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Government wants all Americans between 15-64 to take HIV test
Associated Press ^ | November 20, 2012 | Lauran Neergaard,

Posted on 11/20/2012 6:26:10 AM PST by reaganaut1

WASHINGTON — There's a new push to make testing for the AIDS virus as common as cholesterol checks.

Americans ages 15 to 64 should get an HIV test at least once — not just people considered at high risk for the virus, an independent panel that sets screening guidelines proposed Monday.

The draft guidelines from the U.S. Preventive Services Task Force are the latest recommendations that aim to make HIV screening simply a routine part of a check-up, something a doctor can order with as little fuss as a cholesterol test or a mammogram. Since 2006, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention also has pushed for widespread, routine HIV screening.

Yet not nearly enough people have heeded that call: Of the more than 1.1 million Americans living with HIV, nearly 1 in 5 — almost 240,000 people — don't know it. Not only is their own health at risk without treatment, they could unwittingly be spreading the virus to others.

The updated guidelines will bring this long-simmering issue before doctors and their patients again — emphasizing that public health experts agree on how important it is to test even people who don't think they're at risk, because they could be.

"It allows you to say, 'This is a recommended test that we believe everybody should have. We're not singling you out in any way,'" said task force member Dr. Douglas Owens of Stanford University and the Veterans Affairs Palo Alto Health Care System.

And if finalized, the task force guidelines could extend the number of people eligible for an HIV screening without a copay in their doctor's office, as part of free preventive care under the Obama administration's health care law.

(Excerpt) Read more at knoxnews.com ...


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Would not want to "single out" anyone. We'll do everything to fight AIDS except point out that certain practices are just unhealthy and should be avoided.
1 posted on 11/20/2012 6:26:12 AM PST by reaganaut1
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To: reaganaut1
With our government run healthcare system, how long before the “recommendation” becomes mandatory?
2 posted on 11/20/2012 6:29:03 AM PST by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: reaganaut1

DNA DATABASE.... Wake up people.


3 posted on 11/20/2012 6:29:11 AM PST by ILS21R (Everything... IS... a conspiracy)
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To: reaganaut1

Follow the money.

I would bet that the largest manufacturer of tests or their CEO is a major Democrat or contributor.


4 posted on 11/20/2012 6:29:16 AM PST by Hang'emAll (Ride to the sound of the guns!)
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To: reaganaut1
" .. an independent panel that sets screening guidelines ..


.. and where the phuque did THEY come from ?

hmmm ?

5 posted on 11/20/2012 6:29:53 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: reaganaut1

Make it a condition of getting birth control. That should get a rise out of the b’s that voted for Obama... he, he, he


6 posted on 11/20/2012 6:29:53 AM PST by Average Al
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To: reaganaut1

How about we start by requiring all sodomites, prostitutes and porn actors be tested for HIV. That should reduce the unknown carriers by about 99%.


7 posted on 11/20/2012 6:30:34 AM PST by Louis Foxwell (Better the devil we can destroy than the Judas we must tolerate.)
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To: Average Al

and welfare, social security benefits and education benefits.


8 posted on 11/20/2012 6:32:43 AM PST by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: Louis Foxwell

You’d still have druggies to worry about. Maybe that’s how they’ll push decriminalization.

“If you get tested for HIV, you can do all the heroin you want!” That’s the logic that nanny-statists love.


9 posted on 11/20/2012 6:34:43 AM PST by Shadow44
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To: reaganaut1

Actually, it’s not a bad idea. I want the ability to quarantine people with AIDS. I don’t want them spreading the disease if it comes to that(i.e. giving blood).


10 posted on 11/20/2012 6:35:16 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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To: reaganaut1

Another sleight of hand government program to inculcate the general population with the idea that HIV and AIDS are just everyday health issues that can affect anyone.

Sort of like the flu or a sore tummy.

They will continue to do whatever it takes to mainstream sexual perversion.


11 posted on 11/20/2012 6:35:24 AM PST by Iron Munro (Robbing From The Hood and Boy Blunder - Our New Queen and King)
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To: knarf

In the medical field (as others) the “independent” panels that set “guidelines” are formed of people and organizations who seek the power to profit themselves by the rules they recommend.

Let’s not forget the MILLIONS of people who will experience the trauma of false positives.


12 posted on 11/20/2012 6:35:57 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Hold My Beer and Watch This!)
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To: reaganaut1

They want everyone’s DNA and this is a ploy to get it. Part and parcel of the type of control they are starting to exert. And to think that just a few years ago this would be called homophobic. Don’t we all just love the brave new world the One is building? /s


13 posted on 11/20/2012 6:38:51 AM PST by pepperdog ( I still get a thrill up my leg when spell check doesn't recognize the name/word Obama!)
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To: reaganaut1

Why not a sodium pentothal shot for all politicians? That would be much more helpful to the body politic than this cockeyed idea.


