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Boehner Tightens Grip on Rank & File GOP (Goes to war on Conservatives)
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Posted on 11/20/2012 5:31:41 PM PST by INVAR

Snip: The Ohio Republican has smoothed over differences with Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.), expanded his powers on the panel that doles out plum committee assignments, shot down a challenge to his earmark moratorium and worked behind the scenes to ensure that Rep. Cathy McMorris Rodgers (R-Wash.) would win her leadership contest.

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For those of us who thought that John Boehner was weak and flaccid in the face of adversity, we might consider rethinking our estimation of him. This article out today details all of Boehner’s recent power grabs and scorched-earth maneuvering in order to crush conservative opposition in the House.

After locking up the top three leadership spots for himself, Cantor, and McCarthy, Boehner made sure to deny conservatives the number four slot.

Then he co-ops Paul Ryan, a man who likes to play team ball, in an effort to get his seal of approval on the impending fiscal cliff capitulation:

Then, Boehner proceeded to stack the Steering Committee with his acolytes. The Steering Committee is responsible for doling out committee assignments to the entire House GOP Conference. The Steering Committee is comprised of all leadership members, Fred Upton, Dave Camp, Hal Rogers, Paul Ryan, and a number of leadership allies. Worse yet, he gave himself multiple votes.

Lastly, they moved to crush any organized conservative opposition through the Republican Study Committee by helping install Steve Scalise as chairman. Scalise has committed to working closely with leadership at a time when leadership has committed to banishing conservatives from all levers of power.

When you step back and reflect on these hardball tactics of the Speaker, it is tough to overlook the irony behind his ultimate motivation. Boehner is employing scorch-the-earth tactics against conservatives……so he can have free rein in capitulating to Democrats on a laundry list of policy items.

H/T commentary from Daniel Horowitz at Madison Project for boiling down all the political-speak glossing over what this means to Conservatives in the House.

http://madisonproject.com/2012/11/boehner-plays-hardball-with-conservatives-so-he-can-play-softball-with-dems/

1 posted on 11/20/2012 5:31:50 PM PST by INVAR
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To: INVAR
Boehner is not much better than a democrat.

Its not conservatives vs liberals folks. Its statists (Boehner and most of the GOP being in this catagory) vs free Americans.

2 posted on 11/20/2012 5:35:11 PM PST by skeeter
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To: INVAR

Dont worry. Many ‘conservatives’ are gonna hold his feet to the fire.

/s


3 posted on 11/20/2012 5:35:57 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: INVAR

Well, Mr Boner, I may not be able to defeat the left, but I can damn sure defeat your pathetic party.

You are on your own.


4 posted on 11/20/2012 5:36:49 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: berdie

later


5 posted on 11/20/2012 5:36:49 PM PST by berdie
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To: INVAR

I’m shocked that the game of politics is being played out in Republican held Congress.

That sarcasm, be that as it may, Boehner is in for a big surprise when he starts to capitulate to Liberals financial policies as all they are going to do is turn around and ask for more capitulation.


6 posted on 11/20/2012 5:37:57 PM PST by Usagi_yo
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To: INVAR

And here I thought that Romney’s election would kill conservatism. Seems just his nomination threatens to do that.


7 posted on 11/20/2012 5:38:12 PM PST by RIghtwardHo
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To: INVAR
The Ohio Republican has smoothed over differences with Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.), expanded his powers on the panel that doles out plum committee assignments, shot down a challenge to his earmark moratorium and worked behind the scenes to ensure that Rep. Cathy McMorris Rodgers (R-Wash.) would win her leadership contest.

So he's making peace with Cantor, taking responsibility for choosing committee assignments, refusing to expand earmarks, and backing McMorris.

Why is this "war" exactly?

8 posted on 11/20/2012 5:41:36 PM PST by what's up
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To: RIghtwardHo

What killed conservatism is ‘conservatives putting the politics of ‘winning’ over principle. Then trashing everyone who wouldn’t go along for the ride.

Now they have no win, their ‘party’ is going full Democrat and no one can trust them to man up, admit their mistake and work toward a counter-party to the GOP.

THAT is what put the final nail into conservatism. Perhaps permanantly.


9 posted on 11/20/2012 5:44:16 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

Yeah, that was preached by the ABO crowd pushing Romney.

I hold that Boehner is in league with the Marxists himself. He knows where the power is going to lie, and he and the rest of the Ruling Class Establishment - will do whatever it takes to share in it.

Including helping the Marxists and the Democrats destroy Conservatives.

If you ever needed proof that Conservatives need to split the GOP and start a third party - these facts reported here are your proof.


10 posted on 11/20/2012 5:45:10 PM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: what's up

I’m also not seeing much of a “war” here. It doesn’t change the fact that Boehner is a teary-eyed snake.


