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Powerful Supermajorities Elected to Statehouses
AP via Yahoo ^ | 11/20/12 | DAVID A. LIEB

Posted on 11/20/2012 4:21:51 PM PST by qam1

JEFFERSON CITY, Mo. (AP) — There's a new superpower growing in the Great Plains and the South, where bulging Republican majorities in state capitols could dramatically cut taxes and change public education with barely a whimper of resistance from Democrats.

Contrast that with California, where voters have given Democrats a new dominance that could allow them to raise taxes and embrace same-sex marriage without regard to Republican objections.

If you thought the presidential election revealed the nation's political rifts, consider the outcomes in state legislatures. The vote also created a broader tier of powerful one-party governments that can act with no need for compromise. Half of state legislatures now have veto-proof majorities, up from 13 only four years ago, according to figures compiled for The Associated Press by the National Conference of State Legislatures.

All but three states — Iowa, Kentucky and New Hampshire — have one-party control of their legislatures, the highest mark since 1928.

The result could lead to stark differences in how people live and work.

"Usually, a partisan tide helps the same party across the country, but what we saw in this past election was the opposite of that — some states getting bluer and some states getting redder," said Thad Kousser, an associate political science professor at the University of California-San Diego who focuses on state politics. As a result, "we'll see increasing policy divergence across the states."

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I'm not a voter fraud costs us the election, but if both Ohio & Penn. elected Republican Supermajorities how did Obama win?

They should at the very least switch to a proportional system for their electoral college while they can, this way voter fraud won't matter as much.

1 posted on 11/20/2012 4:21:56 PM PST by qam1
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To: qam1

Personally I’d love to see a serious push to overturn the 17th amendment but I would be satisfied to see electoral votes handed out according to congressional district wins.


2 posted on 11/20/2012 4:25:26 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: qam1
There's a new superpower growing in the Great Plains and the South, where bulging Republican majorities in state capitols could dramatically cut taxes and change public education with barely a whimper of resistance from Democrats.

Wishful thinking. Show me where a GOP supermajority in a state, with a GOP governor, ever did ANYTHING to roll back the monstrosity of bureaucratic government!

Just ONE!

No, these morons are Bushbots and RINO's that think government is great as long as they are in charge.

3 posted on 11/20/2012 4:29:19 PM PST by Fledermaus (The Republic is Dead: Collapse the system. Let the Dems destroy the economy!)
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To: qam1

Something like 23 states have republicans in control of house, senate, and governor’s mansion.


4 posted on 11/20/2012 4:29:39 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: qam1

Also take a look at their Congressional representation. Overwhelmingly Republican (albeit squishy ones in many districts). Where was the ground game?


5 posted on 11/20/2012 4:31:03 PM PST by Fledermaus (The Republic is Dead: Collapse the system. Let the Dems destroy the economy!)
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To: cripplecreek
I would be satisfied to see electoral votes handed out according to congressional district wins.

Has anyone done an analysis of whether that would have affected the result this time?

6 posted on 11/20/2012 4:31:21 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Fledermaus


Here are a couple of good things done in Michigan in the past week.

2012 Senate Bill 1276: Restrict setting aside state land for “biological diversity”

Introduced by Sen. Tom Casperson (R) on September 13, 2012, to prohibit the Department of Natural Resources from designating an area of land specifically for the purpose of achieving “biological diversity”.

2012 Senate Bill 1238: Revise state land acquisition procedures

Introduced by Sen. Darwin Booher (R) on August 15, 2012, to establish new procedures, criteria and restrictions for the acquisition by the state of property paid for with Natural Resources Trust Fund money, and add two new members to the decision making board who would be appointed by the House Speaker and Senate Majority leader (subject to certain restrictions). Among other things, if land was acquired for transfer to a land conservancy without assurance it would have to be kept open for all types of recreational use.
7 posted on 11/20/2012 4:34:06 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

not in 2012, but would like to see if any red legislatures (in a blue state) would have the guts to do it.

