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‘IRON DOME’ OVERWHELMED
Aviationintel ^

Posted on 11/21/2012 7:50:10 AM PST by chessplayer

Israel’s highly controversial and very expensive ‘Iron Dome’ rocket defense system is being tested by extremist militant groups to its very limits. At $65,000 per round to hard kill a $500 rocket, its one expensive piece of mind that Israel has a lot riding on. It would seem that the strategic goal is to make rocket launches a worthless and unacceptable risk with no reward to the terrorists that launch these terror weapons, as opposed to an affordable defense system intended for continuous and prolonged use.

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Heard on Fox a couple days ago that Iron Dome was beginning to show cracks. Palestinians would saturate an Iron Dome site with rockets and just overwhelm it. Just too much incoming stuff for it to cope with.
1 posted on 11/21/2012 7:50:15 AM PST by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

Hmmmm....

What would one pay to stop the bullet coming at their head?


2 posted on 11/21/2012 7:52:22 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: chessplayer

And people wonder why Israel has been jumping on these rocketeers with hell fire.

It has to be forced to stop, pronto, tout suite.


3 posted on 11/21/2012 7:55:07 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: chessplayer

Keep in mind that it’s a two-way street and that Israel is learning tons of stuff by using this system in combat.

From what I can tell, the system has done very well. As to the cost - even 1000 missiles is $60,000,000...not a huge amount of money, even for Israel. And the rockets that threaten their big cities cost a lot more than $500...and have to be smuggled into position.


4 posted on 11/21/2012 7:58:32 AM PST by BobL (You can live each day only once. You can waste a few, but don't waste too many.)
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To: chessplayer

This is known as Competitive Strategies. 9/11 is the prime example. It’s also how USA won the Cold War against USSR. Great book called “The Cola Wars” is a good example in Private Enterprise.


5 posted on 11/21/2012 7:59:24 AM PST by Portcall24
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To: HiTech RedNeck

they need to attack the supply line more, such as the vessels bring them to to the Red Sea ports. those won’t be $500/missiles if they have to be airfrieghted.


6 posted on 11/21/2012 8:00:22 AM PST by RitchieAprile (the obsteperous gentleman..)
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To: chessplayer
I heard that strategy also and have been wondering how many of the defense missiles the Israelis have left.
7 posted on 11/21/2012 8:02:24 AM PST by McGruff (No New RINOs!)
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What goes up must come down. Hopefully the shrapnel created from the explosion of rockets in air comes down over the Pali launch site rather than over friendly territory.
8 posted on 11/21/2012 8:04:34 AM PST by shove_it ( No representation without taxation.)
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To: mylife

>> What would one pay to stop the bullet coming at their head?

A lot, of course.

However, suppose it were cheaper to eliminate the threat BEFORE it reached the point of putting a gun to your head? Wouldn’t that be the wiser choice?

http://www.jewishpress.com/indepth/analysis/the-morally-reprehensible-iron-dome-hamass-best-friend/2012/11/19/


9 posted on 11/21/2012 8:04:46 AM PST by Nervous Tick ("You can ignore reality, but you can't ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.")
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To: chessplayer

I’m not sure why the Israeli’s didn’t employ radar directed AAA as an initial line of defense against these rockets?


10 posted on 11/21/2012 8:06:58 AM PST by fso301
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To: chessplayer

Iron Dome is to Israel what our EPA’s regulations are to our economy.


11 posted on 11/21/2012 8:07:36 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: chessplayer
Now the Israelis have demonstrated an effective, but not perfect BMD system they get slammed for this?

The system will evolve from what is learned. Remember this is a second generation, equivalent to biplanes on the evolutionary scale of BMD systems.

In the 1980's the "experts" mocked Reagan for even proposing a missile defense system. The world is full of things the experts said could never be done. More have died listening to the experts than defying them.

12 posted on 11/21/2012 8:08:11 AM PST by pfflier
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To: Portcall24

how the USA won the cold war? Horse manure. You have a Marxist in the White House today. Sure America fought against communism and at the end of the day they voted one into the White House!

Try
http://vimeo.com/52009124

Worst part? He is a muslo marxist.

The USA won NOTHING and is now on the road packing for ruin, at warp speed due to stupid voters AND FRAUD!.


13 posted on 11/21/2012 8:09:49 AM PST by himno hero (hadnuff)
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To: chessplayer

in order to detect and stop these rockets they must have an amazing radar

why not have drones flying overhead 24/7 and blow the crap out of any rocket lanch site within seconds


14 posted on 11/21/2012 8:12:10 AM PST by Mr. K (some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help...)
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At $65,000 per round to hard kill a $500 rocket, its one expensive piece of mind that Israel has a lot riding on.

Keep in mind that at least 95% of terrorist rockets will hit vacant land if Iron Dome does nothing, and those are ignored by the system. Essentially, the $65k missile stops the equivalent of 20 rockets, or $10k, from doing any damage. When you factor in the differential value placed on life between Israel, where life is cherished, and the terrorists, for whom death is celebrated, and Iron Dome sounds much better. Israel cannot afford to exclusively defend, but it is very nice that they can dramatically cut the price paid by civilians. As for offense, I'm thrilled to see naval gunfire support being used. That has a much lower cost than Iron Dome, and it delivers ordnance on target efficiently.

15 posted on 11/21/2012 8:12:10 AM PST by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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>>$65,000 per round to hard kill a $500 rocket<<

Should read...$65,000 per round to hard save Israeli lives!


16 posted on 11/21/2012 8:12:45 AM PST by servantboy777
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To: RitchieAprile

Israel is not composed of dummies, and I imagine that will follow, inasmuch as Israel can manage to trace those supply lines.

If the Lord tarries, I’m thinking there could well be a time when such an Israel-hating nut is the president that we will look back fondly to the time when “even Barack Obama said that Israel had the right to defend itself.”


17 posted on 11/21/2012 8:15:11 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: chessplayer

I wonder what happened to the laser system they supposedly tested successfully a few years ago.


18 posted on 11/21/2012 8:15:30 AM PST by wideminded
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To: RitchieAprile

No, Israel needs to buy a couple of old B-52s from the U.S. and introduce the Gaza strip animals to the lost art of carpet bombing.

The Gaza Strip needs to be turned into the Vacant Strip.

Innocent civilian casualties? Plenty. Who cares? Wars are won or lost by the complete destruction of the enemy and its will to continue. Period.

The last time that strategy was actually used in warfare it worked. Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan haven’t been too much of a threat to their neighbors since 1945.

The whole idea of rationed and proportionate responses to attack is insane. Only when Israel finally opens up with a devestating and wholly disproportionate response — obliterating the enemy and its desire to ever enter into conflict again — will Israel be at peace and be secure.


19 posted on 11/21/2012 8:15:53 AM PST by FerociousRabbit
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To: himno hero

The US won the cold war. Then it surrendered.


20 posted on 11/21/2012 8:16:41 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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