11 posted on 11/20/2012 5:45:51 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: what's up
Boehner plays hardball with Conservatives so he can play softball with Obama and the Democrats
12 posted on 11/20/2012 5:48:08 PM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: skeeter
Its statists (Boehner and most of the GOP being in this catagory) vs free Americans.

More accurately, it's Washington vs the rest of us.

13 posted on 11/20/2012 5:48:24 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA; Ignorance on parade.)
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To: RIghtwardHo
Mr. Boehner is doing the ground work for ‘Romney/McCain 2016’.
This election I did not vote for the local Republican Congressman. Next election, I expect to actively work against him and the rest of the Phoney GOPe.
TWB
14 posted on 11/20/2012 5:48:37 PM PST by TWhiteBear (Sarah Palin...The Flame of the North)
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To: Viennacon
I’m also not seeing much of a “war” here.

The only thing we're seeing here is the usual MSM tactic of using rhetoric to turn conservatives against their leaders.

It seems like FR falls for it just about every time.

Boehner's trying to get the GOP united for tough talks with Obama. And this is supposed to be a bad thing?

15 posted on 11/20/2012 5:51:08 PM PST by what's up
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To: what's up

Some of us called it out from the start...


16 posted on 11/20/2012 5:52:57 PM PST by JCBreckenridge (They may take our lives... but they'll never take our FREEDOM!)
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To: what's up

“...get the GOP united for tough talks with Obama”

This is the hands-down stupidist thing I ever read on FR.


17 posted on 11/20/2012 5:54:42 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: skeeter

Boehner is probably worse than a dim, because he makes Repubs even hate the GOP.


18 posted on 11/20/2012 5:56:34 PM PST by 21st Century Crusader (August 26, 1191)
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To: what's up

Boehner’s NOT “my” leader.

I remember what he did in conjunction with Romnye and the rest of the Ruling Class Establishment Oligarchs on Tuesday during the RNC.

This Hill article, smoothed over to hide what is really going on that Daniel Horowitz puts plainly -tells us that what is going on, is a PUNISHMENT and PURGE of Conservatives in the GOP.

And if you believe that Boehner is not going to cave to Obama, then you must still think that Romney and”Moderates’ are the best hope to beat Democrats in national elections also.


19 posted on 11/20/2012 5:59:28 PM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: INVAR

I’m sick of Congressman Boehner beating the stuffings out of Rush Limbaugh and other Conservatives. I am DONE with the Republican Party. We used to donate to them; but no more. Why do I want to support Communist Lite; they’ll have to keep on “seeing the Obama light” if they know what is good for them as far as the good graces of Joe Biden go. (Here’s a clue: Rush , Sarah, Allen West and the Tea Party are about all they’ve got going for them.)


20 posted on 11/20/2012 6:04:27 PM PST by Twinkie (Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.)
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To: INVAR
And if you believe that Boehner is not going to cave to Obama

I don't know if he will cave. We'll see. But I do know he didn't cave last time:

Boehner Says No

21 posted on 11/20/2012 6:04:30 PM PST by what's up
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To: INVAR; All

I wish someone could find and post the vid of Boner standing behind the speakers during the Tea Party rally on the Cap Steps during the Health Care debate. I watched him and was utterly disgusted. He kept looking from side-to-side...licked his lips....and acted as though he had a plane to catch (as if mocking what was being said at the podium). I will NEVER forget it. Made my blood boil.


22 posted on 11/20/2012 6:04:42 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: Norm Lenhart

So why is trying to unite for a fight a stupid thing?


23 posted on 11/20/2012 6:06:39 PM PST by what's up
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To: INVAR
We basically have one choice; get steamrolled by Obama and the Senate or let Boehner capitulate to them. Recall for a moment that TARP was a bad deal for Americans (sent money to Europe and prolonged the recession) and a win for big government, big banks and their political puppets. It even helped elect Obama as he stayed away from it while McCain ran slobbering towards it. But it passed despite my best efforts with my stupid RINO congressman.

It is not even remotely possible to win against the even stronger forces who will push a bad bill with the same notion as TARP: pass this or the economy gets killed. For those who say we need a R leader who will scream and fight, consider what Obama's media will say about the R party voting to crash the economy.

But there is the possibility of a negotiating strategy that would cause the D senate to cave when we get to the cliff. They are much more beholden to their corporate sponsors who lose large bonuses if we go over. Ideally, we want to go over the cliff and make them come crawling to us for a deal. One way to do that is to carefully consider all concrete legislation but hold the line on spending cuts and reform. I would not be pontificating about taxes when the media juggernaut will plainly win on that issue. Pick one or two winning issues and try to win the vote to kill the bad bill. Then maybe we'll get a better bill.