Penn???


8 posted on 11/20/2012 4:36:23 PM PST by Kolath
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To: qam1
if both Ohio & Penn. elected Republican Supermajorities how did Obama win?

...and if I'm reading that map correctly, West Virginia has a Dem. supermajority??? WTF?

9 posted on 11/20/2012 4:38:36 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: qam1
I'm not a voter fraud costs us the election, but if both Ohio & Penn. elected Republican Supermajorities how did Obama win?

Because Democrats are clustered together, like a colony of rats or vipers. Republicans are more spread out. In more basic terms, you have state senate district packed with Democrats, and the Democrat candidate wins 95% of the vote or more. Republicans are winning districts throughout the rest of the state with around 55% of the vote.

10 posted on 11/20/2012 4:42:28 PM PST by Arthurio
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To: Fledermaus
Show me where a GOP supermajority in a state, with a GOP governor, ever did ANYTHING to roll back the monstrosity of bureaucratic government!

Just ONE!

No, these morons are Bushbots and RINO's that think government is great as long as they are in charge.

Sounds like you've been watching the Texas state legislature in session, from the gallery....

11 posted on 11/20/2012 4:42:42 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: qam1

Pennsylvania’s voter ID law was blocked only weeks before the election by liberal judges.


12 posted on 11/20/2012 4:43:44 PM PST by Fresh Wind (Cut the cable today!)
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To: Lurking Libertarian; WVNan
...if I'm reading that map correctly, West Virginia has a Dem. supermajority??? WTF?

From what I understand, there are a lot of paleo-Democrats in West Virginia. Different breed than the rest of the Marx loving, leftist party.

That about right, Nan?

13 posted on 11/20/2012 4:46:01 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Arthurio
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The northern democrat district is deceptive because north of Saginaw is pretty sparsely populated. Unfortunately I think quite a few conservatives were redistricted into that district to make up some numbers. On the other hand it may have weakened the hold of Flint.
14 posted on 11/20/2012 4:50:29 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

And in 2009 both Alabama and Arkansas had Democratic supermajorities,

Congratulations on the blood bath to turn it totally around, but wtf took them so long?


15 posted on 11/20/2012 4:55:52 PM PST by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: cripplecreek

Republican goverors and legislatures can reject many federal programs which would help to reduce the dependency on the federal government. Many LBJ programs need to go by the wayside. Reduce the dependency on federal programs and you will reduce the numbers of democrat bureacrats that make up the democrat machine. These are the people who give their government union dollars to support the democrats’ campaigns.


16 posted on 11/20/2012 5:01:44 PM PST by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: Arthurio

Republicans need to get those small town numbers up. Spread the word about the cleptomaniac democrat party. The dems never pass up any opportunity to bad mouth republicans, fight fire with fire. Bad mouth democrats to everyone you know.


17 posted on 11/20/2012 5:05:08 PM PST by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: qam1
And in 2009 both Alabama and Arkansas had Democratic supermajorities, Congratulations on the blood bath to turn it totally around, but wtf took them so long?

Their great great grand pappy's barn was burned down by a Republican back in 1864. Took them THAT long to get over it.

18 posted on 11/20/2012 5:11:53 PM PST by Arthurio
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To: qam1

My Libertarian son just told me that the Libertarians keyed in on those two states to get Libertarians running as Republicans into the state offices. And they also voted for conservatives for those offices. But, they didn’t vote for Obama or Romney.


19 posted on 11/20/2012 5:13:12 PM PST by cantfindagoodscreenname (I really hate not knowing what was said in the deleted posts....)
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To: qam1

One can only pray that this country soon experiences a series of events...economic events...that are so disturbing and frightening that either the Rats realize they must change their basic philosophy *or* they wake up enough people nationwide to cause them to kick the Rats to the kerb.Also,these events must be of such a nature that,with proper leadership,the nation can recover and strengthen itself in time.


