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They Are Going To Make It Nearly Impossible To Pass On A Farm Or A Business To Your Children
TEC ^ | 11-21-2012 | Michael Snyder

Posted on 11/21/2012 9:39:04 AM PST by blam

They Are Going To Make It Nearly Impossible To Pass On A Farm Or A Business To Your Children

By Michael Snyder
on November 20th, 2012

If you have a farm or a small business, would you like to pass it on to your children when you die? Well, unless Congress does something, it is going to become much, much harder to do that starting next year. Right now, there is a 5 million dollar estate tax exemption and anything above that is taxed at 35 percent. But on January 1st, the exemption will go down to 1 million dollars and the tax rate will go up to 55 percent. A lot of liberals are very excited about this, because they believe that the government will be soaking wealthy people like Warren Buffett and Bill Gates. But the truth is that a lot of farms, ranches and small businesses will be absolutely devastated by this change in the tax law. There are many farmers and ranchers out there today that do not make much money but are sitting on tracts of land that are worth millions of dollars.
According to the American Farm Bureau, approximately 97 percent of all farms and ranches in the United States would be subject to the estate tax if the exemption was reduced to just a million dollars. That means that the children of these farmers and ranchers would be faced with a very cruel choice when it is time to inherit these farms and ranches. Either they come up with enough money to pay the government about half of what the farm or ranch is worth, or they sell the farm or ranch that may have been in their family for generations. Needless to say, most farm and ranch families do not have that kind of cash lying around. Most of them are just barely making it from year to year. So this change in the tax law is going to greatly accelerate the death of the family farm in America. This is also going to devastate many family-owned small businesses. Many small businesses don't make much money, but they have buildings or land or assets worth millions of dollars. Children that may have wanted to continue the family legacy will be forced to sell because of the massive tax bill that they get from Uncle Sam. This is an insidious cruelty, and it shows just how broken our system has become.

The desire to leave the wealth that you have worked so hard to accumulate all your life to your children is something that is common to virtually all human societies. We want to know that future generations will be taken care of.

It is simply immoral for the federal government to swoop in and tax farms, ranches and small businesses that were intended to be passed down from parents to their children at a 55 percent tax rate.

A lot of the people that are going to be affected by this change are not "wealthy" at all. A recent Fox News report examined what this change in the law is going to mean for rancher Kevin Kester and his family...

Rancher Kevin Kester works dawn to dusk, drives a 12-year-old pick-up truck and earns less than a typical bureaucrat in Washington D.C., yet the federal government considers him rich enough to pay the estate tax -- also known as the "death tax." Kester told Fox News that he has no doubt that his ranch will have to be sold when he dies just to pay the tax bill...

"There is no way financially my kids can pay what the IRS is going to demand from them nine months after death and keep this ranch intact for their generation and future generations," said Kester, of the Bear Valley Ranch in Central California.

Two decades ago, Kester paid the IRS $2 million when he inherited a 22,000-acre cattle ranch from his grandfather. Come January, the tax burden on his children will be more than $13 million. Reading that should make you angry. Every single year, thousands upon thousands of farms, ranches and small businesses are going to be lost to the federal tax monster.

It is almost as if the federal government does not want income-producing assets to remain in the hands of the "little guy".

What in the world are we supposed to do?

It isn't as if all of those farmers and ranchers can go off to the big cities and find good jobs. As I wrote about yesterday, our politicians are standing aside as millions of our good jobs are shipped out of the country.

The cold, hard truth is that our system does not work for average Americans any longer. Those that roll out of bed every morning, work hard and never complain always seem to get the short end of the stick.

The people that are the backbone of America are the ones that the government is always the hardest on.

Unfortunately, we have gotten to a point where the government is searching for more "revenue" from anywhere it can because it desperately needs more money. U.S. government finances are a complete and total mess and we are drowning in the biggest ocean of debt the world has ever seen.

We are more than 16 trillion dollars in debt and there are more than 100 million Americans that are enrolled in at least one welfare program.

Someday has to pay for all this.

Middle class Americans are already hit with dozens of different taxes each year, and you can be certain that our politicians will continue to invent ways to extract even more "revenue" out of us.

And of course our politicians will never stop their wild spending. Despite all of the negotiations that have taken place over the past couple of years, our spending problems just continue to grow. For example, the federal budget deficit for the month of October was $120 billion, which was more than 20 percent larger than the federal budget deficit for October 2011 was.

So what is the solution?

Well, Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner now says that he wants to eliminate the debt ceiling entirely. He says that we should just have no limit and that the federal government should just be able to go into debt as much as it wants.

In the end, all of this debt is going to absolutely crush us. We have literally destroyed the future of America, and yet most of the country still seems clueless about all of this. The blind are leading the blind, and we are headed straight for complete and utter disaster.