24 posted on 11/20/2012 6:06:58 PM PST by palmer (Jim, please bill me 50 cents for this completely useless post)
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To: INVAR

Just sounds to me like Boehner is working more closely with conservatives.
Which makes sense since there are more of them than before.


25 posted on 11/20/2012 6:09:15 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: what's up

well the first question is: “Which side of the fight is he going to fight for?”

If he is going to fight for conservative principles....why are conservative members being pushed to the back of the bus?


26 posted on 11/20/2012 6:10:46 PM PST by old curmudgeon
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To: what's up

As a fellow 98er can you say with a straight face that you believe, in light of Bohner and the GOP’s history of running in circles with their hair on fire, while simultaneously blaming conservatives for the blaze, that he/they will unite behind anything you or I want?

Half the GOP ‘stalwart’ govs are already making capitualtion noises on Obamacare, Boh himself already threw the towel in.

Congress holds the purse. Period. Bohner could have defunded Obama’s insanity at any time. Period.

He has not. Period.

But for every thing he stands tall on, he gives twice as much away. Now tell me how that is either leadership or a winning strategy. Tell me if thats what you want in a ‘Republican’. Because if after all these years you do, you are in the wrong place.


27 posted on 11/20/2012 6:14:28 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: what's up
Why is this "war" exactly?

Well it's not war. These guys like to dramatize routine crap like this. Boehner is just doing what all House leaders do. Nothing new. Nothing radical. If conservative House members can not stand up to Boehner and replace him then they sure as hell can't stand up to democrats.

Look at the states represented by the House leadership - Ohio, VA, WA. Did any of those states vote for Romney? Hell no. Romney was from MA FCOL! Nothing against those blue & purple States specifically but why aren't House members in the Red States revolting against these assholes? It is easy to just make scapegoats out of idiots like Boehner but the problem is much wider and deeper.

Cantor last week delivered the speech nominating Boehner to be Speaker while Boehner nominated the Virginia Republican for majority leader.
Both Boehner and Cantor ran unopposed

Well there's your problem.

28 posted on 11/20/2012 6:15:15 PM PST by plain talk
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To: old curmudgeon
why are conservative members being pushed to the back of the bus?

Boehner's bringing Ryan on to the negotiating team. Ryan now serves as budget Chair and will continue in that vital role.

How is this pushing conservatives to the back of the bus?

29 posted on 11/20/2012 6:16:47 PM PST by what's up
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To: what's up

The upcoming fight (taxes, spending, continued government expansion) will be very difficult but we have a chance with a strategy that, in part, plays to the media. There is no question the media will side with Obama, but we should not make it easy for them by making it a personal vendetta against the election results. An angry bitter sounding leader (like some here seem to want) would be rather useless against Obama who will try to look the opposite with help from the media.


30 posted on 11/20/2012 6:17:20 PM PST by palmer (Jim, please bill me 50 cents for this completely useless post)
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To: plain talk
If conservative House members can not stand up to Boehner and replace him

Boehner has no challenge as Speaker.

The truth is, he is widely respected among House members. Although the MSM will never tell you that.

31 posted on 11/20/2012 6:18:51 PM PST by what's up
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To: INVAR

Boners a weepy stump. GOPe knows how to pick em ay?


32 posted on 11/20/2012 6:21:32 PM PST by tflabo
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To: mrsmith
What planet are you on?

From Horowitz' analysis:

[Boehner] moved to crush any organized conservative opposition through the Republican Study Committee by helping install Steve Scalise as chairman. Scalise has committed to working closely with leadership at a time when leadership has committed to banishing conservatives from all levers of power.

When you step back and reflect on these hardball tactics of the Speaker, it is tough to overlook the irony behind his ultimate motivation. Boehner is employing scorch-the-earth tactics against conservatives……so he can have free rein in capitulating to Democrats on a laundry list of policy items.

Boehner and the GOP are as much, if not a more pressing danger to Conservatives and Conservatism than anything Obama and the Marxist Democrats pose to us.

If Conservatives do not divorce themselves from the GOP, this Ruling Class cabal in league with Obama and the Marxists will render Conservatism extinct. THAT is their apparent goal. Boehner and Obama share a common enemy: Conservatives.

So they are waging political war to marginalize, punish and otherwise make it impossible for Conservatives to have a voice in what goes in in D.C.

33 posted on 11/20/2012 6:21:33 PM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Norm Lenhart
that he/they will unite behind anything you or I want?

Last time we didn't get tax hikes. I think that is what you and I want.

We may not get it all. But we will get some of what we want.

I still don't know why you think trying to get unity for negotiations is a stupid thing.

34 posted on 11/20/2012 6:22:42 PM PST by what's up
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To: INVAR

Forget it Invar. FR is infested with GOP lackeys who are on a mission to 1984 reality.

History, facts and their own lying eyes mean nothing.