14 posted on 11/20/2012 6:40:06 AM PST by txrefugee
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To: reaganaut1

Let Barry Hussein be the first one tested!


15 posted on 11/20/2012 6:43:39 AM PST by massmike (At least no one is wearing a "Ron Paul - 2016" tee shirt........yet!)
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To: reaganaut1

We’re all homosexuals now.


16 posted on 11/20/2012 6:45:07 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the psychopath.)
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To: reaganaut1
The VA is already doing this.

I was surprised when my doctor asked me to take the test. I said no, why should I? I'm not a homosexual, and have been with the same woman for 30 years. She said ok, forget it.

5.56mm

17 posted on 11/20/2012 6:45:53 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: massmike

I have used this CDC recommendation to teach students Bayes’ Rule. The problem with applying such a screening test to the entire adult population is that HIV infection is relatively uncommon (fewer than 1 per 100) and the office-based test has a nontrivial false positive rate. So, the probability that you really are HIV positive, given that you initially test positive with the cheap office test, is fairly low.


18 posted on 11/20/2012 6:50:57 AM PST by riverdawg
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To: reaganaut1

I wonder which well-placed socialist owns the testing company? Pelosi, Reid?


19 posted on 11/20/2012 6:53:17 AM PST by crusty old prospector
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To: The_Victor
how long before the “recommendation” becomes mandatory?

Doesn't really matter. I have had but one partner for the last 30 years and vice versa. The Gubmint can kiss my arse.

20 posted on 11/20/2012 6:56:06 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts ('Need' now means wanting someone else's money. 'Greed' means wanting to keep your own...)
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To: reaganaut1
The government wants to collect your DNA.
21 posted on 11/20/2012 6:58:18 AM PST by Christie at the beach (I like Newt. .Our nation's foundation is under attack.)
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To: reaganaut1
The government wants to collect your DNA.
22 posted on 11/20/2012 6:58:36 AM PST by Christie at the beach (I like Newt. .Our nation's foundation is under attack.)
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To: Christie at the beach

Sorry for the double post. The site page is acting odd.


23 posted on 11/20/2012 6:59:49 AM PST by Christie at the beach (I like Newt. .Our nation's foundation is under attack.)
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To: reaganaut1

I agree that this is simply an effort to further mainstream AIDS as “just another disease” and remove the social stigma. The incrementalism at work to normalize homosexuality and other perversions continues on.


24 posted on 11/20/2012 7:01:42 AM PST by TChris ("Hello", the politician lied.)
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To: reaganaut1

When the aids “epidemic” first came on the bathhouse scene, the CDC refuse categorically to call it an epidemic, and thus consigned hemophiliacs and others requiring blood transfusions in the discovery phase of the nasty disorder to certain death by aids. It was quite a while before control over the blood supply was gained. In that period many thousands, possibly tens of thousands, died as a result of those poor decisions.

So now years later at least 30 years later, we suddenly need to do something?


25 posted on 11/20/2012 7:13:42 AM PST by wita
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To: reaganaut1

An HIV test has been a standard part of normal blood work for pregnant women in Delaware for at least 15 years. It was kind of surprising too see it on the paper work with the results I was given.


26 posted on 11/20/2012 7:20:50 AM PST by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: The_Victor

Couple of weeks, I imagine. WEll, after they get the paperwork in order.

Hmm. I wonder how efficient HIS system will be. Maybe for things like this very much so.

This is likely about identifying .

The gays think OB is favorable to them.

Wrongo!

Only in pre election mode.

They go under the bus - left w/o health care pretty quick.

Which group is next in line for under-the-bus-dom?


27 posted on 11/20/2012 7:23:34 AM PST by stanne
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To: reaganaut1

They can blow me... oh wait, that would put me at risk. I already have taken an HIV test. It’s the test with the question that begins with “do you take this woman.”


28 posted on 11/20/2012 7:24:57 AM PST by MarineBrat (Better dead than red!)
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To: AppyPappy

They do mandatory AIDS/HIV testing in Arab countries before they grant a work visa and every time your visa is up for renewal.

If you test positive you are barred form entering the country. I don’t know what they do with the citizens of that country though.


29 posted on 11/20/2012 7:25:50 AM PST by USAF80
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To: reaganaut1

They should narrow that down to the gay community and their supporters. If I have to be a medical tourist, so be it.


30 posted on 11/20/2012 7:27:19 AM PST by jersey117
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To: reaganaut1
I've been married to the same woman for 25 years. I do not commit adultery. Therefore, there is no way for me to contract HIV.

I will not comply.

