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Rush Limbaugh Fights Back Against Loser GOP Consultants Who Attacked Him
Newsbusters.org ^ | November 21, 2012 | Randy Hall

Posted on 11/21/2012 8:15:42 AM PST by servo1969

Radio talk show host Rush Limbaugh responded on Monday to comments from Republican strategists Mike Murphy and Steve Schmidt, who have called on the party to “stray away from a vision” that is right out of the conservative commentator's “dream journal.”

The radio personality deflected the criticism, noting that the moderate GOP consultants got the candidate they wanted -- former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney -- and stated that strategists get rich regardless of who wins the elections.



As NewsBusters previously reported, Murphy stated on Sunday's edition of NBC's Meet the Press that “if we don't modernize conservatism, we could go extinct.” He added:

The biggest problem that Romney had was the Republican primary, That’s what’s driving the Republican brand right now to a disaster, and we’ve got to get, kind of, a party view of America that’s not right out of Rush Limbaugh’s dream journal. We've got to look at reality.

Limbaugh responded by asking: “What, folks, did I or any of you have to do with the Republican primary? Did not Murphy get the candidate he wanted?”

The radio host then revealed what he called a “little-known secret.” Consultants often ”get rich no matter who wins or loses. But in the Republican primary, as far as he’s concerned, there were too many conservatives in it saying too many stupid things.

“We need to get rid of conservatism, is what is he’s saying,” Limbaugh added.

Murphy also described the GOP's status in dire terms:

There's a huge donor revolt going on. I mean, look, we have now lost the popular vote in five of the last six presidential elections. This is a existential crisis for the Republican Party, and we have to have a brutal discussion about it.

Apparently the consultant didn't examine the winners and losers in recent presidential elections. Moderates like Sen. Bob Dole (1996), Sen. John McCain (2008) and Gov. Mitt Romney (2012) all lost their contests, while conservatives Ronald Reagan (1980 and 1984), George H. W. Bush (1988, riding Reagan's coat tails) and George W. Bush (who ran as a “compassionate conservative” in 2000 and 2004) won the White House.

Limbaugh then turned his attention to remarks made by Steve Schmidt on the previous week's edition of Meet the Press.

To too many swing voters in the country, when you hear the word conservative now, they think of loons and wackos.

Schmidt, who managed Sen. John McCain's failed campaign in 2008, added: “Our elected leaders are scared to death of the conservative entertainment complex, the shrill and divisive voices that are bombastic and broadcasting out into the homes.

“And then when you look at the demographics, who is Rush Limbaugh talking to?” the consultant asked. “He is talking to a demographic that’s white, 65 plus, and rural. It’s not what the country looks like anymore.”

So you have these talk radio hosts making millions and millions and millions of dollars a year driving a message of complete and total ludicrous nonsense into the electorate, a lot of it poisonous.

“Okay, so you people are all white, 65 and over, and you live in the sticks,” Limbaugh responded. “And you are screwing up the Republican Party because you are believing what I say. This is their explanation for having lost.

“It’s quite natural to blame somebody else,” the conservative commentator added. “Obama got away with it. Obama blamed Bush, and he got away with it, people bought it. So now these guys want to blame me. Should I change my name? I’m so disgraced now, should I change my name to Lance Armstrong or [David] Petraeus?”

Limbaugh then summed up his critique of the GOP strategists:

I don’t like saying it at all, but these Republican consultants, all of whom now are trying to blame me for what’s happened, I haven’t run one campaign, and they know it.

“They think they have the strategy, they have the blueprint, they know how to win, though none of them ever do,” Rush continued.

“But then I come along, and I get the public so riled up that I end up getting people to vote in ways against the strategists have convinced their candidates they can make happen,” he noted. “So it’s my fault.”

This clash is the latest example of Limbaugh “taking the slings and arrows” for his fellow conservatives, as he has done during the nearly two decades he's been on the air. It's hard to imagine what the Republican Party would be like without Rush's input and commentary, and that's something I hope we won't see for a long, long time.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: gop; limbaugh; rino; rush

1 posted on 11/21/2012 8:15:48 AM PST by servo1969
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To: servo1969

Not a fair fight for those losers.


2 posted on 11/21/2012 8:21:26 AM PST by AU72
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To: AU72

It is ridiculous to see all the finger pointing when their is only one person to blame and that is flip-flopper liberal Romney. Nobody else should get a second of blame.


