Skip to comments.The ‘Unskewed Polls’ guy who fooled a nation tries again [Grifter Not Quite Done Grifting Yet]
Posted on 11/20/2012 8:32:45 PM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
When last we left Dean Chambers, the Duffield, Va., resident was licking his wounds in Virginias coal fields, trying to figure out how hed fooled himself and much of a nation into believing the Mitt Romney would win the election.
Chambers, 45, the founder of UnskewedPolls.com, ultimately decided he had incorrectly forecast that too few Democrats would vote. He admitted this mistake. Now, it appears hes reconsidering.
Recently he launched a new website, BarackOFraudo.com. It seeks to understand how four states that he had incorrectly predicted would go to Romney Virginia, Ohio, Florida and Pennsylvania actually went to Obama.
Hes decided that was due to voter suppression and yes, voter fraud:
That millions of potential Republican voters, that vote for McCain in 2008 while far less enthused about doing so, did not turn out to vote for Romney in 2012 clearly proves the voter suppression campaign waged by the mainstream media and to some extent by the Democrat Party, worked quite well.
While the overall strategy was voter suppression, it is clear from viewing these stats that boosting the turnout in key swing states (the ones in yellow above) was taking place as well.
Without further or more detailed proof, there is objectively two ways to increase voter turnout on the side of those supporting Obama, as it clearly did happen in some key swing states: either get more real people out to vote who will vote for Obama, or stuff the ballot boxes and engage in a variety of vote fraud and vote scamming methods. Odds are quite likely, to maximize their odds of succeeding in getting President Obama elected, that they engaged in all of the above to make it happen.
I wrote a column about Chambers the Sunday after the election, when it appeared he was taking stock of the problem with believing the news he had created. Then, he was coming around to the idea that hed been helping the emperor pick out his new clothes.
But Chambers seems to have switched horses, and is now arguing that he wasnt wrong that suppression and fraud handed the president a win.
The chief danger here is that hell fool himself and others again, which will not serve GOP interests in future elections.
On the other hand, he made some good money unskewing those polls and fooling Republicans before. Perhaps hes simply up to his old tricks again, and writing stuff he knows people want to hear.
Still in denial phase.
My exact same thoughts! Love the poster.
The only way now to validate all the claims here that most of the polls showing Romney losing were wrong and oversampled Dems, that those claims were actually right is to cry ‘massive fraud’.
Obviously the honest pollsters who predicted that Romney would win couldn’t anticipate voter fraud at these levels.
Sorry. I refuse to keep my ‘stolen election’ theories to myself. You forgot who’s in the WH.. You know, the one with the stolen birth certificate, stolen social security numbers and proven forged selective service card? You know, the one who took an oath to uphold and defend our Constitution then openly stated he refused to enforce DOMA and signs away our sovereignty to the U.N.? Nahhhh.. No reason to think he’d lie or cheat. None whatsoever. /s You know what’s worse than whackos with their ‘stolen election’ theories? People who ascribe traditionally American ethics and standards to a foreign usurper who took office illegally for the purpose of transforming our free-market, capitalist Republic into a Socialist Dictatorship.
FACT:No political party or candidate in this country incapable of competently closing the sale with the electorate -- after a six-year-long, non-stop effort, and nearly a billion dollars in loose sofa change -- has ever gone on to miraculously win the office of the Presidency in its final two or three weeks of campaigning, as Team Mittens' hopeful supplicants were busily selling here, daily, en masse.
FACT: Pappy Bush (CINO) lost re-election. Dole (CINO) lost, period. McCain (CINO) lost, period. Romney (CINO) lost, period.
FACT: Albert Einstein's definition of insanity ("[D]oing the same thing over and over again, and expecting different results.") remains verifiable and unwinkable f-a-c-t.
That's the facts on the ground, right here, right now.
Good luck with whatever it is you've decided to use, however, as a budget substitute.
...and all those facts kept Mittens from testing the three percent margin the GOP has known for decades they have to have to keep the RATS from stealing an election. FACT!
But he was also a living caricature of how Dems portray Republicans: Super rich, out of touch, elite, detached, only thinking of their rich elitist friends and pretty bland.
He was a perfect choice to help O get out the Dem vote and yes suppress some of the R vote.