One day, when people look back on this period in American history, what do you think people are going to say about us?


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 112th; agenda; bho44; business; commies; estate; farmers; farms; governmentgreed; inheritance; inheritate; tax; taxes
Joe McCarthy was 100% correct. He was proven correct by the FBI's Venona Project .

The COMMIES now control every department of the US government, labor, entertainment and all types of the media.

WAD!

1 posted on 11/21/2012 9:39:13 AM PST by blam
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To: blam

The GOP needs to scream long and loud about how the Dems want to screw the farmer and rancher.


2 posted on 11/21/2012 9:41:47 AM PST by taxcontrol
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To: blam

THAT IS THE GOAL!
They hate it when an honest person accumulates some money or property and passes it down to his family.
They want it!
They found a way. The illegal “estate tax.”

We live in a socialist country. Already. Now.


3 posted on 11/21/2012 9:45:00 AM PST by I want the USA back
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To: blam

I can’t imagine what they think gives them the right or authority to tax estates AT ALL!


4 posted on 11/21/2012 9:45:14 AM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: blam

Gee, will Johnny Cougar record a song about this?


5 posted on 11/21/2012 9:47:00 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: taxcontrol

“The GOP needs to scream long and loud about how the Dems want to screw the farmer and rancher.”

Well, 1/2 of the GOP is all signed up for this.

The other half? Hmmmm, if you scream in a media vacuum, does anyone hear?


6 posted on 11/21/2012 9:49:13 AM PST by brownsfan (It's over.)
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To: blam

The only ones who will be able to accumulate some money are the liberal elite. They wrote the laws and know how to get around them or just ignore them.


7 posted on 11/21/2012 9:49:16 AM PST by I want the USA back (Communism changed its name to "Democrat Party")
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To: blam

ah yes. the warren buffet tax. makes it easy for him to buy up family businesses.


8 posted on 11/21/2012 9:50:38 AM PST by dadfly
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To: blam
They'll have to start turning the properties over to their children a little bit every year (over a number of years). If they keep the value of the inheritance given to the children low each year, by the time the owners die, the property will be almost already owned by the kids. Most of it will already be theirs.
9 posted on 11/21/2012 9:51:31 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: blam

bkmk


10 posted on 11/21/2012 9:54:43 AM PST by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: blam

We won’t be able to pass on anything to our children. Homes, cottages, money... nothing but some old plates and photos.

Death Tax will take it all. Communism is about taking our rights to hold private property.

They have us coming and going.


11 posted on 11/21/2012 9:57:39 AM PST by Truth2012
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To: I want the USA back
They want it!

We're subhuman slaves. Our job is to serve them, period. They don't see us as human beings. They see us as a herd of laborers. When they want more, they simply take it.
Everything else is a lie. It's an illusion they've created for us. They want us to believe we're "free."
Somebody explain to me how we're "free." Free to do...... what?

12 posted on 11/21/2012 9:58:39 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: concerned about politics

One freeper said making the family farm into a corporation and putting farm assets in trust for your children is a way around this onerous estate tax


13 posted on 11/21/2012 10:00:49 AM PST by dennisw ( The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: blam

Is there a way to get around this legally?

Prior to death, sell it to someone in your family?


14 posted on 11/21/2012 10:04:15 AM PST by Jayster
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Have you donated yet?


15 posted on 11/21/2012 10:15:44 AM PST by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: Still Thinking
I can’t imagine what they think gives them the right or authority to tax estates AT ALL!

Think about that. They number us the day we're born. They have a certificate of our birth on file. They sell our sweat equity, our future labor, on the market as bonds. They buy and sell us to each other.
How is that different from them owning us as slaves?

They control or property, even if we "pay for it" in full. They control our work places. They control our wages. They control our transpiration. They control our food. They control our options to buy or sell. They control the minds of our children. They control our bodies. Soon, they'll control our diet and behaviors. They even control the air we breath.

Still, we go one believing we're "free."
Free to do what? What is it that's ours to control or decide without their regulations or dictates? We don't even control our minds anymore. They've gotten control of them through PC, too.

16 posted on 11/21/2012 10:15:44 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: blam
From the Communist Manifesto:

1. Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes.
2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.
4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.
6. Centralization of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State.
7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State; the bringing into cultivation of waste-lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
8. Equal liability of all to work. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of all the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the populace over the country.
10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children’s factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, &c, &c.

Well commrads, it looks like we are here.

17 posted on 11/21/2012 10:20:03 AM PST by A. Patriot (Re-electing Obama is like the Titanic backing up to hit the iceberg again.)
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To: blam
It is almost criminal. Fully 1/2 of my grandmother's assets were confiscated by the Federal Government during the last year of her life (Clinton "Millionaire's Surtax") and in her death (Estate Tax). She had to have the timber on her acreage clear cut as she was approaching death to make enough of her estate liquid to pay the estate tax.