3 posted on 11/21/2012 8:24:18 AM PST by napscoordinator (GOP Candidate 2020 - "Bloomberg 2020 - We vote for whatever crap the GOP puts in front of us.")
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To: servo1969

The election was rigged, period. Reagan would never been POTUS if the hackable voting machine was already in use at that time.


4 posted on 11/21/2012 8:24:58 AM PST by hamboy (Psalm 109:8: Let his days be few; and let another take his office.)
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To: servo1969

Would have been nice if he’d gone after them—and made it personal—after they attacked Sarah Palin, instead of waiting for them to come after him.


5 posted on 11/21/2012 8:26:21 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: servo1969

If you want to win, why would you listen to losers like Murphy and Schmidt? Thay can’t even be honest with themselves. How can they be honest with others?

“Understand yourself and understand your opponents, and in one hundred elections, you will not be defeated.”

We were defeated. We either don’t understand our own party, or we don’t understand the Democrats. We probably don’t understand either one.


6 posted on 11/21/2012 8:26:49 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: servo1969

Every time I see Mike Murphy associated with a campaign, I see a losing candidate.


7 posted on 11/21/2012 8:27:32 AM PST by mort56
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To: blueunicorn6

Schmidt is a Democrat plant.


8 posted on 11/21/2012 8:28:23 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: servo1969
Murphy stated on Sunday's edition of NBC's Meet the Press that “if we don't modernize conservatism, we could go extinct.”

Did he offer any specifics?

9 posted on 11/21/2012 8:32:56 AM PST by Texas Eagle (1)
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To: blueunicorn6
We were defeated. We either don’t understand our own party, or we don’t understand the Democrats. We probably don’t understand either oneThis is one of the reasons that I'm skeptical of third party strategies. How long will it be until the New Conservative Party or the Let Me Alone Party or whatever will be run by these "experts" that do everything for the precious independents while ignoring the Conservative core.
10 posted on 11/21/2012 8:33:25 AM PST by Cowman (How can the IRS seize property without a warrant if the 4th amendment still stands?)
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To: servo1969

The first thing the next Republican Presidential Candidate should do is make sure none of the old Republican Campaign Consultants are hired for anything. They are ALL a bunch of losers. The next thing is to make sure they have a first class get out the vote ground game even if they have to take a page out of the Democrats play book.


11 posted on 11/21/2012 8:35:14 AM PST by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: servo1969

Gee I wonder WHY Rush NEVER says ANYTHING BAD about that FAT, DISGUSTING BASTARD KARL ROVE! Is it because Rush is tight with the Uber-RINO BUSHIES?!


12 posted on 11/21/2012 8:36:43 AM PST by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy
but the following needs to be instituted as well

All states need to have photo ID in place.
Same day registration needs to be banned.
Electronic voting needs to be replaced with serialized paper ballots that are marked in ink.
There needs to be a time and date stamp on the ballot when it goes through the machine, this would be in conjunction with a sign in for registered voters (no more checkmarks),
Purple finger ink.
Video monitoring of all polling places.
Poll watchers have authority to shut down voting should anything questionable happen.

Inside the ballot machine there needs to be a locked container for the ballots with a chain of custody attached, Everyone with access to that container will sign the COC and if any irregularities are found with those ballots everyone on that COC will be subject to persecution and no less that 25 years in prison or execution.

13 posted on 11/21/2012 8:40:24 AM PST by Cowman (How can the IRS seize property without a warrant if the 4th amendment still stands?)
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To: mort56

Both of them are losers and always will be, the problem the way I see it is this, if They truly espoused Conservatism thru and thru, without any equivocations or apologies The Candidate would win Hands down and then these losers would be out of a job, because the Candidates would realize that all you need to do to win is be Honest and Make no bones about who you are or what you stand for. This would put all these so-called consultants out of work Permanently. Their goal is to keep the status quo, not get people elected who will reform the system or do anything whatsoever to help We the People. Their entire self worth depends on BIG GOVERNMENT.


14 posted on 11/21/2012 8:43:24 AM PST by eyeamok
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To: servo1969

A list of GOP “Consultants” who need to be executed Gangland “Style”:
1. Karl Rove
2. Steve Schmidt
3. Mike Murphy
4. Ed Rollins


15 posted on 11/21/2012 8:50:33 AM PST by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: servo1969

"The radio host then revealed what he called a “little-known secret.” Consultants often ”get rich no matter who wins or loses."