If all we learn from this is that both the polls and the election were rigged (stolen) by O then we might as well just cancel the next election and join the food stamp Obama-care line,
I may be using your poster in #1.
Yup. "I expect that, in the end, they [socons] will fall in line -- where else are they going to go?" Ah, the natural, winning touch of a campaign being masterminded by freakin' political geniuses, huh...?
I may be using your poster in #1.
Go for it. ;)
Kent nails it with his post. First most of the polls were rigged to show Romney losing because they all oversampled Dems. We all knew that Dems wouldn't come out and vote for O, what a crazy thought. We knew this would be easy election. Everyone loved Romney
Then when it turns out that the Dems DID come out and vote its gotta be fraud. They never would come out and vote for Obama. NO-NO-NO!
Fraud is the only explanation. Proof? We don't need no stinkin proof.
We did everything right. Lets do it again in 2016. How about Christie?
In the eyes of his shriller, more spittle-fueled adherents and apologists hereabouts, you see, Mittens is much like a cow wandering placidly through the streets of downtown Cairo: immune to any/all criticism and/or impediment by divine principle, if not an object of abject veneration outright.
The cow is holy. The cow is perfect. If the cow, for whatever reason(s) -- by whatever unguessable confluence of events, in the course of its dull, plodding amblings -- doesn't end up wherever the hell it was it wanted to go to in the first place: that's absolutely and unalterably your fault, buddy -- NOT the cow's.
The CINOs neither can nor will admit -- now or EVER -- that their rote, repeatedly failed p!ss-on-the-base-and-grovel-for-disaffected-liberals campaign strategy is what's genuinely at fault, for the second presidential election in a row.
The cow is holy.
The cow is perfect.
... and thus, predictably: the cow is now last week's hamburger. ;)
Here's the formula in my meager, layman's terms.. LOL
INTENSELY MOTIVATED voters for Romney + DISILLUSIONED former 0bama supporters who will stay home and not vote = Romney/Ryan LANDSLIDE.
This is a contrast in motivation versus disillusion and disappointment. As the election draws nearer, Undecideds will go for Romney..
71 posted on Wednesday, October 17, 2012 1:45:20 PM by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
So of course as Obama_Is says, it must have been fraud. Obama_Is could not have been this wrong. Obviously Dems stayed home and committed voter fraud instead of voting.
104%-140% turnout in several Colorado and Ohio precincts...
Precinct 93 in St. Lucie County, Florida, containing but seven (7) registered voters yet yielding 900 ballots...
Several precincts in Cleveland, OH, voting for Obama 100% (not 87%, not 93%)...
Obama getting 99%-100% of the vote in all of those Philadelphia precincts where the powers that be gave GOP poll watchers the old heave-ho...
Evaluate the panoply of facts against the backdrop of a staggering economy, the fact that nothing in Obama's job performance warranted re-election, the lack of enthusiasm amongst his base, the fact that the only thing he's ever succeeded at in his career is winning elections, and the fact that he and his people have had four years to rig this thing in their favor.
It's a no-brainer. Our tactics and strategery must change dramatically. We cannot win ever again playing "by the rules".
Dude, I've lost everything I own. Literally. My family. My automobile. My income. Everything. I'm just one of millions living this misery.
Sacking up like reasonably intelligent adults and honestly appraising the near-infinitude of missteps characterizing the slow-motion pratfall that was Team Romney amateurish campaign is nowhere nearly as much fun, certainly, as running around and shouting "ba-DOW! ba-DOW!" at shadowy enemies, like so many children playing "G.I. Joe vs. COBRA," must be... but: it's considerably more constructive in the long run, methinks.
Mittens' wholly predictable (and predicted) loss to Herr Zero has driven a significant number of formerly more-or-less sane Republicans full-bore, weapons-grade conspiracy theory batsqueak I-N-S-A-N-E.
... and it's because I truly, honestly, for realsies and no foolin' genuinely sympathize with you -- both in the abstract, as a human being; and more directly, as a fellow FReeper -- that I counsel as earnestly and emphatically as I conceivably can:
The only even remotely possible way for us to get our blamed country (and any/all ancillary losses) rightfully back in our possession is to face the GOP-e's serial fumbles and miscues squarely, without blinking; and adamantly refuse to allow ourselves to be gulled, conned or distracted by conspiracy theorizing and other paranoid ditherings.