Seventeen years later, my mother, my grandmother's only child, is now 83 years old and has Alzheimer's. It would be very possible the property would be taxed again, although it has not gained that much. The idea you cannot deduct the principal, the value which was already subject to the estate tax in the past, is really beyond belief.

18 posted on 11/21/2012 10:23:35 AM PST by magellan
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To: blam

The communists will destroy agriculture via taxation instead of pogroms, and then starvation will ensue.


19 posted on 11/21/2012 10:36:08 AM PST by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: blam
Hey, you didn't build that! And what did your kids do to deserve to get it? It's not fair! So Uncle Sugar is going to "socialize**" it, in order to give it to the more deserving. Hey, it worked in Cuba and it's working so well in Zimbabwe!

Mark

** Maxine Waters, referring to "Big Oil."

20 posted on 11/21/2012 10:38:57 AM PST by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: dennisw
Government Sets Its Sights on Private Retirement Accounts: “Giant Effort to Redistribute the Wealth of America’s Older Citizens”
21 posted on 11/21/2012 10:40:32 AM PST by blam
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To: blam

Part of UN Agenda-21. Can’t wait for them to apply tax to the empty rooms in your house.

Every empty room in your house could collect rent so .gov will assign a value to it then tax you on what you should be making in rent.

They want to make it too expensive to own property. This will drive everyone to live in “mixed use” developments where you can be better accounted for and controlled.

Welcome to the future


22 posted on 11/21/2012 10:41:46 AM PST by PJammers (I can't help it... It's my idiom!)
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To: I want the USA back
The only ones who will be able to accumulate some money are the liberal elite. They wrote the laws and know how to get around them or just ignore them.

Don't leave out their owning of the CONgress.

23 posted on 11/21/2012 10:49:15 AM PST by Digger
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To: PJammers
"Part of UN Agenda-21"

The John Birch Society has been raising the alarm about Agenda-21 for at least 20 years.

Seems to be a hot topic now.

24 posted on 11/21/2012 10:50:01 AM PST by blam
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To: concerned about politics

My thought for our sons is to have a lease/purchase deal. You could gift them back the non-taxable amount that you can give each year.

Is there anything against the law with selling it to them cheap, under the going price?


25 posted on 11/21/2012 10:50:15 AM PST by tiki
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To: Jayster

A business entity like an LLC is perpetual, and you just change out the management of it. This change of management can be written into the articles of incorporation.

So, the parents manage the LLC which owns the property,
then upon death, management passes on to the inheritors.
It’s not that hard to set it up, but I’m sure if too many start doing it, depriving the gov’t of its “due”, they’ll find a way to keep the common folk from doing it.


26 posted on 11/21/2012 10:53:25 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Truth2012
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27 posted on 11/21/2012 10:56:19 AM PST by donna (Pray for revival.)
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To: blam

These folks need to get educated on and start setting their properties up in trusts. Trusts are how the elites manage and keep their wealth within their family lineages.


28 posted on 11/21/2012 11:00:18 AM PST by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: Jayster

I do not know all the specifics but by the time my grandparents both passed, they had signed over all properties and accounts to their only child, my mother. I remember hearing that it had to be in her name for seven (I think it was seven) years or the government would still try and take a cut under the argument that the assets were trying to be hidden from them, but after seven years they no longer had a case. It worked out well for our family and my parents have occasionally mentioned that they have learned a lot from the experience and also have a plan to securely pass property to my sister and I down the road. But we aren’t even close to that time yet, thank God. Like you suggested Jayster, the trick is just to stay way out in front of it with a good plan.


29 posted on 11/21/2012 11:07:45 AM PST by Casie (Chuck Norris 2016)
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To: blam

Reference Bump.


30 posted on 11/21/2012 11:16:00 AM PST by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: Jayster

I am an attorney in Minnesota. There are some techniques you can undertake to try to pass wealth along, but those techniques only partially offset the pain. A plan for a large estate (greater than $10 million) needs to be implemented well in advance of death in order to take advantage of the planning techniques that are still available. If you are dealing with a very significant estate (not that $10 million isn’t very significant), the owner really needs to hustle, be aggressive, and stay on top of the changes that occur.

In Minnesota, we also have a state Death Tax that kicks in at $1.0 million. That impacts a WHOLE lot of people - many who don’t even realize they’re in that camp. (401k, real estate, life insurance, vehicles, etc — it adds up pretty quickly)

There is still the ability to gift to charity an unlimited amount - if it comes down to the government taking it or a charity receiving it... well, I know which one would end up with mine!