Yep. I would bet in fact that, deep down, a lot of these consultants actually despise Republicans, and get a twisted joy out of taking their money and giving them worthless advice in return. And if Republicans are stupid enough to keep doling out the money, why not?

We were much better off in 2010 with less cash, when we simply listened to the concerns of everyday Americans. We were much better off when we listened to the free advice of Reaganites...

16 posted on 11/21/2012 8:53:58 AM PST by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: napscoordinator
Apparently the consultant didn't examine the winners and losers in recent presidential elections. Moderates like Sen. Bob Dole (1996), Sen. John McCain (2008) and Gov. Mitt Romney (2012) all lost their contests, while conservatives Ronald Reagan (1980 and 1984), George H. W. Bush (1988, riding Reagan's coat tails) and George W. Bush (who ran as a “compassionate conservative” in 2000 and 2004) won the White House.

Heh. Made the exact same argument, listing the exact same failed nominees... and was (*cough*cough*) "rewarded" with hordes of huffy, red-faced li'l Team Mittens online catamites, squealing and squeaking that I "must be a mean ol' WIBERAL -- !!!"

PREACH it, Rush. ;)

17 posted on 11/21/2012 8:56:18 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: servo1969

Steve Schmidt needs to be tarred and feathered. He oversaw the losses of McQueeg and Romney, and he has spent an equall amount of energy trying to destroy Palin.


18 posted on 11/21/2012 8:56:18 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: servo1969

Very simple yardstick here—How many national elections have any of these guys won?

It used to be that only DemocRATS revered their losers.


19 posted on 11/21/2012 8:58:54 AM PST by Arm_Bears (The MSM lies about conservatives; and it lies about liberals.)
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To: servo1969
Loser "advisors advising" losing candidates proceed to blame others for the losses of their candidates, ones that much of the GOP rejected prior to the early voting in such conservative bastions as Iowa and New Hampshire!

What chutzpah!

Schmidt who trash-talked Sarah at every possible moment, telling the rank and file Republicans that conservatism loses.

Rush is right, as usual, when he says the advisors win financially whether or not their candidates lose or win (like lawyers who get paid even when their clients get screwed!)

20 posted on 11/21/2012 9:05:58 AM PST by zerosix (Native sunflower)
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To: servo1969
These supposed GOP “consultants” should be unmasked and exposed for what they really are: the self-serving fools, money-grubbing clowns and egotistical court jesters of a party without vision, honor or respect for those they allegedly represent. They're dishonest men of low morals who could care less about the country; they're only aspiration is to collect their handsome fees and remain on the Meet The Press invite list.
21 posted on 11/21/2012 9:08:35 AM PST by mojito (Zero, our Nero.)
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To: Cowman
The only way any non dim/leftist party will get any money will be if they are truly Conservative... this includes the republican party. It is in debt and starving... and I refuse to feed them any longer... unless and until... Reaganism returns as their core ideology.

LLS

22 posted on 11/21/2012 9:11:19 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: US Navy Vet

BINGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LLS


23 posted on 11/21/2012 9:13:53 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: LibLieSlayer
What LLS done said. ;)


24 posted on 11/21/2012 9:22:02 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: servo1969
Good grief. Limbaugh practically carried their homeboy for them. Now, they turn. Typical back stabbing, I say. Limbaugh gets cozy with these kind of people..see what they do, ElRushbo. Ed Rollins never can be trusted (his staff leaked things out on Bachman/then Ed slammed her himself), as he were made to look so important on FOX/ CNN. Rush is right on one thing, they get paid no matter who wins which I already knew. Those consultants are why we continue to lose. Divorce them, GOP and kick them to the curb. America is under attack from places like the NYT. They are so giddy, aren't they. With the right candidate, we will crush them. Main reason we lost this election and they know it.
25 posted on 11/21/2012 9:30:57 AM PST by Christie at the beach (I like Newt. .Our nation's foundation is under attack.)
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To: napscoordinator
"It is ridiculous to see all the finger pointing when their is only one person to blame and that is flip-flopper liberal Romney."

Not true. Romney received fewer votes than McCain. Obama was elected because the Kamikaze Conservatives that sat sat home and didn't vote for the one they call a "Rino".

Really taught the GOP a lesson, didn't you? Think we can survive until the next presidential election? You failed to nominate a "conservative" so you handed the presidency to a communist. Have you learned anything at all or will you serve up the same self defeating disaster next time.