One's comparatively easy, and doesn't actually require any of the hard, unglamorous day-to-day work necessitated on the ground, over a period of years, at the grass roots level.
The other one's harder, granted... but: it has a demonstrable, independently verifiable history of actually working. ;)
Maybe some Republicans never came out to vote for Romney:
Romney won't get my vote, that's for sure. I am decided, and even hardened in this position by those who say things like, “I'll walk over broken glass to vote for this guy” or “a second Obama term will destroy America.”
Folks, I've got news for you: America has already been destroyed. We're not going to take it back through peaceable, comfortable means. We're well beyond that. God is going to kick our asses and drive us to our knees before we will again taste of any semblance of the America we once knew and loved. It's going to be a tough road, and we need to be ready both physically and spiritually.
181 posted on Thursday, March 29, 2012 9:40:29 PM by Lexinom (Mitt < 1,144)
Your thread is like a mousetrap :)
That comparison is entirely and unconscionably unfair.
To mice. ;)
Now if we could just get the 0bamamedia to expose the rampant wave of voter fraud organized by Soros, Axelrod, 0bama and his unions, his black panthers, his ACORN and his U.N. insurgents, we'd learn 0bama stole this election. But they're too busy digging deep into who authorized Fast & Furious, the money laundering at Solyndra, and who denied security and a rescue in Benghazi that there simply isn't enough time for exposing his theft of an election.
By the way, stealing an election doesn't involve voters as much as it does the UNION/LEFTIST HACK poll workers (who can destroy ballots and tamper with electronic voting machines), and the vote COUNTERS so your last comment is totally unfounded.
Remember passage of the 0bamacare Bill? The bribery, theft of a House Bill that was gutted.. Midnight and weekend voting.. Extortion, LIES, DECEIT and the bastardization of the entire process? WELCOME TO LIBERAL CHEATVILLE.
Yes, and just as you predicted that landslide for Romney because Democrats, blacks, Hispanics, etc, were going to stay home, and refuse to vote while Republicans were super enthused about Romney, it made perfect sense for Dems to rig all the polls (except that one above) ahead of time to show O winning, just to cover their tracks when they won. After all as you predicted, Romney won in a landslide but now he lost just as the rigged polls predicted he would.
Those Dems are absolutely diabolical and all powerful to be able to pull off turning a landslide into a defeat while rigging all the polls.
Maybe now the only option for you is to end it all now that you realize that there is no hope against a power so absolute as you describe,
Since you 'get off' on re-posting my comments for pinging to others, how about if I make yours blink? You like that? Thought you would..
"Rigging ALL the polls?" NO. How about just enough in ONLY the Swing States where it mattered? Is that a bit more plausible for you now? Sure it is. "Rigging all the POLLS?" YES. ABSOLUTELY. And how about some vote count trickery? That'll work too.
"..the only option for you is to end it all.." I don't think like you do. That's YOUR thought not mine. Perhaps you STOP beating upon your teammates and take your hostilities to the opposition.. Oh wait.. You ARE the opposition or you wouldn't be goading me like this.
I'm done with this back-and-forth.. No sense reminding you of the 'Affordable Care Act' and those dark days leading to its passage. You either don't remember or weren't following it. You just go ahead and believe Democrats don't cheat. You go ahead and believe that..
Insane is believing elections are honest.
Stand up folks and take a bough.
Quoth Josef Stalin:
“Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything.”
Fine. Then, by that knock-kneed "logic": it shouldn't matter one whit whom we nominate in 2016, or how conservative they are; and, therefore, we can run Sarah Palin, or Allen West, or anybody the conservative voting base damned well wants, with no b!tching or kvetching from the party's squishy, socially liberal "moderates" and suchlike... right?
Sit down, peewee, and take some spelling lessons.
It isn't all sexy and espionage-y, and all that breathy, paranoiac sort of online juvenilia... but, on the plus side: it's genuinely accurate.
What a hilarious choice of words, given Bobo hasn't presented a budget in a coon's age.
By the way, your quest for a new Derangement? Not flattering...
... which has nothing whatsoever to do with me, demonstrably. Swing and a miss.
By the way, your quest for a new Derangement? Not flattering...