For the record, selling it prior to death would likely trigger crippling capital gains taxes - or gift taxes if the property was sold for less than fair market value. Then you have to figure out a plan for the cash... Passing it to the heirs (along with a stepped-up cost basis) would likely be much more prudent.


31 posted on 11/21/2012 11:22:20 AM PST by mn-bush-man
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To: Axenolith

You have to watch out for a trust, though, especially if it’s managed by a bank or management company.

Their goal, more times than not, is to drain it as fast as possible and get it off their books.


32 posted on 11/21/2012 11:24:05 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB
A business entity like an LLC is perpetual, and you just change out the management of it. This change of management can be written into the articles of incorporation.

Yes, but somebody has to "own" the business entity or LLC. Since the parent most likely has full ownership of the business, that is an asset passed down to the children and is subject to the death tax. It would also be considered an "asset" in a personal bankruptcy that could be liquidated by the court.
33 posted on 11/21/2012 11:24:42 AM PST by nonamer
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To: Axenolith

But doesn’t the estate still have to pay taxes?


34 posted on 11/21/2012 11:24:56 AM PST by tiki
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To: blam

Well, young people voted for all this. They’ll be shocked by their structured poverty and oppression when they get older.

Commies will pile their oppression high and harden it by transfering power to the UN.


35 posted on 11/21/2012 11:27:14 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: nonamer

We set our parents’ up differently, and for different reasons. They weren’t the owners, and some of us kids managed it.

The problem is that they didn’t understand how it worked, and we got a lot of resistance after all the paperwork was signed.

So, set yours up while you’re still cognizant.


36 posted on 11/21/2012 11:27:47 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: blam
Rampant INjustice
37 posted on 11/21/2012 11:31:53 AM PST by blam
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To: taxcontrol

I wonder how many farmers voted for Zer0 and his fellow DemonRAT legislatures? This rule will hit them and they will still be in denial.


38 posted on 11/21/2012 11:36:38 AM PST by jonrick46 (The opium of other people's money.)
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To: blam

Despite claims otherwise, the Left is also hostile towards small business owners. Note the Occupy zombies smashing windows of small privately owned businesses. When told that the owners of the businesses were not part of the “one percenters”, the reply was the owners had more than most other “99 percenters”. This is the same reasoning that Stalin used on the kulaks.

The Democratic Party is the operational wing of CPUSA.


39 posted on 11/21/2012 11:46:12 AM PST by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is the operational wing of CPUSA.)
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To: blam

40 posted on 11/21/2012 12:01:14 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: blam

I don’t think my children want our business. My husband and I work like dogs. My teacher’s union friend always wonders why I work so much. She constantly has in-service days, strange holidays, etc. etc. etc. Now when she starts telling me about her days off I literally put my fingers in my ears and sing “lalalalla” loudly. She thinks it’s funny but I’m not joking.


41 posted on 11/21/2012 12:03:26 PM PST by Calpublican
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To: blam

Will there be a “Farm Aid” telethon?


42 posted on 11/21/2012 12:12:08 PM PST by Mike Darancette (I don't understand why the Boomers are so passive.)
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To: concerned about politics

You are free to shop if you have the money.

You are free to vote for whichever D candidate is allowed on the ballot.

All I can think of.


43 posted on 11/21/2012 1:50:11 PM PST by reformedliberal
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To: blam
This is NOT a joke. I am sick and tired of reading all of this boo hooing about what government is doing. Put me in office and watch what happens. Try organizing to write in the name of a common man and let him begin to fix the system. I am not beholden to anyone. It would simply be fair.

Probably would need Secret Service protection in a big way....

Maybe it's time someone with the wealth and means would actually support someone coming to power who would fix a huge amount of the problems in this nation. I guarantee you given the chance a LOT of things would change real fast and at the point of a gun, if necessary.

Maybe therein lies the problem. Those with wealth and power do NOT want the problems fixed. Just maybe, they are profiting off of all the problems. Did that ever occur to you?

44 posted on 11/21/2012 2:08:56 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: blam

I don’t know what WAD means but I probably agree.


45 posted on 11/21/2012 11:12:16 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: tiki

Only on whatever income it is generating. On the benficiary side, they need to pay taxes on disbursements to them, but structured correctly as I understand it, that can be really low.

You would set it up as some type of irrevocable common law trusts, naming as trustee a trusted 3rd party or such. The charter would have to be renewed every X amount of time, but from what I’ve read, Paul Revere and Sam Adams among others still have functioning trusts dating back to the nations founding.

I believe it was Rockefeller who said “Own nothing, control everything”. Elites manage to maintain their family legacies by keeping them in multiple trust structures.

I’m by no means knowledgeable on them in general, but I’m working on it...


46 posted on 11/23/2012 12:38:35 PM PST by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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