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The Message Romney Missed
Townhall.com ^ | November 21, 2012 | Brent Bozell

Posted on 11/21/2012 6:23:35 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: Starboard

Without question Reagan would have had the same effect that he had in 1980, nobody knows the specifics of how he would have shaped his campaigned, but he would have defeated Jimmy Carter the II, and he would have helped the entire ticket, and would have educated the public while doing it.

Romney just can’t overcome being what he is, and people can see it in him.


21 posted on 11/21/2012 1:20:27 PM PST by ansel12 (The only Senate seat GOP pick up was the Palin endorsed Deb Fischer’s successful run in Nebraska)
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To: ansel12

Romney and a lot of the GOPe do not grasp that many of us are suck of the garbage:

1. Government abuse like war on drugs, TSA, NDAA, civil forfeiture laws, etc

2. Govt mandates

3. Meally mouthed political speak

Etc etc.

Romney cam across as just as big an advocate for big govt and intrusive govt as obama did with an unlikable way about him.


22 posted on 11/21/2012 1:25:57 PM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: Kaslin
A definite alternative idea that makes sense.

Bill Whittle "Where do we go now?" - YouTube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuL41ohlfZY

23 posted on 11/21/2012 1:27:30 PM PST by VideoDoctor
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To: cymbeline
I’m still sad that Romney won’t be our next president. He’d have been a great one. There were just too many handout recipients out there that voted for the Obama-mainstream-media team.

I disagree.

Romney is a degenerate liar and coward from a family of cowards that have avoided military service en masse for 170 years.

Thank God that blood sucking vampire is gone, he would have conspired with the communists in Congress to push an agenda of higher taxes and less freedoms, wouldn't have done a damn thing about the homosexual problem either.

24 posted on 11/21/2012 1:33:04 PM PST by Rome2000 (THE WASHINGTONIANS AND UNIVERSAL SUFFRAGE ARE THE ENEMY -ROTATE THE CAPITAL AMONGST THE STATES)
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To: ansel12

Reagan would have had a very steep hill to climb to get to his shining city. The country has changed dramatically in the last 30 years and it’s a totally different ball game. Obama is more than Jimmy Carter II; he is the magic negro and has an media propaganda machine and a visicous, if not lethal, political apparatus behind him. Bread and circuses are all that matters to most people nowadays. The public really doesn’t want to be educated; it just wants handouts.

And winning means more than just getting people to vote for you. It’s now all about manufacturing and counting the votes a la Stalin.

Reagan was a great man for the times. But the times they are a changin.


25 posted on 11/21/2012 1:38:06 PM PST by Starboard
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To: GlockThe Vote

The liberal Massachusetts governor was the least social conservative candidate in GOP history for sure.


26 posted on 11/21/2012 1:38:30 PM PST by ansel12 (The only Senate seat GOP pick up was the Palin endorsed Deb Fischer’s successful run in Nebraska)
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To: Rome2000

“Thank God that blood sucking vampire is gone,...”

No he isn’t! Obama was just re-elected, didn’t you hear?


27 posted on 11/21/2012 2:03:15 PM PST by IWONDR
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To: ansel12

I’m taling about civil liberties issues that the GOP is just as bad as the demos are lately. We are not even offering a choice anymore.


28 posted on 11/21/2012 2:41:19 PM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: Starboard

Reagan was a great man for anytime, as he proved every decade of his long life, from student politics in college to Hollywood and national politics of the 1940s, 1950s, 1960s, 1970, 1980s, and 1990s.

Romney never liked Reagan or his politics, was always against him and has smeared him since his death.

Romney has never been a great man, or had good politics or been successful at winning people over as a 20 year politician.

Reagan would have rolled over Carter the second, won the Senate and smashed the democrats.

America has changed to the degree that Reagan would not have been alone this time, this time Reagan would have the tea party and Sarah Palin, conservative media, the Congress, Governorships, state houses, talk radio, advantages that he didn’t have, and that Mitt largely rejected as they were the hated conservatives.


29 posted on 11/21/2012 5:23:19 PM PST by ansel12 (The only Senate seat GOP pick up was the Palin endorsed Deb Fischer’s successful run in Nebraska)
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To: ansel12

Reagan was principled and high minded (and I mean that as an admiring compliment) but that no longer sells in certain high population density areas of this country.