20 posted on 11/20/2012 5:17:15 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Benghazi: What Did Baraq Know And When Did He Know It?)
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To: Fledermaus

Indiana passed Right to Work in 2012.


21 posted on 11/20/2012 5:17:26 PM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: nascarnation

My state rep is saying that he wants some opinions on right to work in Michigan. He also suggests making sure the governor knows we want it.

With the beating the unions took on election night, Michigan seems ripe.


22 posted on 11/20/2012 5:22:20 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Windflier
Sounds like you've been watching the Texas state legislature in session, from the gallery....

Well, that's house speaker Straus and lieutenant governor Dewhurst working their greasy grift with the 'Rats to control the agenda -- effectively a minority regime flouting the majoritiy, with the complicity of two Uber-RiNO's and a handful of HemorRhiNO's.

23 posted on 11/20/2012 5:43:39 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: Windflier

Yep, that’s right. WV is a conservative state with a “good ole boy” network that controls Charleston. A politician running for office has to “speak” conservative and they know exactly how to do that. Think “Boss Hog” and you will understand the democrat in WV. We Tea Parties are working at the local level to make inroads against the strangle hold on the State Legislature. The unions have always been part of the problem because of the supremacy of the coal industry. Since the “0” has killed the mines, things are looking up for changing things.

In our district we elected the first GOP delegate and the first direct delegate for our county ever. He is our Tea Party leader and a former Marine. He has 1/2 the county, so we elected another GOP delegate for the other half too.

Our plan is to take power from the bottom up. It will take time, but we are resolute.


24 posted on 11/20/2012 5:44:59 PM PST by WVNan
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To: qam1; All

This is good news. But I wish that state lawmakers would wise up to the fact that the only daily domestic government service that Congress has constitutional authority to tax and spend for is the postal service. In fact, justice John Marshall had clarified that Congress is prohibited from laying taxes in the name of state power issues, issues which Congress has no power to address under Section 8 of Article I of the Constitution.

In other words, the states should be much richer than they are now, Congress limited to laying taxes largely to keep the armed forces running.


25 posted on 11/20/2012 5:50:06 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: lentulusgracchus
...that's house speaker Straus and lieutenant governor Dewhurst working their greasy grift with the 'Rats to control the agenda -- effectively a minority regime flouting the majoritiy, with the complicity of two Uber-RiNO's and a handful of HemorRhiNO's.

Thanks for spelling it out for the folks, Lent. That's precisely the situation in the Texas state legislature.

The Texas State House Problem

One of the big problems we have had in Texas is that our prior Speaker of the House (Joe Straus) stacked the deck with "his" people as committee chairs and thus bills wanted by the majority of Texans never even got to the House floor for a vote.

While legislative impediment is good for poorly crafted bills, it has become a major tool of power brokers to block the true will of the people, including for bills that would have 90% or more representative approval.

The 'Powers That Be' asked conservatives for a list of 20 bills they felt were a priority last time and told us to judge them on their performance on them. We have; they passed a paltry 5 of them and some of those were watered down beyond all recognition. This, with a super-majority in place.

This impediment on behalf of the power elites is managed by a handful of committee chairs, assuring popular legislation never even gets a hearing in committee, much less a floor vote; even committee members didn't have a say. This relegates all other State representatives as pawns to be managed by the Professional Political Class through these Chairman.

This must STOP in the name of representative government! And NOTHING changes without a change in Speaker!

Here is some background on Joe & this mess we are in:

http://www.teaparty911.com/blog/tag/joe-straus

http://m.lubbockonline.com/interact/blog-post/enriquerangel/2012-11-10/rough-time-house-speaker-straus

http://www.texastribune.org/texas-legislature/82nd-legislative-session/

http://www.teaparty911.com/blog/jim-pitts-texas-tea-party-public-enemy-no-2/

There is much more out there on the web covering the underhanded dealings, gambling, and over all unethical dealings lead by Speaker Joe Staus.