Why on earth would I need to "search for a new Derangement [sic]," for heaven's sake? It's on full and unpleasantly revealing display, here on this very site, as essayed by a small, gibbering clot of ineffectual paranoiacs who've somehow managed to confuse posting the online equivalent of "ba-DOW! ba-DOW!" with credible post-election analysis.
Do, by all means, enjoy watching Jebbie and/or Christie gracefully conceding to Hillary come election night 2016, should those hapless, howling slack-jaws and fumble-wits manage to get their way once more, however.
I don't mind if any of Silver's former (or, Lord help us all, current) fannish cargo cult ultimately decide to cast him as Part and Parcel of the Great and Awful Anti-Mittens Campaign Swindle -- he is, IMHO, a peculiarly bumbling and inelegant confidence trickster; thus deserving conservatives' scorn, and little else -- but: they are going to have to deal with his own highly public record of hugely inappropriate burblings (such as the example posted, directly above), somewhere along the way.
FOX showed a segment where they were touting Chris Christie as the next candidate for president in 2016. I almost threw a chair through the TV.
And leaves even less. ;)
Seen on another forum, regarding the interesting case of Wisconsin:
voter fraud has been a Chicago tradition
the fraud existing in the swing states is well documented
why do we put up with this?
this need to be put forward to invalidate the “one”
why would somebody move to Chicago to start their political
career if they had honest intentions?
>>Sorry. I refuse to keep my stolen election theories to myself.
Thank you for having the courage to think for yourself, stand up for what you believe, and say what you observe - even if it’s not what the “everybody” else is saying. There are too few people in this country willing to do that. And THAT is why we lost the election.
Everybody knows that 0bama is cool.
Everybody knows that voting against 0bama is racist.
Everybody knows that 0bama was born in Hawaii.
Everybody knows that 0bama is legally qualified to be President.
Everybody knows that 0bama is soooooo smart.
Let’s just all move along, shall we? If you don’t agree you are a crazy, whacko, conspiracy nut.
My personal opinion is that the election tally is like the birth certificate. 0bama may or may not have legally won and he may or may not have been born when and where he says, but in both cases there is something seriously wrong. I know that Democrats commit voter fraud. I’ve seen blatantly illegal actions at the polls with my own eyes and then I’ve seen the thuggish attempts to lie about it and destroy the evidence that it happened. I’ve also seen the fake BC posted online.
The voter fraud doesn’t prove he lost, but a sane person must question the actual numbers. The fake BC doesn’t prove he was born in Kenya, but a sane person must question what it is he is hiding by posting a fake.
It is possible for the points you posted to be true and at the same time it is possible that the Democrats committed massive voter fraud. These are not incompatible facts.
Using Alinsky tactics (graphics which mock their views and opinions) against fellow Conservatives who present views which differ from yours does not help us. It only divides us and helps the socialists. I would respectfully ask you to reserve mockery for the socialists/marxists/liberals/progressives.
When one of our own makes statements I disagree with, I prefer to engage respectfully and with facts.
Whether the amount of voter fraud they committed was enough to swing the election is in question, but the fact that they committed it is, for most of us, not in dispute.
I just don't have the time... the patience... or even the baseline interest in dealing "courteously" with that sort of protracted online drooling any longer.
My suggestion, re: your evident dilemna: learn a good coping mechanism.
They punked you pretty bad, didn’t they?
“Even though he hit me this election,he said he wouldn’t hit me next election. I love my voting system and want to believe him.”
You’re so p0wn3d.
Swing and a miss, kiddo.
It’s the look of total resignation on the cat’s face that makes that pic.
After some of the mouth breathers I've had flailing ineffectually at me this morning, all knees and elbows and tell-tale juice box breath: I'm beginning to realize exactly how he feels. ;)
They’ll own you next “election”, too, little one. :-)
Is that what the voices keep telling you, pookums...? ;)
I’ve been studying it since the 2000 “election”, and I’ve think I’ve got it pretty much figured out.
n00bi3s like Kent are still trying to wrap their mind around it.
You have to forgive him - he still isn’t bright enough to move out of Washington state, which kind of tells you where he’s at. “Stockholm syndrome”, I believe they call it.
You're funny. I guess it isn't rape, if you've actually convinced yourself it isn't rape...