I was saddened to see the Tea Party marginalized and do think it could have energized more conservatives. But the stark political reality of today is that America is now a left-of-center country. Reagan’s vision would be a tough sell to the increasingly large number of Takers in our society.

Those people want a nanny state, and they want income redistribution. They could care less about individual liberty, personal freedom, or even upward mobility. Until that system breaks down (and it inevitably will) true conservatives are going to have strong political headwinds against them.


30 posted on 11/22/2012 6:45:26 AM PST by Starboard
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To: Starboard

Jeez give it rest and sell your rinoisms elsewhere, to someone else, the republicans ran a man who hated Reagan, hated conservatism, who gave us Obamacare and gay marriage, who is an incompetent, gaffe ridden politician and anti-Christian cult leader who ran AGAINST Reaganism and the tea party and lost, Reagan didn’t lose anything.

Reagan would have rolled over Obama and we would have the Senate, and America would be better educated on conservatism.

Reagan and Romney are the opposites. Reagan would have had it easier today, Romney has always been a loser.

This time Reagan would have the tea party and Sarah Palin, conservative media, the Congress, Governorships, state houses, talk radio, advantages that he didn’t have, and that Mitt largely rejected as they were the hated conservatives.


31 posted on 11/22/2012 9:31:29 AM PST by ansel12 (The only Senate seat GOP pick up was the Palin endorsed Deb Fischer’s successful run in Nebraska)
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To: ansel12

Jeez give it rest and sell your rinoisms elsewhere, to someone else
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Sounds like somebody is frustrated and can’t acknowledge that this is no longer a center right country. And you’re flat out wrong; I’m not selling rinoisms, only reluctantly recognizing the insidious inroads that liberalism has made and its effects on our national politics.

Just look at the major cultural, demographic and economic shifts since the prosperous Reagan era. What used to be the good ole US of A is gone, at least until there is an economic castrophe and the pendulum starts to swing the other way out of necessity and desperation.

Reagan was a great man, but being a conservative white man is now a liability and I don’t believe he could have won in this environment. Elvis was great too, but hip hop rules now.


32 posted on 11/23/2012 6:36:19 AM PST by Starboard
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To: Starboard

No, it is someone tired of romneybots using every approach they can to rationalize how such a lefty ever became the nominee, and them fighting to keep duplicating it.

Romney is no Reagan, he wasn’t even an adequate candidate, and no, 2004 is not the last presidential victory for the GOP.

Romney only won a single election in his entire life with less than 50%, and he was run out of that office with 34% approval, he is the bottom rung of politicians, and you compare him to Reagan, jeesh.


33 posted on 11/23/2012 9:39:29 AM PST by ansel12 (The only Senate seat GOP pick up was the Palin endorsed Deb Fischer’s successful run in Nebraska)
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To: ansel12

“and you compare him to Reagan, jeesh.”
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You are continually ignoring my points and worse, misreading my posts. In no post to you did I ever compare Reagan to Romney. That was not the theme of anything I said. Bye.


34 posted on 11/24/2012 10:33:45 AM PST by Starboard
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To: Starboard

I ignored nothing, you started out using Reagan and kept using Reagan throughout the thread.

You were trying to defend the anti-Reagan liberal Mitt’s loss, by claiming that even Reagan couldn’t have won.

Reagan would have easily won, any decent candidate would have.

Romney was a person who didn’t even belong in the party, a failed Massachusetts Governor, who left office with 34% approval, Obamacare and gay marriage as his only legacy.

What did a sane person expect.


35 posted on 11/24/2012 12:50:06 PM PST by ansel12 (The only Senate seat GOP pick up was the Palin endorsed Deb Fischer’s successful run in Nebraska)
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To: Kaslin
The Message Romney Missed

More like the voters were the ones that missed the message.

Romney promised to create jobs, jobs, jobs.
The left wings mooches took it as a threat.

Romney offered his assistance, it was turned down. He will now take his hundreds of millions and retire with a clear conscience. He doesn't need us, we needed him.

36 posted on 11/24/2012 5:25:16 PM PST by oldbrowser (Welcome to U.S.Zimbabwe)
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