Posted on 11/20/2012 8:32:45 PM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
When last we left Dean Chambers, the Duffield, Va., resident was licking his wounds in Virginia’s coal fields, trying to figure out how he’d fooled himself and much of a nation into believing the Mitt Romney would win the election.
Chambers, 45, the founder of UnskewedPolls.com, ultimately decided he had incorrectly forecast that too few Democrats would vote. He admitted this mistake. Now, it appears he’s reconsidering.
Recently he launched a new website, BarackOFraudo.com. It seeks to understand how four states that he had incorrectly predicted would go to Romney — Virginia, Ohio, Florida and Pennsylvania — actually went to Obama.
He’s decided that was due to voter suppression and yes, voter fraud:
That millions of potential Republican voters, that vote for McCain in 2008 while far less enthused about doing so, did not turn out to vote for Romney in 2012 clearly proves the voter suppression campaign waged by the mainstream media and to some extent by the Democrat Party, worked quite well.
While the overall strategy was voter suppression, it is clear from viewing these stats that boosting the turnout in key swing states (the ones in yellow above) was taking place as well.
Without further or more detailed proof, there is objectively two ways to increase voter turnout on the side of those supporting Obama, as it clearly did happen in some key swing states: either get more real people out to vote who will vote for Obama, or stuff the ballot boxes and engage in a variety of vote fraud and vote scamming methods. Odds are quite likely, to maximize their odds of succeeding in getting President Obama elected, that they engaged in all of the above to make it happen.
I wrote a column about Chambers the Sunday after the election, when it appeared he was taking stock of the problem with believing the “news” he had created. Then, he was coming around to the idea that he’d been helping the emperor pick out his new clothes.
But Chambers seems to have switched horses, and is now arguing that he wasn’t wrong — that suppression and fraud handed the president a win.
The chief danger here is that he’ll fool himself — and others — again, which will not serve GOP interests in future elections.
On the other hand, he made some good money “unskewing” those polls and fooling Republicans before. Perhaps he’s simply up to his old tricks again, and writing stuff he knows people want to hear.
Ping.
Still in denial phase.
Bump!
My exact same thoughts! Love the poster.
The only way now to validate all the claims here that most of the polls showing Romney losing were wrong and oversampled Dems, that those claims were actually right is to cry ‘massive fraud’.
Obviously the honest pollsters who predicted that Romney would win couldn’t anticipate voter fraud at these levels.
Sorry. I refuse to keep my ‘stolen election’ theories to myself. You forgot who’s in the WH.. You know, the one with the stolen birth certificate, stolen social security numbers and proven forged selective service card? You know, the one who took an oath to uphold and defend our Constitution then openly stated he refused to enforce DOMA and signs away our sovereignty to the U.N.? Nahhhh.. No reason to think he’d lie or cheat. None whatsoever. /s You know what’s worse than whackos with their ‘stolen election’ theories? People who ascribe traditionally American ethics and standards to a foreign usurper who took office illegally for the purpose of transforming our free-market, capitalist Republic into a Socialist Dictatorship.
FACT:No political party or candidate in this country incapable of competently closing the sale with the electorate -- after a six-year-long, non-stop effort, and nearly a billion dollars in loose sofa change -- has ever gone on to miraculously win the office of the Presidency in its final two or three weeks of campaigning, as Team Mittens' hopeful supplicants were busily selling here, daily, en masse.
FACT: Pappy Bush (CINO) lost re-election. Dole (CINO) lost, period. McCain (CINO) lost, period. Romney (CINO) lost, period.
FACT: Albert Einstein's definition of insanity ("[D]oing the same thing over and over again, and expecting different results.") remains verifiable and unwinkable f-a-c-t.
That's the facts on the ground, right here, right now.
That's RealVille.
Good luck with whatever it is you've decided to use, however, as a budget substitute.
...and all those facts kept Mittens from testing the three percent margin the GOP has known for decades they have to have to keep the RATS from stealing an election. FACT!
But he was also a living caricature of how Dems portray Republicans: Super rich, out of touch, elite, detached, only thinking of their rich elitist friends and pretty bland.
He was a perfect choice to help O get out the Dem vote and yes suppress some of the R vote.
If all we learn from this is that both the polls and the election were rigged (stolen) by O then we might as well just cancel the next election and join the food stamp Obama-care line,
I may be using your poster in #1.
Yup. "I expect that, in the end, they [socons] will fall in line -- where else are they going to go?" Ah, the natural, winning touch of a campaign being masterminded by freakin' political geniuses, huh...?
I may be using your poster in #1.
Go for it. ;)
Kent nails it with his post. First most of the polls were rigged to show Romney losing because they all oversampled Dems. We all knew that Dems wouldn't come out and vote for O, what a crazy thought. We knew this would be easy election. Everyone loved Romney
Then when it turns out that the Dems DID come out and vote its gotta be fraud. They never would come out and vote for Obama. NO-NO-NO!