26 posted on 11/21/2012 9:38:19 AM PST by Buffalo Head (Illigitimi non carborundum)
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To: servo1969
"if we don't modernize conservatism..."

Do these people even hear themselves talk?

27 posted on 11/21/2012 9:55:46 AM PST by Excellence (9/11 was an act of faith.)
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To: LibLieSlayer

All Republicans need to do is just RUN on their party’s GOP PLatform and they WILL WIN EVERY SINGLE TIME!


28 posted on 11/21/2012 10:12:10 AM PST by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: Christie at the beach

If Rush is suffering any ratings issues, which I don’t know of) it is because he is too close; friendly..loyal to the republican moderate Establishment by his relationship to THE Bush family. Rove represents the Bushes. Notice, never mentions Karl. It is easy to see his admiration throughout his broadcast years. Rush needs to find truly a better workable balance to that. Once he does that, he will bring his base back (the ones who left or feel confused)that he got behind a Massachusetts moderate and doing the anybody candidate. People like to be motivated; that ABM message was a turn off to some. The ones who did not vote Mitt, I am not going to tear into them because we need them in the future. The only way we lose, is with a candidate that people do not like nor trust or if people just give up. Let’s pray that those who stayed home have not given up completely. We have not run a conservative (at the top ticket slot) for a very long time. You think maybe the GOP may not want to win these presidencies. Their actions certainly makes me to ask that question. In closing, Rush needs to fight back with conservatism every day. That was the message that made him a famous giant and deeply respected.


29 posted on 11/21/2012 10:21:37 AM PST by Christie at the beach (I like Newt. .Our nation's foundation is under attack.)
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To: Buffalo Head

Eh?! They stayed home or, in my case, didn’t move for the turd that was foisted by the GOPe; but that’s the problem with us voters?? NO! Put up someone who can talk the Constitution, promise and deliver the same THEN you can get the votes.

I’m for sure not one to be led by the nose to pull the (R) lever, just because it’s the (R) lever. The Dem plantation slaves do that, the (R) must EARN our votes/$$.


30 posted on 11/21/2012 10:22:20 AM PST by i_robot73
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To: hamboy

How about we get around to blaming the idiot voters?

Why is there still an assumption the majority of people in this country are sensible, conservative people at heart?

There are simply more of them than us. By a few million at least. And growing.


31 posted on 11/21/2012 10:25:18 AM PST by over3Owithabrain
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To: Excellence
"if we don't modernize conservatism..."

Do these people even hear themselves talk?

"If we don't find some way to make this fire more wet..." ;)

32 posted on 11/21/2012 10:30:01 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: blueunicorn6

The RNC doesn’t understand us.


33 posted on 11/21/2012 10:33:10 AM PST by CityCenter (Presidential terms are 4 years, eternity is forever.)
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To: i_robot73
Eh?! They stayed home or, in my case, didn’t move for the turd that was foisted by the GOPe; but that’s the problem with us voters?? NO! Put up someone who can talk the Constitution, promise and deliver the same THEN you can get the votes. I’m for sure not one to be led by the nose to pull the (R) lever, just because it’s the (R) lever. The Dem plantation slaves do that, the (R) must EARN our votes/$$.

Let me educate you...there is NO Perfect candidate.

But I can guess you have the perfect put down remark ready to put me in my place. Well, let's hear it.

34 posted on 11/21/2012 10:36:21 AM PST by timestax (Why not drug tests for the President AND all White Hut staff ? ? ?)
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To: i_robot73
I have explained to the more obdurate GOP diehards hereabouts, time and again, that there exists in our mother tongue a perfectly apt one word phrase, giving the precise technical term for any political party which -- upon losing -- promptly turns about to savage its constituents, rather than its candidate(s).

That word, as every school child knows (or certainly used to, at any rate), is: LOSERS.

The GOP-e has long since forgotten this irrevocable, elemental truth... assuming, of course, that they ever actually knew it to begin with.

35 posted on 11/21/2012 10:36:26 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Amen brother!

LLS


36 posted on 11/21/2012 11:05:59 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: US Navy Vet
They have to be able to explain what Conservatism is because that is something that Romney refused or was incapable of doing. If a man or woman believes in something... they can promote it anytime and anywhere... just like Reagan did. No more liberals trying to lie their way through as a Conservative.

LLS

37 posted on 11/21/2012 11:11:53 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: Buffalo Head

I loved to the jerk. Not my fault at all. The idiot Romney is a horrible person and that is why he was kicked to the curb.


