Posted on 11/21/2012 3:13:08 AM PST by IbJensen
Folks wobbly on abortion get zotted here
Read Jims mission statement
Just saying
Yer too smart for me to follow Cronos
Sometimes i need things in simpler terms
We southern Baptists being literal and all
We aren’t very ambiguous or nuanced over abortion
In fact my home state has the fewest abortion mills of any state
They fluctuate between none and one
I was however intuitive in my surmising of your fellow traveler on this thread and his wobbly stance on banning infanticide
Of course they did - - the Democrat party is the party of faggots, atheists, abortion enthusiasts, union pinky rings, condom-throwers, Boy Scout haters, hand-wringing college professors, Georgetown sluts, Hollywood drunks, America-hating malcontents, the minority "victim" classes, and your garden variety moochers, deadbeats, parasites, and goofballs.
Homosexuals certainly aren't about to vote with normal, taxpaying, traditional American families ("Republicans").
What are you talking about? I am unequivocally saying "Abortion is evil" any and all kinds.
My point is simple -- we take one small step on the slippery slope and soon we end up down
Take "gay rights" -- in 1960 in most countries this was illegal, but by 1989 civil unions were allowed in the Netherlands and soon "gay marriage" is to be allowed in most places - heck, the US will even persecute countries that don't give "gay rights" and soon it will be illegal to NOT allow a gay marriage in your Southern Baptist Church (that's what happened in Denmark in theDanish lutheran Church)
It's the same with abortion, govt sponsored euthanasia etc -- we started this by allowing government to set terms of medical care.
but, CC, abortion is to be banned based on the simple reason that murder is banned
Murder is isin. Being gay, is sin. We were given the laws by God, our creator, The government is constantly trying to reinvent the wheel, put there ugly stinking feet in my face. We as people need to promote morality and ethics, practice it, teach it. Laws don’t make people moral. The lousey government does not make people moral, they are the most immoral bunch. More laws are not going to fix stupid, they only make it worse. I am anti gay marriage, but I don’t feel that my government should be wasting time and tax dollars on it. This country is going to $#%!, partly because we have lost sight of what our government was established for. We have voted into place over the years, power mongers, nannies, that are not concerned with me or you. I am not wobbly on abortion or anything else that is morally or ethically wrong in my own heart.. People will eventually pay for their sins, judgement comes for all us. I want the goverment out of my house.
...you left out Communists. :-)
... and Methodists!
We have and need plenty of government interference in things that need interfering with like killing babies en utero or beating your wife or molesting children.
Simply being against government interference period is nuts.
Why have government then?
no..if you dig deeper you find folks who toss out such canards are actually not much on culture war and don't think abortion is much of an issue anyhow
at least that is what I've seen usually here in my 12 years
you are either for abortion or not...flowering it all up with libertarian doublespeak doesn;t change it
and speaking of liberty, you would have been hard pressed to find a founder who was in favor of it..even with their primitive means of accomplishing it
therefore opposition to abortion is hardly indicative of the post Lincoln Leviathan that libertarians or government minimalists rail about
And why the worry with all the libertarian parsing over something that was illegal throughout our founding for the first 190 years and was only legal nationwide for 40 years.
It's not we are rolling back any of the original Bill of Rights.
We would simply be reversing bad law written to code by Blackmun’s poor use of right of privacy...akin to the same poor extrapolation as Robert's tax logic on national healthcare.
Not government interference can be used to excuse anything on the books no because by faulty doublespeak any change mandated is government interference.
Simply having Obamacare now has nothing to do with a preexisting bad law
what do folks like CC expect to happen?
God will swoop in and change the minds of murdering women?
lol...that is nuts
I personally don't think folks who opine from the perspectives I read here care much to be honest.
Leaving everything up to individual choice and behavior is risky business.
Think 4 year olds with loaded Uzis...arguing over cookies.
We have 1000s of years of self government in various forms for a reason, minimal government is a fine ideal but absence of government is foolish.
We would be ruled by thugs and morality would be determined by who had them
it's why we have laws
are you a libertarian Catholic?
that is kind of an oxymoron historically
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