The power of the people has been heard and effective in the past. We need to be stronger so the "elite" power brokers of Texas hear us.

· First, contact your Texas House of Representatives member and let him/her know in no uncertain terms that the current way of doing business is unacceptable and they should not support Joe Straus and his henchman -

o By Phone

o By mail

o By email

o In person

o At town hall meetings

· Contact House members in other Districts - yes, they don't represent you, but their actions affect you.

· Another thing is to sign up for all petitions. Here are two:

o http://tinyurl.com/imwithbryan

o http://www.txconservativespeaker.com/sign-the-petition-against-joe-straus-as-texas-speaker-of-the-house/

· Get others involved - we need a ground swell as never before.

26 posted on 11/20/2012 5:55:56 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: qam1
but if both Ohio & Penn. elected Republican Supermajorities how did Obama win?

It is a puzzle. Republicans in both states definitely need to refine and improve their voting systems to avoid fraud.

27 posted on 11/20/2012 6:12:16 PM PST by PGR88
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To: cripplecreek
Something like 23 states have republicans in control of house, senate, and governor’s mansion.

Do you remember the panicky, OMG OMG! articles that appeared everywhere four years ago, when the Dems had locks in 10 States, to only four Republican?

Didn't think so.

28 posted on 11/20/2012 6:13:04 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: WVNan
Think “Boss Hog” and you will understand the democrat in WV.

"Boss Hogg" was actually portrayed by a (recently deceased) character actor from Brooklyn. He did a fine job, although his accent was more South Alabama than Georgia.

29 posted on 11/20/2012 6:20:59 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: Fledermaus

Gov. Scott Walker in Wisconsin, and he didn’t have a supermajority in the state senate.


30 posted on 11/20/2012 6:21:12 PM PST by erkelly (Never underestimate the stupidity of the stupid party!)
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To: lentulusgracchus

Sorrell Booke. He based his character’s accent on Strom Thurmond.


31 posted on 11/20/2012 6:24:38 PM PST by Publius (Will comply with 10-289 for food.)
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To: cripplecreek

“Here are a couple of good things done in Michigan in the past week.”

The problem with Michigan is that its legislature is *always* in session. Gives them too much idle time to think up nonsense to pass.

The great thing about Texas is that its legislature meets for only a few days once every two years. The session is just long enough to give them time to focus on and pass critical legislation. They lack the time for the nonsense.

Texas politicians are just as goofy as politicians everywhere in the U.S. The ONLY they do so little damage is that they lack the time while the legislature is in session.

Was born in Michigan and moved to Texas in 1979, shortly after graduating from college. When I first moved to Texas I was shocked at the short legislative season. They didn’t do it that way in Michigan. Then after I lived in Texas a few years I realized that was why Texas wasn’t as screwed up as Michigan. Texas did things differently than Michigan. For all the left-behinds in Michigan, consider modifying your state constitution to allow the legislature to use Texas’s legislative schedule.


32 posted on 11/20/2012 6:30:43 PM PST by No Truce With Kings (Ten years on FreeRepublic and counting.)
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To: cripplecreek

GA is red, red and red.


33 posted on 11/20/2012 6:44:23 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Amazingly enough, all 3 Michigan branches went red in 2010.


34 posted on 11/20/2012 6:46:29 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: WVNan
WV is a conservative state with a “good ole boy” network that controls Charleston. A politician running for office has to “speak” conservative and they know exactly how to do that. Think “Boss Hog” and you will understand the democrat in WV.

Thanks, Nan. That's pretty much how I've heard WV politics described here on FR. It's amazing, the education I get around this place.

35 posted on 11/20/2012 6:59:38 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Remember “hope for the best prepare for the worst” take hope out of the picture. I see nothing positive moving forward.