35 posted on 11/20/2012 6:23:53 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: INVAR

I never trusted Boehner . now this.


36 posted on 11/20/2012 6:24:30 PM PST by sirjohn
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To: what's up

I note you ignored the fact that he has not exercized his authority to shut Obama down.

I also note you ignore everything he gave away. And we are about to lose that temp reprive on taxes. In case you haven’t noticed.

But you just keep right on rah rahing those that are the problem. Make sure to vote more in too. And remember, hold their feet to the fire!!!


37 posted on 11/20/2012 6:27:12 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: what's up

>> But I do know he didn’t cave last time:

That’s nice.

How do you explain the breathtaking stupidity of the “debt deal” Boner DID go along with?


38 posted on 11/20/2012 6:28:50 PM PST by Nervous Tick ("You can ignore reality, but you can't ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.")
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To: INVAR
If Conservatives do not divorce themselves from the GOP, this Ruling Class cabal in league with Obama and the Marxists will render Conservatism extinct.

I can't follow that logic, but let me ask you this: what is your plan? A third party for conservatives? If so, then oppose Boehner and split the conservatives away from the RINO party. We won't have enough power now to win anything, but it won't matter when the economy finally succumbs to the massive federal debt, tax increases, Obamacare, etc. At that point we will win elections with conservatives only nominally part of the R party if at all.

Another possibility is that you want to conservatize the R party but basically keep it. We will lose to the Obama media juggernaut now, and uncertain what would happen in the long run.

I can't I have any better plan, I would like to keep the R/RINO party as unified as possible while swapping out RINOs in the primaries as much as possible. I also want to try to keep the worst of Obama's legislation from passing and I can't think of any other way than relying on RINOs.

39 posted on 11/20/2012 6:32:01 PM PST by palmer (Jim, please bill me 50 cents for this completely useless post)
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To: Norm Lenhart
And we are about to lose that temp reprive on taxes,

This remains to be seen. If all taxes go up because the Speaker refuses to raise them on the rich (we go over the cliff), many conservatives would view this as not compromising and a good thing.

40 posted on 11/20/2012 6:32:22 PM PST by what's up
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To: INVAR

I guess “getting a grip” on the House Repubicans is all he can do, since there’s nothing on which to get a grip in his groin area!


41 posted on 11/20/2012 6:34:25 PM PST by vette6387
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To: palmer

So you want to keep doing the same thing we have been and think it’s a winning strategy. Got it.

Tell President McCain and President Romney they have my thanks.


42 posted on 11/20/2012 6:34:41 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Nervous Tick
How do you explain the breathtaking stupidity of the “debt deal”

That came about only because Boehner refused to raise taxes.

As a result the budget got cut.

43 posted on 11/20/2012 6:34:41 PM PST by what's up
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To: what's up

So you are OK with raising them on the rich?

Here’s your OWS sign.


44 posted on 11/20/2012 6:36:32 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: skeeter

“Boehner is not much better than a democrat.”

Oh yes he is, because he’s supposedly the “leader” of the opposition party!


45 posted on 11/20/2012 6:36:32 PM PST by vette6387
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To: Norm Lenhart
So you are OK with raising them on the rich?

Why on earth do you say that?

46 posted on 11/20/2012 6:37:29 PM PST by what's up
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To: what's up

WHAT “Budget?

Hasn’t been one since 2009.


47 posted on 11/20/2012 6:37:52 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

Although Congress holds the purse...doesn’t the Senate and ultimately the president have to sign off?


48 posted on 11/20/2012 6:39:32 PM PST by berdie
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To: Norm Lenhart
There's a vast difference between losing an election (getting outspent) and losing to Obama in the legislative process. Boehner has to balance the media depiction of his negotiating stance (public phrasing) against a private resolve to get a good deal and keep his House "no" vote intact.

Think of it this way, if TARP were a referendum in 2008 it would have lost 90 to 10. Instead we got TARP and Obama thanks to McCain running back to pass it while Obama cold shouldered it. If we allow Obama the same dynamics as TARP (i.e. if we don't pass some Obamacrap legislation the economy will die) then we will lose another house vote just like TARP.

49 posted on 11/20/2012 6:40:51 PM PST by palmer (Jim, please bill me 50 cents for this completely useless post)
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To: INVAR

If the GOP can’t flush this turd down the drain, its time for all conservatives to leave the GOP.

This character contributed to GOP losses in Congress with his pandering to the Dems throughout the fiscal crisis negotiations in the last session and is prepared to expand his damage in the new session.

I can not support any Republican Candidate - ANY Republican candidate - as long as this Quisling holds his title in the House.


50 posted on 11/20/2012 6:40:59 PM PST by ZULU (See video: http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2012/09/the-first-siege-of-vienna.html)
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