Fraud is the only explanation. Proof? We don't need no stinkin proof.
We did everything right. Lets do it again in 2016. How about Christie?
In the eyes of his shriller, more spittle-fueled adherents and apologists hereabouts, you see, Mittens is much like a cow wandering placidly through the streets of downtown Cairo: immune to any/all criticism and/or impediment by divine principle, if not an object of abject veneration outright.
The cow is holy. The cow is perfect. If the cow, for whatever reason(s) -- by whatever unguessable confluence of events, in the course of its dull, plodding amblings -- doesn't end up wherever the hell it was it wanted to go to in the first place: that's absolutely and unalterably your fault, buddy -- NOT the cow's.
The CINOs neither can nor will admit -- now or EVER -- that their rote, repeatedly failed p!ss-on-the-base-and-grovel-for-disaffected-liberals campaign strategy is what's genuinely at fault, for the second presidential election in a row.
The cow is holy.
The cow is perfect.
... and thus, predictably: the cow is now last week's hamburger. ;)
Here's the formula in my meager, layman's terms.. LOL
INTENSELY MOTIVATED voters for Romney + DISILLUSIONED former 0bama supporters who will stay home and not vote = Romney/Ryan LANDSLIDE.
This is a contrast in motivation versus disillusion and disappointment. As the election draws nearer, Undecideds will go for Romney..
71 posted on Wednesday, October 17, 2012 1:45:20 PM by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
So of course as Obama_Is says, it must have been fraud. Obama_Is could not have been this wrong. Obviously Dems stayed home and committed voter fraud instead of voting.
104%-140% turnout in several Colorado and Ohio precincts...
Precinct 93 in St. Lucie County, Florida, containing but seven (7) registered voters yet yielding 900 ballots...
Several precincts in Cleveland, OH, voting for Obama 100% (not 87%, not 93%)...
Obama getting 99%-100% of the vote in all of those Philadelphia precincts where the powers that be gave GOP poll watchers the old heave-ho...
Evaluate the panoply of facts against the backdrop of a staggering economy, the fact that nothing in Obama's job performance warranted re-election, the lack of enthusiasm amongst his base, the fact that the only thing he's ever succeeded at in his career is winning elections, and the fact that he and his people have had four years to rig this thing in their favor.
It's a no-brainer. Our tactics and strategery must change dramatically. We cannot win ever again playing "by the rules".
Dude, I've lost everything I own. Literally. My family. My automobile. My income. Everything. I'm just one of millions living this misery.
Sacking up like reasonably intelligent adults and honestly appraising the near-infinitude of missteps characterizing the slow-motion pratfall that was Team Romney amateurish campaign is nowhere nearly as much fun, certainly, as running around and shouting "ba-DOW! ba-DOW!" at shadowy enemies, like so many children playing "G.I. Joe vs. COBRA," must be... but: it's considerably more constructive in the long run, methinks.
Mittens' wholly predictable (and predicted) loss to Herr Zero has driven a significant number of formerly more-or-less sane Republicans full-bore, weapons-grade conspiracy theory batsqueak I-N-S-A-N-E.
... and it's because I truly, honestly, for realsies and no foolin' genuinely sympathize with you -- both in the abstract, as a human being; and more directly, as a fellow FReeper -- that I counsel as earnestly and emphatically as I conceivably can:
The only even remotely possible way for us to get our blamed country (and any/all ancillary losses) rightfully back in our possession is to face the GOP-e's serial fumbles and miscues squarely, without blinking; and adamantly refuse to allow ourselves to be gulled, conned or distracted by conspiracy theorizing and other paranoid ditherings.
One's comparatively easy, and doesn't actually require any of the hard, unglamorous day-to-day work necessitated on the ground, over a period of years, at the grass roots level.
The other one's harder, granted... but: it has a demonstrable, independently verifiable history of actually working. ;)
Maybe some Republicans never came out to vote for Romney:
Romney won't get my vote, that's for sure. I am decided, and even hardened in this position by those who say things like, “I'll walk over broken glass to vote for this guy” or “a second Obama term will destroy America.”
Folks, I've got news for you: America has already been destroyed. We're not going to take it back through peaceable, comfortable means. We're well beyond that. God is going to kick our asses and drive us to our knees before we will again taste of any semblance of the America we once knew and loved. It's going to be a tough road, and we need to be ready both physically and spiritually.
181 posted on Thursday, March 29, 2012 9:40:29 PM by Lexinom (Mitt < 1,144)
Your thread is like a mousetrap :)
That comparison is entirely and unconscionably unfair.
To mice. ;)
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