36 posted on 11/20/2012 7:17:27 PM PST by ronnie raygun (bb)
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To: qam1; Fred Nerks; Beckwith

some states getting bluer and some states getting redder,”>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Yep. Thats been predicted, as some states have a population which KNOWS what the Obama Junta represents, while others have yet to discover the truth of history.Its an uphill battle because the MSM covers FOR Obama.

Discover this truth yourself:
Good read:

http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html


37 posted on 11/20/2012 7:30:03 PM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article: http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: qam1

The red states need to pass laws prohibiting the scum that flee the blue socialist states they’ve destroyed from voting in statewide elections for a period of ten years, allowing amnesty (and the ability to vote) only to those who can prove they have been registered Republicans for at least the past two elections.

This kind of legislation might at least slow the Democrat scum who migrate like locusts and destroy one state after another.


38 posted on 11/20/2012 7:42:39 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: qam1

Another tactic I strongly recommend to the red states is to put up posters in all the welfare offices showing the moochers and eaters who comprise the Democrat party base where they can move to (one-way ticket to blue Democrat state provided for free [of course]) to get all the food stamps, welfare, and housing they could ever dream of.


39 posted on 11/20/2012 7:49:20 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Lurking Libertarian
You can do a simple analysis as follows:

State winners:
RATS 26 states x 2 =52 + 3 from DC = 55
GOP: 24 states x 2 = 48

Add in the congressional districts won or leading:
RATS 201 districts + 52 from the state wins + DC = 256 electoral votes
GOP 233 districts + 48 from the state wins = 281 electoral votes.

Of course, the above does not take into account congressional districts which vote for congressmen and presidents of opposite parties. But it does serve as a reasonable guideline of what would happen on the national level if every state adopted the district system.

40 posted on 11/20/2012 7:49:40 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: qam1

Thanks for this thread.


41 posted on 11/20/2012 8:20:02 PM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: cripplecreek

Those states need to band together. Time for Republicans to grow a spine and push back against the federal government.


42 posted on 11/20/2012 8:26:34 PM PST by generally (Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: Windflier

Sometimes I think we learn too much. It makes us ill-content. LOL


43 posted on 11/20/2012 8:30:55 PM PST by WVNan
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To: qam1
If they had a clue they would start bringing the 120% blue rat districts under control.

Time to stop giving the parasites a say in how much they get to loot.

44 posted on 11/20/2012 8:41:53 PM PST by hopespringseternal
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To: Vigilanteman
Of course, the above does not take into account congressional districts which vote for congressmen and presidents of opposite parties.

There were a lot of them this election. That is why I asked. If presidential electors were selected in every state the way Maine and Nebraska do now, would it have changed the result this year? I honestly do not know, and your post doesn't answer it.

45 posted on 11/20/2012 8:53:59 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Lancey Howard
The red states need to pass laws prohibiting the scum that flee the blue socialist states they’ve destroyed from voting in statewide elections for a period of ten years,

I don't know if you're joking, but that would be blatantly unconstitutional. As the Supreme Court has ruled, under the 14th Amendment, "citizens can pick their states, but states cannot pick their citizens."

46 posted on 11/20/2012 9:00:49 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Lurking Libertarian
As the Supreme Court has ruled, under the 14th Amendment, "citizens can pick their states, but states cannot pick their citizens."

Okay then, see post #39. States can certainly help people find (and move to) more accomodating states.

47 posted on 11/20/2012 9:39:20 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Windflier

bkmk


48 posted on 11/20/2012 9:41:25 PM PST by Jane Long (Philippians 2:11)
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To: Windflier

The TN one actually.


49 posted on 11/20/2012 9:51:33 PM PST by Fledermaus (The Republic is Dead: Collapse the system. Let the Dems destroy the economy!)
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To: nascarnation

Good


50 posted on 11/20/2012 9:54:23 PM PST by Fledermaus (The Republic is Dead: Collapse the system. Let the Dems destroy the economy!)
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