31 posted on 11/20/2012 7:28:34 AM PST by backwoods-engineer ("Remember: Evil exists because good men don't kill the gov officials committing it." -- K. Hoffmann)
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To: wita
The fairies want to give blood now. They claim it is discrimination because they are like “normal” now.
32 posted on 11/20/2012 7:42:08 AM PST by USAF80
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To: Hang'emAll
I would bet that the largest manufacturer of tests or their CEO is a major Democrat or contributor.

It's Rick Perry and the HPV vaccine follow the money scam all over again.

33 posted on 11/20/2012 7:44:57 AM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: ILS21R

“DNA DATABASE.... Wake up people.”

Exactly. This is about control over the people.


34 posted on 11/20/2012 7:46:26 AM PST by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: reaganaut1

Costs? One size fits all. Let’s start with all homosexuals taking the test first. They are the biggest at risk population.


35 posted on 11/20/2012 7:47:00 AM PST by kabar
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To: reaganaut1

Everyone Has AIDS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yC7HwPh6Es


36 posted on 11/20/2012 7:49:01 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: M Kehoe
The VA is already doing this. I was surprised when my doctor asked me to take the test.

Same as doctors are now asking about guns in your home. Dentists are now doing blood pressure tests. The last time I had my drivers' license renewed, I had to give my finger print. Banks are also requiring finger prints to cash a check. Too much Big Brother. I've said no to all but needing my license.

37 posted on 11/20/2012 7:52:08 AM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: reaganaut1

How about starting with drug testing for welfare recipients and see how that works.


38 posted on 11/20/2012 8:20:36 AM PST by crosshairs (Hurricane Barry is 1000 times more destructive than Hurricane Sandy.)
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To: riverdawg
HIV infection is relatively uncommon (fewer than 1 per 100)

Actually, in DC among Blacks between 15 and 55, the HIV infection rate is about 1 in 10.

39 posted on 11/20/2012 8:42:32 AM PST by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: VanShuyten

But the government proposal isn’t to screen only inner city blacks or other high risk groups. It wants to screen every adult, and that’s the problem from a statistical and public policy standpoint.


40 posted on 11/20/2012 8:45:40 AM PST by riverdawg
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To: reaganaut1

Yep, bending the will of 330,000,000 people because of 240,000 people’s deviancy....

Welcome to the new AmeriKa.


41 posted on 11/20/2012 8:49:26 AM PST by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

This may be so the homosexuals can get FREE testing whenever they need it...like monthly. Sort of a male equalizer to free birth control for the women. We’ll never figure that one out...just test us all because as you said, “we’re all homosexuals now”.


42 posted on 11/20/2012 9:46:15 AM PST by sanjuanbob
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To: reaganaut1

No effing way.


43 posted on 11/20/2012 10:07:28 AM PST by Fast Moving Angel (A moral wrong is not a civil right: No religious sanction of an irreligious act.)
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To: The_Victor

With IPAB firmly entrenched, how long before those with AIDS, so far incurable, are given pain pills and told to go back to the AIDS camp?

Obamacare will guarantee that nobody gets refused membership in a health plan for pre-existing conditions, but getting treatment will be another story, since the budget is limited.


44 posted on 11/20/2012 10:11:54 AM PST by DPMD
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To: reaganaut1

1. this is about making HIV a “normal population issue.” and thus get more money.

2. this is also about the fact that homosexuals and drug users LIE. Their lives are based on lies. Those in hospitals need to be protected from their lies.


45 posted on 11/20/2012 10:14:15 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Hang'emAll
Follow the money.

I would bet that the largest manufacturer of tests or their CEO is a major Democrat or contributor.

Indeed.

FOLLOW THE MONEY.

46 posted on 11/20/2012 10:15:22 AM PST by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes everything)
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To: Average Al

Make it a condition of getting birth control. That should get a rise out of the b’s that voted for Obama... he, he, he


H ha ha! Good one. How about free anything, you need to be drug and HIV tested?


47 posted on 11/20/2012 10:16:11 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: reaganaut1

Of course, Obammycare kicks in after 64, and you don’t get tested for nuttin’!


48 posted on 11/20/2012 10:17:02 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Obama should change his campaign slogan to "Yes, we am!" Sounds as stupid as his administration is.)
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To: reaganaut1

You all do realize that every pregnant woman is tested now. If you get free prenatal care at a clinic, you will be tested. If you have insurance, you will be tested. You might not even know that this is one of the many blood screens you will be undergoing, but they are all tested.

It’s actually a good thing, because if someone is positive, there are ways to save the child from being positive.


49 posted on 11/20/2012 10:19:35 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: bgill

but voting only requires......


50 posted on 11/20/2012 10:19:52 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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