard signs. One was on Trapmell Road, one was on Lone Oak Road, One was on Jerry Smith Road, and one was in frount of a bait shop on Road 39. The momday before the election I went to Brandon to make a car payment. I saw too many Romney signs to count and not one obama sigh. Car bumper stickers? At the most tow obama signs and these were on vehicles driven by White people.

There were Romney signs by the dozen. In yards, in front of businesses, on vehicles, and on the raodsides. Yet, they said that obama was getting 56% of the vote. From this, I knew what was happening Nationwide, turned it off and have not listened since. when obama comes on during a newscast, I turn it off. When I an at someplace he is on t.v., I tune him out mentally.

47 posted on 11/20/2012 5:45:51 AM PST by sport
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To: LS

Larry, you’re so right! I’m no spring chicken and I remember, as a child, my parents telling me the Dems were the crooked party, then learning more about them in school. It just seems that recently, they have accelerated their dirty politics and the Republicans are enabling them now!


48 posted on 11/20/2012 5:46:06 AM PST by MomofMarine
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To: almcbean
Wonder if he’d be interested in heading a new party.

Oh good grief, there are already plenty of 3rd party's that are going nowhere - why would Col West start yet another? Stop with silly fantasies, West isn't going to start some dopey 3rd party.

We need a new party based on ideas, principled conservative ideas, not pandering.

Well go join the Constitution Party, or the Libertarian Party, or even our own EternalVigilance's America's Party. There are plenty of 3rd party's and none of them are going to amount to squat in a system that so heavily favors 2 competing party's.

And West didn't lose from vote fraud, he lost because his district was changed and became more Democrat than it was before. If Col West runs in a Republican district in Florida as soon as one opens up, I am sure he will win. It was predictable that West would have trouble winning the district he is currently in.

Conservatives need to stop the whining and flailing over idiotic things like new party's or blaming our election loss on fraud. Do Democrats cheap where possible? Sure. Is that why this election cycle was such a disappointment? No. We lost because the country is more dependent than ever. There are more and more takers, for ever maker. We are marching towards becoming European social welfare state - if we aren't that already. We are far enough down this road that it is now probably nearly impossible to reverse until the whole house of cards falls.

49 posted on 11/20/2012 5:47:23 AM PST by Longbow1969
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To: MuttTheHoople

#5, what you said. Post of the day, week, month and year.


50 posted on 11/20/2012 5:48:24 AM PST by Marathoner (Benghazi = Watergate on steroids)
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