38 posted on 11/21/2012 11:18:06 AM PST by napscoordinator (GOP Candidate 2020 - "Bloomberg 2020 - We vote for whatever crap the GOP puts in front of us.")
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To: Buffalo Head
First of all I voted for mitt Romney and I did my best to defend him here on this form. But WE DID NOT FAIL TO NOMINATE A DAMNED THING! The republican party elite so controlled the process that we never had a chance. They destroyed Palin over a three year period... they kept certain states as open primaries so dims and progressives could vote in OUR primaries... they conspired with certain republican SoS to keep the two candidates running ahead of mitt from even being on the ballot... and then mitt ran a hard hitting campaign against newt in Florida... spent 100 million dollars in smearing and lying about newt... and he wouldn't even call out obama on anything... he refused to paint obama as who and what he is... he even REFUSED to mention Benghazi... and that is why we lost. Blaming Conservatives will only ensure that 2016 will see about 24% of the registered voters voting for the gop and that will be the last election the gop will see... UNLESS the republican party returns to the Reagan ideology.

LLS

39 posted on 11/21/2012 11:18:06 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: over3Owithabrain

We have a populace in which less than half even register to vote. There are plenty of Americans to make a difference in electing Conservatives... but the repubics have not given any of these people that refuse to vote... a reason to vote.

LLS


40 posted on 11/21/2012 11:22:13 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: LibLieSlayer
UNLESS the republican party returns to the Reagan ideology.

Why would they need to do that, if conservatives like you vote for Mitt Romney and defend him on the internet's largest site for conservative activism?

They'll keep doing what they do, until the base wises up and leaves.

41 posted on 11/21/2012 11:24:39 AM PST by Colonel_Flagg ("Don't be afraid to see what you see." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: Colonel_Flagg
I did exactly what I had to do... I did what Jim Robinson asked me to do... and you sir, can jam your blame where the good Lord split you. READ my 50,000 posts on FR and tell me again that I am the problem. One damned thing you can bank on... I will NEVER vote for another republican or anyone else that does not EARN my vote. I hate the republican party as much as I hate the dim party... and I hate the gop/e most of all.
42 posted on 11/21/2012 11:45:58 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: over3Owithabrain
How about we get around to blaming the idiot voters?

Nope, idiot voters are the majority yet. They'd need to show gov't issue authentic photo ID to vote and get rid of the crap hackable electronic voting machines.

43 posted on 11/21/2012 1:17:56 PM PST by hamboy (Psalm 109:8: Let his days be few; and let another take his office.)
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To: timestax

No, nothing to ‘come back’ with, just proves a point

The one(s) out there that would make a good, if not great, candidate are the ones who are routinely belittled, defamed and insulted on this board. I’m no Paulbot, but his ideals make for as close to ‘perfect’ a candidate as there can be. But the Libertarian bent are the red-headed-step-children.

But because he believes in States Rights (weed & abortion [the latter I’m at odds with him against], open borders (again, against) and not being the world Police he’s a kook. No matter he’d cut departments, eliminate/audit the Fed, gold standard...actually FOLLOW the Constitution, no can’t have a kook w/ THOSE 3+ strikes against him.

Instead, who’s hoisted to the front? Flip-flopper NE liberal (anti-gun, pro-gay, pro-illegal, etc.) and ‘everyone cheers’ ‘cuz we gotta beat the ‘bad man’. Two sides of the same coin.

Just listen these days to the GOPe, ridiculing the TEA Party members and the true (L)(C)/Conservatives and tell me again why the (R) should have gotten my vote?


44 posted on 11/21/2012 3:39:12 PM PST by i_robot73
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To: servo1969
.... There's a huge donor revolt going on. I mean, look, we have now lost the popular vote in five of the last six presidential elections. This is a existential crisis for the Republican Party, and we have to have a brutal discussion about it. ....

Very obvious to us Conservatives Mr Murphy. It's dunceheads like you that still isn't getting the message that the grass roots of the base are sending the RINO party. .....

۞ "Since the bygone days of Ronald Reagan the present day Republican Party has taken on the appearance and all the demeanor of the corrupted liberal Democrat Party and has now become the party of appeasers, apologists, liberalism and an ever bigger government with all of the welfare largesse that emanates from it."

45 posted on 11/23/2012 12:39:48 PM PST by Ron H. (Democrats and Republicans - birds of a feather that are now flocking together.)
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